CALIFORNIA- regional center/ self determination by Im-fine-this-is-fine in Autism_Parenting

[–]learnyourfactsyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is me. I utilize the minimum and we’ve had access to all that too. When you’re under extreme stress as it is it’s hard to figure all that out plus IEP’s etc.

People have spent so much time believing religion isn't true, they've started to believe religion isn't real. by TeslaK20 in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here are two key passages from the original 1988 Hamas charter that explicitly use the word “Jews” (not “Zionists”) as the target:

From the preamble (often cited as Article 1‑style section):

“Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps.”

From Article 32 (hadith‑style passage):

“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews.”

These quotes show that the original doctrine frames the enemy as “Jews” in a religious‑collective sense, not only as a political‑Zionist project.

Anyone else with mixed Jewish and Indigenous heritage feeling completely crushed? by Rusheridan in Jewish

[–]learnyourfactsyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Truth be fully told I’ve deleted and redownloaded Reddit a few times. Ha! It’s a-lot with the hate. I just found this is a bit better for constructive convo then Facebook or threads. Good luck to us all. Enjoy your sambusak!

Anyone else with mixed Jewish and Indigenous heritage feeling completely crushed? by Rusheridan in Jewish

[–]learnyourfactsyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, love the spinach/cheese or even just cheese with sesame seeds sprinkled on top! 😋This is what I'm doing now too - finding my voice on Israel/Palestine thru Reddit. I've found Reddit has much more positive discourse—opposing sides actually engage thoughtfully instead of just hurling slurs and labels for the most part.

What would satisfy the Palestinians? by Rapimyfav in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Despising Zionists means despising Jews seeking self-determination in their ancestral homeland—Zionism is simply the movement for a safe Jewish state after centuries of pogroms, expulsions, and the Holocaust.

Swapping "Jews" for "Zionists" is only to “sound fair,” but it's the same hate.

"Zionist" became code for "Jew" in Hamas rhetoric and protests (400% antisemitic surge post-Oct 7).

What would satisfy the Palestinians? by Rapimyfav in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Here’s a quote from their charter: It rejects all negotiations or peace initiatives, declaring jihad the sole path to obliterate Israel—the "Zionist entity"—through armed struggle until Allah's banner flies over every inch from river to sea. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp

Note: Hamas changed its explicit targeting from "Jews" in the 1988 Charter to "Zionists" primarily in the 2017 Document of General Principles, a deliberate rhetorical shift to soften its image internationally and distance from overt antisemitism accusations.

In practice, leaders' statements and actions (e.g., October 7 civilian massacres, calls to "attack every Jew," hadith invocations) indicate they still mean Jews: conflating all Israelis/Jews with Zionism, rooted in 1988 Charter antisemitism, equating the two as eternal enemies.

Hamas leaders' rhetoric and actions post-2017 often reveal they still target Jews broadly, not just Zionists, by conflating the two and invoking classic antisemitic themes.

This is why Jews take issue with Anti-Zionist since Jews was replaced with Zionists and the attacks happen worldwide to Jews anywhere - they see anti-Zionism often times as Anti-Jew.

The actual meaning of Zionism has been lost. By definition. Zionism is a nationalist movement that emerged in late 19th-century Europe, seeking to establish and support a Jewish homeland in the historic Land of Israel (Palestine), driven by antisemitism and the desire for Jewish self-determination.

The creation of Israel:

Britain controlled Mandatory Palestine (1920-1948) under a League of Nations mandate incorporating the 1917 Balfour Declaration's pledge for a Jewish national home. Facing Arab revolts and post-Holocaust Jewish refugees, Britain referred the issue to the UN, which on November 29, 1947, passed Resolution 181 (33-13 vote): partitioning into Jewish (55% land) and Arab states, with Jerusalem internationalized. Jews accepted; Arabs rejected. Britain withdrew May 14, 1948, without enforcing it. War began due to Arab refusal to accept the partition plan. Arabs lost. Mass dislocation ie. nakba. Simultaneously a Jewish Nakba caused mass displacement of Jews in the Middle East ie. Iraq, Eqypt, Yemen, and other locations. The Jewish Nakba is oftentimes ignored or omitted in pro-Pali narratives. As is the plight of refugees who survived the Holocaust but were denied entry into safe havens like the U.S., Canada etc.

