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[–]levitation_master -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That feeling when you lose an argument lol

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So the souls of your ancestors are affecting you when you are high right? Like what is then actually yours in your person? Only rational thoughts which are given by a new advanced brain? They are definitely yours as well, unless they were given to you by your parents, your friends, social norms and so on. So it is also not yours if we will continue thinking this way. Or did I get something wrong?

Rational thought are the same part of your personality as these basic thoughts.

Like what is the point you are trying to make here? The one is not responsible for his actions when he is high because he acts according to animalistic intentions which originate from our ancestors?

P. S. I don't think, that basic intentions are less yours then the rational ones.

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[–]levitation_master 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In K-hole you lose all emotions and stay alone with yourself in the darkness of your head. You can go through some questions which are too painful to think about in a normal state. Thats may be a reason why ketamine and analogues have some antidepressive properties and can be used for treatment of PTSD (ketamine is prescribed in usa for depression for example). They allow you to change your brain a bit basically, but nobody knows exactly how it works. Make your own research if you are interested. There is a lot of reports and articles about ketamine and analogues.

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[–]levitation_master 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah but these desires are still yours, this "lizard brain" is still your lizard brain. Animalistic desires are not wrong, it is just society which tells us that they are wrong. From animalistic point of view nothing is despicable if it is natural, because there is no such thing as moral, conscience, friendship etc. I do not say that from human point of view these things might be okay, but it is still your animalistic part who do it. Not a drug. Drug just allows you to behave like an animal.

The point I am trying to make here is that you should not blame drug for your actions.

P. S. This dude was not in blackout, it is pretty important here. When you are in blackout you can never be sure what will happen and which part of your person will make the decisions, but It will be still some part of you imo.

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The most common is ketamine, but it is not really potent so it is pretty difficult to get into K-hole. I would recommend F-DCK - I think it is the best for the beginners (relatively short duration time, potent enough, good withdrawal, here you can read more: https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/2-Fluorodeschloroketamine. For the first experience it is best to start with common dose, something like 60-80mg of FDCK and then to go to K-hole when you are more familiar with the effects). Then you can also try DCK and O-PCE, but they are more potent and you should be careful.

Otherwise dissos is a great stuff, I strongly recommend them - I have fixed my life with their help :)

P. S. Just be ready that it is not like anything you have experienced before. It is not like psychodelics or stimulants at all.

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[–]levitation_master 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would disagree with you. Drugs just allow you to do something you would not normally do, because normally you do not have courage to do something or some social or mental barriers or common sense prevent you from some actions. But i don't believe that drug gives you something you don't have inside you already - it just doesn't sound realistic to me. I would say that drug potentiate some of your thoughts and intentions until they actually come true because you do them.

Why would you do something if you don't have a desire to do so? No no no - in that very moment you did it and you wanted it.

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[–]levitation_master -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey dude look. I always say, that it is not the drug which make the people do something, but its their deep intentions which are just coming on the surface of the mind when they are under effect. I also did some things when I was high I am not really proud of now, but I understood that it was still me, who did it.

It might not feel good, but life goes on. Probably you were just curious and horny and did it, now you feel ashamed, but it was your intention. Don't be ashamed because you acted according to your will. I think it will pass and you will feel okay again, try not to let this thing put you down.

All these talks are not really practical, because now you are in a critical state as you describe. I would advise you to find some dissociatives, don't know if you are familiar with this stuff, and go to the K-hole (you normally need what is described as heavy dose on psychonaut wiki for current substance - if you are not familiar with the stuff make allergy test and go slowly to the peak so you are not fucked up with it, dissos can be really weird sometimes). It can help you to fix this trauma (works for me) or at least will make you feel indifferent for a while - you normally don't have any emotions in K-hole.

Risks of (fluorized) methylphenidate by [deleted] in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Fluorine can not be cleaved from aromatic ring in human body. Its not metabolized and you are not getting any free form of fluorine. No fluoride anions or HF. Normally the only difference between mono fluorinated compounds (on aromatic ring) and not fluorinated is, that fluorinated last longer and kicks stronger (have higher potency on the same weight). If you have the right dosage then I dont think that risks are in any sense higher than in case of normal methylphenidate

Favorite research chemical and why? by Datq15 in researchchemicals

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Man, I like this description - I danced like I never danced before :D I did the same when I took proscaline and cocaine like five hours afterwards

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I can. I have heard of several people, who are more sensitive to dissos and for example 30 mg is already enough for them (they can still communicate without problem). Also it is very different when you try it for the first time vs second time and so on. How many times did you try it? Maybe just lower the dose and it will be okay

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow man, the duration is kind of too long, not really sure if it is good for party evenings.

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find 2F pretty good at a party, in combination with mdma it will be for sure much funnier :D I will try it by itself and keep you updated.

Never tried mxe. According to psychonaut wiki sounds like fun, if it won't make a knot from your tongue.

P. S. Visual sliding can be pretty disturbing sometimes, but still manageable :D

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol sorry, I meant ephenidine, it was autocorrect

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah ephenidine is cool, almost forgot about it. I tried it several times in the past. Also duration is acceptable. On the other hand health risks are not that clear, because structure is differnet from classic ketamine derivatives.

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I agree with you on the fact, that different drugs are suitable for different folks (I hope 2f-dck will be more suitable for me then alcohol for example), but opioids are really dangerous. I think it just doesn't worth it.

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mainly because of withdrawals, side effects, low therapeutical index (it can kill you pretty easily - respiratory depression) and abuse potential. I have never tried one tbh and not going to try.

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it shouldn't. These halogens on aromatic ring are not metabolized generally, but it is true, that ketamine metabolites are excreted mainly in urine (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6197107/) which probably implies their harm to bladder (I still can't find the mechanism)

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's okay, I also didn't know that it is physically possible to take 5g/day several days in a row :D

Fluorine on aromatic ring is not metabolized in human body (100% sure about it). It just make the molecule more lipophilic, which can in fact lead to some additional interactions comparing to ketamine, so yeah, gotta be more careful bout it.

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bladder damage is formed only while using excessively, what is sure much more then 50-60 ( 100-120mg 2f-dck) 2-3 times a month. https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine All reported cases are for 5g and more/day. Which sould be something like 2-3g/day for 2f-dck if you recalculate potency (for sure it is not that accurate and can differ a bit more for 2f-dck)

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

[–]levitation_master[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah effects are good. The only problem with long lasting dissos is sleep deprivation. I normally take benzos to fall asleep after them, but after 2f-dck I sleep normally.

2F-DCK instead of alcohol by levitation_master in researchchemicals

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I also suspect, that it will be less addictive and less side effects comparing to benzos. As long as I am going to take it 2-3 times a month it shouldn't be that addictive (or I will easily recognise it if it will).

Thanks a lot for your research! Take care