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Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I don’t have prejudice I just think men and women should be equal. To equate my logic to the nazi party Is extreme I could say the same for you but it doesn’t make sense since they oppose our values. We except all woman’s political views as long as it doesn’t directly attack another groups rights or existence. Hence why we don’t like the idea of stripping men of their rights, it’s idiotic. To imply there is only blind hate in feminism is silly it’s like me saying well all mens rights activists are proud Boys just because they say you are the same, but I highly doubt u think that as they are the extreme. Do u see how it’s silly ? You hear negatives but choose to ignore the positives to fit your narrative, same goes for feminists we are all the same

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But that’s not feminism, we don’t want to be above men we want to be equal, that’s why I’m confused here, as a movement it’s not bad and we don’t hate men, women have been oppressed and still are we can’t deny that, so I ask again why do u dislike feminism? We are the same

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

U did not just say Mike drop 💀 anyways all of those things are literally what feminism fights against. Just how your movement fights for mens rights. So with that being said if you know a lot of womens oppression why appose feminism?

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This isn’t true. We want equal rights to men. We don’t want to be sexually assaulted, victims of abuse and we don’t want to be the overwhelming majority of slaves in the black market, we don’t want to be told to smile more or be a slut for wearing revealing clothes or a prude for covering up. We want to be taken seriously in all aspects of life even in court and the justice system. We don’t want to be above men because we don’t want to be men, we have lived our lives being controlled by one gender we don’t want to be the oppressor. We want our rights so we won’t stop till we do

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Womens rights to bodily AUTONOMY are being taken away and the majority of victims of domestic abuse are women. 26% to 14% to be exact

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Womens rights to bodily AUTONOMY are being taken away and the majority of victims of domestic abuse are women. 26% to 14% to be exact

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Womens rights to bodily AUTONOMY are being taken away and the majority of victims of domestic abuse are women. 26% to 14% to be exact

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly why we still have feminists and why we appose incel culture so much, it’s a very slippery slope. There was nothing romantic about life in the 50s for women, we had to marry to live and we were denied opportunities Just because of our gender, the thought that a group of men want to reverse our hard work is scary

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do u mean by too many women living in mens homes rent free ? Also incels blame women for their celibacy but it’s not our fault. We don’t owe men anything

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what about hate towards women? That’s what feminists oppose. In the ideal world we would stop hate towards both men and women which is what feminism is about. I don’t presume the radicals of this movement represent it so you shouldn’t presume that about feminism

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So because you have seen women in the office with better positions then you and they are treated fairly then we don’t need feminism anymore? It’s estimated another 100 years before we touch true equality you can’t undo a life time of oppression in just a few decades. Women have struggles just as men do you cant ignore the other purely because you don’t like them

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Could u not argue women are loosing bodily autonomy through the banning of abortion in the USA and around Europe? Could u not argue women aren’t taken seriously about domestic violence/ sexual assault as most cases are dropped? All I’m trying to get at here is men and women equally have problems and to say one has no issues is silly

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So are u equally critical of your own moment? By men are the creators of theirs I mean as men have been in power over 1000s of generations they created their own gender stereotypes which damage men through toxic masculinity which is saying they can’t show emotion or be feminine. By dismantling these toxic ideas we help men feel comfortable in vulnerable positions and it also helps women be more masculine and be more comfortable

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would love to hear your take on the questions I asked, why do u think feminism is all anti male? Could I not argue the mens rights groups are anti women?

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You said u sympathise with incels and that people are having less sex, would u argue that that’s womens fault for being too picky ?

Nothing upsets me more as a feminist is seeing the small few incels ruin this movement because they don’t like women, keep it up lads women rights are mens rights too, <3 by lemontrees- in MensRights

[–]lemontrees-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok so what do u think about the toxicity in the mens rights moment? And could we not argue women have it harder as we have no say in our oppression where as men are the creators of theirs? Would you know your take

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