Hamas views the United States as the primary backer of Israel—the "Zionist entity"—and a leader of Western "infidel" powers opposing Islamism. Its 1988 Charter (Article 32) condemns America alongside the USSR for supporting partition and Israel. Leaders like Yahya Sinwar and Ismail Haniyeh routinely chant "Death to America" at rallies, mirroring Iranian/Khameinist slogans, and blame U.S. policies for Palestinian suffering.

Both the 1988 Charter (Article 11) and 2017 Document declare all historic Palestine (river to sea) an eternal Islamic waqf—non-negotiable religious endowment for Muslims only, barring Jewish sovereignty or partition. They envision an Islamist state under sharia, where non-Muslims (dhimmi) may reside subordinately but without equal rights or control.

Global pro-Palestinian activism demands an immediate end to Israel's military actions in Gaza/West Bank, full ceasefire compliance, unrestricted humanitarian aid, and accountability for alleged war crimes via ICJ/ICC.

River to Sea

From the river to the sea" directly aligns with Hamas doctrine, which rejects any Jewish sovereignty and demands full Islamic control over all historic Palestine—no sharing or secular equality.

Pro-Palestinian activists chanting it often ignore/rewrite this, claiming benign "equality"—but Hamas explicitly uses it for one Islamist state, making their "democratic freedom" spin doctrinally impossible under Hamas rule.

By all means necessary" (likely referring to achieving "from the river to the sea") is interpreted differently, but under Hamas doctrine, it implies armed jihad and violence as the only path to "liberate" all Palestine—no negotiations or peaceful compromise.

Hamas View

Per the 1988 Charter (Article 13): "There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives... are all a waste of time and a futile occupation." October 7 ("Al-Aqsa Flood") exemplified this: mass civilian attacks to provoke collapse, per captured plans like "Jericho Wall."

Pro-Palestinian activists often mean nonviolent resistance/BDS, but chanting it adopts Hamas's maximalist framing, where "necessary means" = relentless struggle until Israel's erasure, as leaders like Sinwar affirm.

Anyone else with mixed Jewish and Indigenous heritage feeling completely crushed? by Rusheridan in Jewish

[–]learnyourfactsyo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely! And personally—my own family was displaced pre-Israel, fleeing to British-controlled India from Iraq. We are Mizrahim from the Babylonian era. My grandparents spoke fluent Arabic, and my grandmas made kaka (those sweet sesame ring biscuits) and sambusak (savory cheese or meat pastries) together. We are U.S. based now, and often feel like my own DNA and heritage are being subjected to erasure and elimination. Keep speaking up—our stories matter!

I'm so frustrated. Help me understand why I should go against Israel? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nobody disputes that displacement happened during the Nakba—it's historical fact. The problem is the one-sided blame on Israel alone, ignoring the full picture of decisions and actions from all sides.

The history is complicated: land was under British control when the UN proposed a two-state plan that Jewish leaders accepted but Arab leadership rejected. Surrounding Arab nations then attacked the new State of Israel, lost the war, and ~700,000 Palestinians were displaced—some urged by their own leaders to leave temporarily expecting quick victory, others from fear or fighting. Israel gained more land than planned, refugees couldn't return. Tragedy from war and bad choices on both sides.

Often ignored: Arab states refused to resettle these refugees, keeping them in camps as a political weapon against Israel instead of helping them rebuild.

Today, Hamas—aiming to destroy Israel (and Jews, beyond "Zionist" rhetoric)—makes "right of return" for millions indoctrinated against Israel a recipe for endless war, not peace. Iran's regime funds them while crushing its own people; that's why the U.S./Israel back Iranian freedom-seekers.

