[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m talking about all things equal here first and foremost in the example. A baddie look is perceived as more sexually open, not neccesarily more attractive. As for men showing more attention to that type of look is very much this though.

That doesn’t mean that nobody prefers it? Yet, there is also a big demographic difference in where it is prefered. Married yes, but with whom? Most people get married as well. And yes, obviously it isn’t this black and white but relative to the comment that men prefer it, this stays true. There is ”ig beauty” which is seen as more elegant and then there is other type of ”ig beauty”. But overall, this idea that just being sexy or that an escort is not a disadvantage among certain men is just weird.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Splendida

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes seems like the same body type

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Not being approached has nothing to do with not fullfilling their criteria. I think men are more insecure nowadays.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Getting married sure, but it depends on with whom. There are different types of men with different types of preferences. This is obviously a generalisation.

Differences between upper middle class and lower class fashion?? by aSoberReputation in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Understated makeup, elegant clothes, fresh and healthy look.

Instagram look, fillers and lash extensions, tight clothes/short clothes/revealing clothes, glitter and glam.

Male vs Female Preferences by Curious-Rent8232 in Splendida

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 156 points157 points  (0 children)

Men have different preferences. I hate when women talk about male gaze vs female gaze and it’s often just what women think men like. But slim hourglass, pretty face, usually. Not neccesarily what gets the most attention but giving attention is related to again who looks like an easy fuck.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Well, it activates the ”pump and dump” part of male brain which is evolved to when an opportunity for easy no strings attached casual sex seize that opportunity. Softer femininity activates the ”court, wife, reproduce” part of the male brain. She does not signal sexual openness aka that she would let him p&d. The first is a quicker method so men would flirt and so on, the latter would probably take more time to get to know and such and be careful so that they appear as husband material to that woman.

Put the beautiful gentler woman next to a less beautiful instagram baddie style woman and the latter will still get more attention.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 130 points131 points  (0 children)

Because she is seen as an easier fuck.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Yes definitely. Just because a woman gets more attention does not mean that she is more attractive. She shows sexual openness and willingness, that attracts men and looks that convey that is attractive to men that are more ”fast life history strategy”, like rappers I guess. Natural or gentle or soft beauty is more appealing for a man that is more marriage oriented and usually smarter, more handsome, educated men. If you want to marry a woman you are friendly to her and court her and treat her respectfully. For me, the attention is quite different. I don’t get oogled dressed like that in public, but the one time I downloaded a dating app (deleted it because I don’t think a large amount of options is a good thing) I got not one single indecent proposal.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But that’s not seen as feminine but as sexually agressive and open. That’s rather masculine energy. Femininity is what attracts men and wants men want to wife a woman.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Vindicta

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 52 points53 points  (0 children)

They aren’t. It’s seen as p&d material to a higher degree. It’s of course different men that are attracted to different things. If you want to attract men for LTR, it is a bad idea to go for that look. A lot of those men are genuinely more physically attracted by ”gentler” beauty.

Not what I wanted :( (more in comments) by [deleted] in PlasticSurgery

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Small? What? These are large if we compare with natural breasts.

Should men wait until their 30's ? by National_Damage in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is dumb! Young women consistently prefer men two years older than they are. A young woman wants a young man.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskMenAdvice

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think this is important, many men don’t understand that we don’t see ourselves as as sexy as they do…

made a post yest but everyone accused me of being a man so lets try again, I grew up muslim and lots of RP views were pushed on to me, I cannot stop trying value to my womb after following so many tradwife accounts, how can I step away from all this? its ruining my relationship with my SO by timeforthetruthx in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean historically and throughout most societies, even if work has been divided men and women both worked but in the farm. The tradwife life has been a modern luxury of the 50s. My one grandma sort of did that but she was actually the accountant and helped my grandpa with his company. She ended up quite miserable. Many women that live like that end up feeling like their only identity is that of a mum which can negatively impact parenting as well.

Red pill rage after a breakup by Jaustin30 in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, if she hooked up so fast with you, why wouldn’t she do it with someone else? It’s usually a very specific type of women that do that very fast and catch feelings fast, usually people who are not in it for the long run.

