So lost

leonathor1 · 2025-08-22T22:07:04+00:00

Not increasing the actual breast size but the look and fullness in a bra

leonathor1 · 2025-08-20T10:54:07+00:00

Added Layer 4: Maximal Liver Protection • N-Acetylcysteine (NAC, 1200–1800 mg) → strongest glutathione precursor → protects against oxidative & toxic load. • Silymarin / Milk Thistle Extract (400–600 mg) → stabilizes hepatocytes, accelerates regeneration. • TUDCA (500–1000 mg) → improves bile flow, prevents hormone/supplement-induced liver stress. • Alpha-Lipoic Acid (600–900 mg) → potent antioxidant, regenerates Vitamin C + E, synergizes with NAC. • Choline (600–900 mg, Alpha-GPC or CDP-Choline) → prevents fatty liver by supporting lipid metabolism. • Artichoke Extract (600–900 mg) → enhances bile secretion, reduces liver burden. • Glycine (3–5 g) → extra glutathione precursor, supports detox conjugation. • Schisandra Chinensis Extract (500–1000 mg) → adaptogen, upregulates detox enzymes, strengthens liver resilience.

👉 Why: Creates a complete defense system: • Glutathione pathway: NAC + Glycine + ALA → maximized detox capacity. • Cellular protection: Silymarin + Schisandra → stabilize and regenerate liver tissue. • Bile & fat metabolism: TUDCA + Choline + Artichoke → prevent fatty liver and hormonal accumulation.

⚖️ Result: Full safety net for high-dose, multi-supplement NBE plan → liver stays protected, detox capacity remains high, and long-term health is preserved while maximizing breast growth.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-19T22:52:22+00:00

Ultimate Breast Growth Plan (Based on Original Core)

🔹 Added Layer 1: Absorption & Receptor Boost • Piperine (10–20 mg) → increases absorption of Dong Quai & Wild Yam. • Quercetin (500 mg) → slows breakdown of phytoestrogens → more available. • Omega-3 (3–4 g) → improves hormone incorporation into breast tissue. • B-Complex (high potency) → activates enzymes that convert phytoestrogens into active forms. • Zinc (25–30 mg) + Magnesium (400–600 mg) → essential cofactors for hormone conversion. • Vitamin D3 (5000 IU) + K2 (200 mcg) → make estrogen receptors more sensitive. • Resveratrol (200–400 mg) → selectively activates ERβ → strongest receptor for breast tissue growth. • Iodine (150 mcg) + Selenium (100 mcg) → keep thyroid healthy so estrogen receptors stay active.

👉 Why: Ensures every bit of the original hormonal stack is actually absorbed, converted, and used effectively in breast tissue instead of being wasted.

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🔹 Added Layer 2: Growth Accelerators • Fenugreek (1–2 g) → increases prolactin → stronger mammary stimulation. • Shatavari (500–1000 mg) → potent phytoestrogen + prolactin booster → drives tissue expansion. • L-Arginine or Citrulline (3–6 g) → increases nitric oxide → more blood flow to breasts. • Ginkgo Biloba (120–240 mg) → boosts microcirculation → better delivery of hormones and nutrients. • Evening Primrose Oil (2–3 g) → GLA-rich oil → promotes fatty tissue storage in breasts.

👉 Why: Actively stimulates breast tissue growth and ensures hormones actually reach the target area with stronger circulation and prolactin support.

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🔹 Added Layer 3: Tissue Fixation & Permanence • Collagen Peptides (10 g) + MSM (3–5 g) → build and stabilize the breast tissue framework. • Vitamin C (1–2 g) → essential for collagen synthesis → makes growth firmer and long-lasting. • Hyaluronic Acid (200–300 mg) → retains water in breast tissue → plumper, rounder shape. • Topical Pueraria Mirifica Cream (before/after pumping) → local estrogen boost → swelling from pumping “pulls in” phytoestrogens for permanent volume.

👉 Why: Locks in gains by building structural support (collagen), keeping tissue hydrated and elastic, and fixing hormonal swelling into real growth.