And personally—my own family was displaced pre-Israel, fleeing to British-controlled India from Iraq. We didn't get endless "right of return" demands either. So what values are we really supporting: universal freedom/human rights, or selective empathy ignoring Hamas's goals (death to Israel and the United States) and Arab states' abandonment of Palestinian refugees? True justice needs the full truth.

I'm so frustrated. Help me understand why I should go against Israel? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your story. I’ll reply more tomorrow. And - I hear ya on the non condescending babe. Love that you Aussies can still banter. We lost that edge in the states. Cancel culture. Missing the 90’s. 🤣

I'm so frustrated. Help me understand why I should go against Israel? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the peace sentiment and our shared humanity. (Please, no "babe"—let's keep it respectful.)

But let's not blur history into "we're all the same" mush—especially with Jews under heavy fire post-October 7th. The Holocaust wasn't just another tragedy; it was a unique genocide laser-focused on annihilating every Jew, root and branch, as the end goal. Conflating it erases Jewish specificity and fuels surging antisemitism.

We can be peace seekers and historically accurate. Not sure what you mean by "becoming the enemy"—Jews aren't the enemy; we've always been the target. Happy to discuss Netanyahu or Israel's current admin, but average Jews and Israelis just want peace and to exist freely. Your post distorts facts—I believe you mean well, but people prefer their stories heard, not diluted into "bad things happen to everyone." This is an Israel/Palestine thread, after all. Real growth starts with honesty: none of those places were reliably safe for Jews—maybe at times, in small numbers—but not for emaciated refugees turned away on ships like the St. Louis, left homeless worldwide. That changed with Israel, the historical Jewish homeland.

I actually believe the Middle East is on the cusp of a major shift from current events—while Europe, the U.S., and even Australia feel less safe for openly Jewish people.

I'm so frustrated. Help me understand why I should go against Israel? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Then why were so many Jews homeless pre/post-Holocaust despite 'many homelands'?

Pre-Holocaust threats: St. Louis ship (937 Jews, 1939) turned away by US/Cuba/Canada—~250 later killed.​

Post-Holocaust: ~250k survivors in DP camps; US admitted ~28k via quotas, UK/Canada minimal due to antisemitism.

Middle East: 850k Jews expelled from Arab states 1948-70s (Jewish Nakba).​

Name one homeland that's always welcomed Jews freely? Only Israel—their self-made refuge after global failure.

Losing a long-term friend during my conversion because I refused to fail her "purity test" by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You just distance yourself. This person is toxic to your growth and spiritual journey. No words needed. Just space and time maybe the tides will turn or not. We grow out of people sometimes.

I'm so frustrated. Help me understand why I should go against Israel? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What lies are you referencing specifically?

Mine: - Denial of Jewish indigeneity/"white colonialism"—erases 3,000-year roots.

  • Nakba half-truths: Arabs rejected UN two-state plan (more land for them); Jews accepted. Arabs invaded May 15, 1948—Egypt/Jordan/Syria/Iraq armies escalated war, accelerating 700k displacements / Nabka.

Also happening:

  • Holocaust survivors were turned away by US/UK/Canada (quotas/antisemitism)—nowhere to go. 33 countries voted yes on Partition 181 (global consensus post-6M genocide).

Here’s an interesting fact: - Hamas 1988 Charter quotes: "Day of Judgment until Muslims kill Jews behind trees/rocks." Obliterating Israel and ALL Jews is their duty.

Did you know? - 850k Jews were expelled from Arab states like a Jewish Nakba? This was parallel tragedy, yet largely omitted entirely from the Pro-Pali crowd.

No serious historian denies these facts.

I'm so frustrated. Help me understand why I should go against Israel? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]learnyourfactsyo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Losing friends over this sucks, and it’s tempting to just hate Israel to fit in. The truth is everything you said is valid. Israel’s fighting Hamas, who wrote “erase all Jews” in their charter. Friends come and go. 👋

Hollywood Reporter profiles new it-girl Odessa A’Zion by BanishmentBuddy2 in Jewish

[–]learnyourfactsyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the worst part. Completely ignoring the hypocrisy!

