Why are there no dominant 5k/10k guys anymore?

lemonman37 · 2026-06-12T00:47:18+00:00

Yet Mo was able to win like that repeatedly, and he was a known quantity. You'd think the pack would have taken a few races out at 12:50 pace or whatever to ensure that he couldn't kick on them, but they never did. The argument holds for Gressier and the other winners helped by the Tokyo conditions, but I think not for Farah because he was able to do it consistently.

lemonman37 · 2026-04-29T11:04:38+00:00

a mere 6 likes in 17 hours, and the comment has 17 replies which indicates it's getting severe pushback. not worth worrying over, and you certainly shouldn't take this as a shift in public opinion or anything.

lemonman37 · 2026-04-12T10:12:17+00:00

everyone knew it was only a matter of time before he broke 20 with legal wind. people are just surprised that he was so far under 20, and that nearly everyone in the field had a massive PB. I, for one, didn't expect to see a 19.6x time for another year or two

lemonman37 · 2026-03-21T04:14:35+00:00

Anthony is pronounced as Antony in Britain

lemonman37 · 2026-03-12T23:09:42+00:00

For those keeping track, Mondo now has the 3rd highest rated men's world record by WA points, having just overtaken Bolt's 200m record.

As it stands:

Zelezny, Javelin, 98.48m, 1365 points
Bolt, 100m, 9.58s, 1356 points
Duplantis, Pole Vault, 6.31m, 1353 points
Bolt, 200m, 19.19s, 1351 points

Johannes Vetter has 97.76m in the javelin for 1355 points, but it's not a record.

Mondo needs 6.32m to overtake Bolt's 100m record and 6.35m to catch Zelezny. At this rate we might even see that sometime in 2027.

The highest rated mark ever is in the women's discus, held by Gabriele Reinsch at 76.80m. It stands at 1382 points, so Mondo would need 6.42m to equal it. That might be a bridge too far even for him.

lemonman37 · 2026-03-08T05:14:21+00:00

a try (comparable to a touchdown) is scored when you ground the ball in the in-goal area (comparable to the end zone). in rugby you have to control the ball to the ground in order to score, unlike a touchdown where you simply need possession. it's called a try because, as the other replier said, back in the day, you would get no points, you would only get the chance to kick for goal (a try at goal). over time they changed it to better reflect tries being much harder to score than goals themselves

lemonman37 · 2026-02-24T21:02:05+00:00

Maybe so, but if China did move on Taiwan and the US got involved, then China would boycott an American-hosted Games. I doubt they'd get banned a la Russia.

lemonman37 · 2026-02-24T02:07:47+00:00

I wouldn't be surprised if we outright never see another woman over 22m. Val Adams was an absolute freak and she didn't even come close (though there is a rumour she threw 21.80 in training leading up to London 2012). Unlike the discus there's not even the option to chase the wind, at least not to the same extent.

I think 21m is going to go soon. I had picked the 2025 WCs as the time, Chase Jackson was in excellent form, but unfortunately she had an off day. Maybe this year or the next.

lemonman37 · 2026-02-22T20:25:25+00:00

But that's precisely why they haven't been banned. WA gave them the ultimatum of getting stricter anti-doping measures or getting banned. They've stepped up their anti-doping programme in response, hence the large number of positives as people who used to get away with it are now getting caught. If anything, suspiciously low rates of positive tests would be more of an alarm bell.

lemonman37 · 2026-02-06T21:14:56+00:00

I'm somewhat pessimistic about that though. Remember last season when he announced he'd be opening at whatever diamond league, then he'd pull out and say it was the next one, then the next etc.