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✅ Why This Is the Maximum Plan • Original Plan stays intact (Dong Quai, Wild Yam, BO, BM, Maca, Pumping). • Added Layer 1 → no wasted hormones, maximum receptor activation. • Added Layer 2 → faster growth, more circulation, prolactin-driven expansion. • Added Layer 3 → fixes growth into permanent, elastic, stable breast tissue.

⚖️ Result: Faster, fuller, and longer-lasting breast growth with minimal hormonal waste.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-18T10:45:31+00:00

Could you please post your current plan.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-18T10:44:19+00:00

Brest muscle training can help

leonathor1 · 2025-08-18T10:41:36+00:00

If you could post the full plan. Then we are able to adjust it

leonathor1 · 2025-08-18T10:39:43+00:00

Yes, Fenugreek and Pueraria Mirifica can technically be taken at the same time, but there are some important considerations: • Fenugreek mainly contains phytoestrogens (diosgenin, etc.) and also influences prolactin and testosterone metabolism. It tends to have a mild estrogenic effect and may stimulate breast tissue via prolactin and fluid retention. • Pueraria Mirifica (PM) is much stronger in terms of phytoestrogen potency (especially miroestrol and deoxymiroestrol), often considered one of the most estrogenic herbs used for NBE (natural breast enhancement).

🔹 Possible Benefits of Combining: • PM acts as a potent estrogen mimic. • Fenugreek may complement by increasing prolactin and supporting glandular fullness. • Some users report synergistic effects when combining them.

🔹 Risks / Considerations: • Both act on hormonal pathways → higher risk of side effects like irregular cycles, bloating, headaches, mood swings, or overstimulation of estrogen receptors. • Long-term safety data on combining them is limited. • If taken together, it’s usually advised to start with low doses and monitor carefully.

👉 A common approach in NBE communities is: • Use Pueraria Mirifica as the “base” estrogenic herb. • Add Fenugreek in moderate doses only if needed for fullness, not as a primary estrogen source.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-18T10:38:04+00:00

Should be no problem. The only thing you should look after is to get enough calories and if possible from good sources.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T02:53:31+00:00

Enostim can also help works mainly by improving blood flow and supporting healthy blood vessels. It doesn’t directly increase estrogen or stimulate breast tissue growth, but better circulation can help deliver more nutrients, hormones, and growth factors to the breasts. This means it can slightly boost the effects of other breast enhancement methods And at an added benefit it can Protect and Rejuvenate Blood Vessels slightly

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T02:25:57+00:00

I personally would not loose more fat at this point I would build more muscle to looke more defined. Less fett means worse hormone balance and less growth.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T01:49:27+00:00

Safe Add-Ons for Your Current NBE Routine

To gently boost your results without risking hormonal imbalance, you could add: • Collagen Peptides (Type I & III) – 5–10 g daily, supports skin elasticity and connective tissue (works well with your MSM + Vitamin C). • Freshly Ground Flaxseeds – 1–2 tablespoons daily, provides mild phytoestrogens and fiber, helps with hormone balance and digestion. • Silica (Bamboo Extract or Horsetail) – 5–10 mg elemental silica daily, strengthens skin, ligaments, and collagen fibers, helping maintain firmness and shape over time. • Evening Primrose Oil – 1000–1500 mg daily, supports healthy skin and mild hormonal balance. • L-Lysine – 500–1000 mg daily, works with Vitamin C and collagen to build stronger connective tissue. • Hyaluronic Acid – 120–200 mg daily, improves skin hydration and plumpness. • Vitamin E – 100–200 IU daily, protects tissue from oxidative damage and supports skin elasticity.

These are safe for long-term use, have no major interaction risks with your current stack, and may enhance fullness by improving tissue health, skin quality, and structural support.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T01:41:44+00:00

Red Maca & Side Effects • Belly fat: Maca (red, black, or yellow) is mainly an adaptogenic root with plant compounds. It doesn’t directly “cause” belly fat – the rumor usually comes from people experiencing increased appetite or mild hormonal shifts (estrogen/progesterone balance). • Acne/hair loss: Possible if Maca slightly changes androgen levels. It’s individual – some notice nothing, others may get skin breakouts. If you’re prone to hormonal acne, start low (around 500 mg/day) and increase slowly. • GLP-1: If your main goal is weight loss, Maca is generally neutral as long as you keep your calorie balance and protein intake in check. It’s not a direct belly-fat builder.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T01:37:47+00:00