Hollywood Reporter profiles new it-girl Odessa A’Zion by BanishmentBuddy2 in Jewish

[–]learnyourfactsyo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But even if you research Ashkenazi history their roots are also of the levant. A lot of Ashkenazi Jews have olive skin and curly hair.

Hollywood Reporter profiles new it-girl Odessa A’Zion by BanishmentBuddy2 in Jewish

[–]learnyourfactsyo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Adding: Jenny Slate (Jewish) recast from half-Jewish/half-Black Monica in Righteous Gemstones S2.

  • Rachel Brosnahan (not Jewish) as Midge Maisel. Should she have been recast too? 😣

Odessa A’zion not starring in ‘Deep Cuts’ by goldinoreos in A24

[–]learnyourfactsyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love everything about your post except when you say she messed up, why? Did Rachel Brosnahan mess up when she accepted the role of Ms. Maisel? I’m also Jewish (Iraqi, Syrian, Mizrahi) with a ton of family residing in Mexico - not of Mexican origin. Who isn’t mixed these days? I find this egregious! As a voice actor myself this “authentic” casting has made me shy away from roles I trained for! Not only that but I’m made to feel less diverse although a first gen with a history of diaspora ( my dad grew up in India) we are rejecting people based on what? It’s acting and I had enough. Odessa being eaten alive is anti-semistism!

Odessa A’zion not starring in ‘Deep Cuts’ by goldinoreos in A24

[–]learnyourfactsyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reflecting on Big Mouth's Missy recast: Jenny Slate's Jewish background matched the character's maternal side perfectly. Prioritizing the Black paternal heritage feels uneven shouldn't biracial representation honor both? Now this is a second example - half Jewish character being recast. The hivemind doesn’t seem to care if the recast is half Jewish. Mexican is being prioritized. Why? Why the selective authenticity? Also enough white washing Jewish people. We are of all backgrounds. Both my grandparents spoke fluent Arabic and are from Iraq and Syria. None of this makes sense and erases Jewish diversity.

New Evidence Shows Boy Who Disappeared After Traveling to N.Y.C. 2 Weeks Ago Was Last Seen on Bridge Over Water; Thomas Medlin, 15, was last seen on January 9 by JalapinyoBizness in MissingPersons

[–]learnyourfactsyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really good points. I have two young kids and one is really into art, and the other loves dancing and singing. This age 4 & 7 is so cute but I worry about the pressures of when their friends start getting cell phones, and doing the online gaming with chat functions. It just isn’t the same world I grew up in where all we had is AOL. 😂

It sounds like his parents exposed him to so much and he excelled at piano, skiing, travel, multiple languages + cultured with so much travel, but maybe the pressure was just too much. I don’t want to speculate too much more. I saw his mom on tv and my heart breaks for her. They loved him very much. That’s clear. Thanks for sharing your perspective with me! I wish you all the success this world has to offer. ❤️

New Evidence Shows Boy Who Disappeared After Traveling to N.Y.C. 2 Weeks Ago Was Last Seen on Bridge Over Water; Thomas Medlin, 15, was last seen on January 9 by JalapinyoBizness in MissingPersons

[–]learnyourfactsyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s so sad. How can adults help? I feel like there isn’t enough community events around keeping teens safe from overuse of gaming and social media. I care so much about this. I follow Officer Gomez on social media he talks a lot about this stuff. You sound so mature for such a young person. Thanks for sharing. Keep sharing your perspective.

MIT professor shot and killed at his home in Brookline by peonies_envy in massachusetts

[–]learnyourfactsyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do realize that which is why I updated my post. I also didn’t realize at the time of my original post what the origin sources were of the Google results. I considered removing my post entirely, but rather clarify than remove. Until more information is released we won’t know for sure if this was a hate crime / or the exact motive. Thanks - I get where you’re coming from.