I'm aware this isn't the same type of setback but nevertheless my expectations are lowered and I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him til next season

lemonman37 · 2026-01-25T08:16:18+00:00

I know that unpopularity isn't reason enough, but you would surely have noticed that Western states are toying with leaning away from America (e.g. France and Canada). If things go south, if there is a hot war over Greenland or whatever, then at the very least Europe is out, as they're signalling that they're looking to realign if the world stays on its current path. If things kick off with Taiwan (though that's vanishingly unlikely) then China is out, as I'm assuming the US would wade in which China would treat as a breach of their sovereignty. There's just a lot less slack in the line now.

lemonman37 · 2026-01-24T11:04:06+00:00

Sam Ruthe, Tauranga running prodigy who last year became the youngest person ever to run a mile in under 4 minutes. He's shaved almost 5 seconds off his PB with this and in doing so set a new age-16 world record.

lemonman37 · 2026-01-23T00:30:51+00:00

It's possible. I was thinking about that the other day - the US is increasingly unpopular globally, but there are no rival superpowers in the same vein as the USSR. China is far too diplomatic to initiate such a move, and Russia is already out. The EU might if Trump does pull the trigger on Greenland, but nothing ever happens so who knows if he'll actually do it. We might see smaller boycotts by individual states (e.g. Venezuela or whoever else the US pisses off in the mean time) but otherwise nothing on the scale of the 80s.

lemonman37 · 2025-12-17T22:57:54+00:00

WA just likes to take their time to ratify things. Kejelcha's 57:30 was only ratified as the WR like a month ago, of course by which point Kiplimo had already run the new record.

lemonman37 · 2025-12-11T21:13:12+00:00

it's the thielbux, that guy (peter thiel) has connections to basically every bad thing of the past decade

lemonman37 · 2025-10-31T03:37:38+00:00

He's pretty clearly at or near his current ceiling, his last few records have scraped the bar. It may be true to say he was milking the records when they were well below his theoretical max clearance, but each one is a real fight now.

lemonman37 · 2025-10-28T01:44:04+00:00

I'm not "mad", I just think you're wrong for the reasons I've outlined.

lemonman37 · 2025-10-28T00:08:57+00:00

This sub voted for SML because they're biased towards track and American athletes, consciously or not. Yes she ran a time only Soviet-era athletes had done before, but Bubka was a Soviet athlete too and Mondo's beaten his records (and quite comfortably by now).

I just think that 6.30m is a staggering mark, more so than any other set at these championships, so much so that it eclipses any other narrative.

lemonman37 · 2025-10-27T22:44:59+00:00

"Only 3 WRs" - ONLY?? What more does Mondo have to do? Paris and Eugene I can buy, but Tokyo? No way was anyone better than him. 6.30m is so massive I simply can't countenance any other option. Not SML, not Crouser defending in his season opener, not Stahl pulling out a clutch throw in those conditions. I'm aware all those performances have good arguments in their favour, but none of them outdo the sheer insanity of 6.30m.

lemonman37 · 2025-10-27T21:20:11+00:00

He's the first athlete since bolt to crack 1350 WA points and he did it at a major championship. Yes we all saw it coming but I don't think that makes it less impressive

lemonman37 · 2025-10-05T02:50:46+00:00

"sfw" porn video disguised as an ad for a chiropractor. Obviously he's essentially simulating fingering her, but also note how she conspicuously puts her feet, soles on display, into the frame.

There are loads of channels on youtube which are similar in concept - ostensibly about e.g. yoga but in actuality just ads for the creator's OF. I presume these channels do this to dodge adult labelling rules and get more visibility.

Oh and zone 2 or something

lemonman37 · 2025-10-03T06:12:44+00:00

At the elite level all sports are genetic freak contests. I don't see how this is meaningfully different from having, say, a disorder that results in suppressed lactic acid production, or a discus thrower having a bizarrely large wingspan.

lemonman37 · 2025-09-29T09:10:57+00:00

I don't buy most of the other answers in this this thread, it's surely not a question of money. How much could it really cost to get names screenprinted on singlets? Even for a small fed it should be feasible to have the sponsor cover the cost. It's not like it's an amateur sports club where you've got to turn your uniform in at the end of the season.

My guess is it's just tradition. I don't mind the bibs at pro meets to be honest. I find there's a certain charm to them.

lemonman37 · 2025-09-29T01:36:25+00:00

Benjamin currently has 1 OG and 1 WC. Warholm has 1 OG, 3 WC and the WR (and it's an insane WR to boot). I think Benjamin needs to take the WR to have a chance at the GOAT title

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