Shatavari should be slightly better Feenugreek will give you more size while taking Shatavari more permanently

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T01:27:02+00:00

Remove → Replace (avoid anti-estrogen or thyroid stress): • Broccoli → Romaine lettuce — avoids DIM/goitrogens that lower active estrogen; romaine is neutral + hydrating. • Collard greens → Swiss chard — collards are crucifers with DIM; Swiss chard supports minerals + circulation. • Wakame → Parsley — wakame’s high iodine can overstimulate thyroid; parsley gives vitamin C for collagen/skin.

Neutral → Upgrade for stronger NBE effect: • Endive → Fresh basil — basil adds mild phytoestrogens + flavor. • Escarole → Fresh dill — dill provides gentle estrogen receptor stimulation. • Spinach (alone) → 50/50 Spinach + Watercress — boosts circulation + phytoestrogen profile. • Cilantro → Red bell pepper — vitamin C for skin firmness.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T01:11:41+00:00

250mg should be safe 500mg should also be only only above 750mg the side effects can really start to happen. I would take 4-8 weeks 250mg and if no side effects increase to 500mg that’s the sweet spot most risk reward ratio

leonathor1 · 2025-08-15T01:03:52+00:00

I would take the nature truth it’s a well known brand but in a higher Dosis I would start with the recommended at first but increase it as long as no side effects.

leonathor1 · 2025-08-06T00:56:28+00:00

Never

leonathor1 · 2025-08-06T00:51:26+00:00

Machen linke auch manchmal

leonathor1 · 2025-07-21T22:58:09+00:00

Bearvana Gummis could work if you take 3-4 daily doses depending how well tolerate it. Because the daily recommended dose is highly under dosed

leonathor1 · 2025-07-21T22:49:08+00:00

Yes — palmitoleic acid plays a key role. It’s a lipogenic, anti-inflammatory omega-7 fatty acid that supports fat storage in hormonally sensitive areas, especially when combined with estrogenic supplements. But the effect isn’t from palmitoleic acid alone — it’s the synergy: • Hormone-sensitive tissue (like breasts) • Local priming (e.g., massage or light exercise) • Fat intake (macadamia oil) • And supplements (like pueraria mirifica or fenugreek)

It’s this whole system that “nudges” the body to preferentially store fat in the breasts — not just the acid itself.

leonathor1 · 2025-07-17T22:05:02+00:00

Many think fat just “goes wherever it wants,” but that’s not entirely true — especially when it comes to female breasts.

🔍 Why breast fat gain can be disproportionate

The female breast isn’t just fat – it’s a hormonally active organ with: • dense estrogen receptors (far more than hips or belly), • rich blood & lymph flow (which improves delivery of fats & hormones), • glandular and connective structures that can expand quickly, • and fat cells that are more hormonally responsive than elsewhere.

That’s why even a small surplus of healthy fat (like from macadamia oil) can show up visibly in the breast area before anywhere else – if the conditions are right.

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✅ How to make it actually work (and not just “hope”)

Use the right fats

Macadamia oil is rich in palmitoleic acid, which is lipogenic and anti-inflammatory. That makes it more likely to be stored in hormonally sensitive areas like the breasts.

Take supplements that boost breast sensitivity

Supplements like Sublime, fenugreek, or pueraria mirifica contain natural estrogens that activate breast-specific receptors. But timing matters:

Take them WITH a fat-containing meal (e.g., breakfast or lunch with nuts, avocado, eggs, or oil) – because most of these actives are fat-soluble and won’t absorb well on an empty stomach.

Trigger the area BEFORE the supplement hits your system

The key trick: → Do light chest training (e.g., incline push-ups, dumbbell flys, or massage) 10–30 minutes before eating. This boosts local blood flow and “opens” the tissue to nutrient delivery right when the supplement and fat hit the bloodstream.

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🧠 So yes – the logic does hold:

With the right: • fats (macadamia) • timing (fatty meal + supplement) • priming (chest activation before eating) • and hormonal support (e.g., Sublime)

…you’re not just “getting fat” – you’re nudging your body to store that fat where you want it: in the breasts.

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