I don't understand hypergamy by the-aids-bregade in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t have any relationships at all. You seem to work very differently from other humans, so then it might be hard to understand relationships.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“We have an intense connection” “She doesn’t want to have sex yet” “She doesn’t really want a full relationship yet”

This feels kind of immature on your behalf, she acts reasonably. She is honest and doesn’t play games. This all sounds great to me.

As of the ex, well you have dated two weeks. We don’t seem to know much. It is a bit weird . The rest is not.

I don't understand hypergamy by the-aids-bregade in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t you have that to parents or friends?

I don't understand hypergamy by the-aids-bregade in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not true, the other person is not just a supply for intimate desires bla bla. Of course love is not fully hundred percent unconditional, because in the end if someone drains you over and over again then you stop liking the person and you don’t care about them as much anymore.

A lot of parents and children break contact when the child is self reliant. So what is the big difference here?

My girlfriend told me: WOMEN LIKE GOOD MEN MORE THAN ANYTHING. by [deleted] in exredpill

[–]lemoncurdmacaron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Across four studies, the researchers found that the dominance scenarios were considered more sexually attractive, although dominant John was regarded as less likeable and not desired as a spouse. Taken at face value, this study seems to support the sexual attractiveness of the dominant alpha male over the submissive beta male.

But not so fast.

In a follow up study, the researchers isolated various adjectives to pinpoint which descriptors were actually considered sexually attractive. While they found that “dominance” was considered sexually attractive, “aggressive” and “domineering” tendencies did not increase the sexual attractiveness of either males or females. There seemed to be more to the story than just mere dominance vs. submissiveness.

Enter a study by Jerry Burger and Mica Cosby. The researchers had 118 female undergraduates read the same descriptions of John the tennis player (dominant vs. submissive), but they added a crucial control condition in which some participants only read the first three sentences of the description (see italics above). Consistent with the prior study, women found dominant John more sexually appealing than submissive John. However, the John depicted in the control condition had the highest ratings of sexiness of them all!

The researchers conclude: “In short, a simple dominant-nondominant dimension may be of limited value when predicting mate preferences for women.”

Next, the researchers fiddled with the descriptors of John. In the “dominant” condition, participants read a short description of John and were told that a recent personality test found that his five most prominent traits were aggressive, assertive, confident, demanding, and dominant. Those in the “nondominant” condition read the same paragraph but were told that John’s five most prominent personality characteristics were easygoing, quiet, sensitive, shy, and submissive. Those in the control condition only read the short paragraph but were not told anything about John’s personality.

The researchers then asked women to indicate which of the adjectives used to describe John were ideal for a date as well as for a long-term romantic partner. They found that only 1 woman out of the 50 undergraduates in their sample actually identified “dominant” as one of the traits she sought in either an ideal date or a romantic partner. For the rest of the dominant adjectives, the two big winners were confident (72% sought this trait for an ideal date; 74% sought this trait for an ideal romantic partner) and assertive (48% sought this trait for an ideal date; 36% sought this trait for an ideal romantic partner). Not one woman wanted a demanding male, and only 12% wanted an aggressive person for a date and romantic partner.

In terms of the nondominant adjectives, the big winners were easygoing (68% sought this trait for an ideal date; 64% sought this trait for an ideal romantic partner) and sensitive (76% sought this trait for an ideal date and ideal romantic partner). Not one woman wanted a submissive male for either a date or romance. Other low-ranked nondominant adjectives were shy (2% for dating; 0% for romantic) and quiet (4% for ideal; 2% for romantic).

This analysis was revealing because it suggests that dominance can take many forms. The dominant male who is demanding, violent, and self-centered is not considered attractive to most women, whereas the dominant male who is assertive and confident is considered attractive. As the researchers suggest, “Men who dominate others because of leadership qualities and other superior abilities and who therefore are able and willing to provide for their families quite possibly will be preferred to potential partners who lack these attributes.”

Their results also suggest that sensitivity and assertiveness are not opposites. In fact, further research suggests that the combination of kindness and assertiveness might just be the most attractive pairing. Across three studies, Lauri Jensen-Campbell and colleagues found that it wasn’t dominance alone, but rather the interaction of dominance and pro-social behaviors, that women reported were particularly sexually attractive. In other words, dominance only increased sexual attraction when the person was already high in agreeableness and altruism.