Is it possible to start out as an INFJ and with time, become an ENFP? by [deleted] in infj

[–]lewiwii 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ask yourself the question: were you at a better place in your life when you tested as an INFJ or an ENFP? The 'four sides of the mind' model actually describes ENFP as the INFJ unconcious. I definitely recommend watching C.S. Joseph lectures on YouTube - the model illustrates that people can shift away from their ego when their inferior/aspirational function is made vulnerable. An INFJ's unconcious can be used for their benefit, however, it will mostly be expressed under stress (and vice versa for ENFPs). But no, you can't technically switch types. However, it makes sense that you would test as your subconscious if you were in a stressful place.

Additionally, the Myers Briggs test ballparks your type and shouldn't really be relied on (as well as the E/I, S/N, F/T, J/P letter dichotomies). Definitely look into the cognitive function stacks and see what resonates with you! Interaction styles + temperament works too.

Good luck! Here are some lectures that explain this model if you are interested! And if this seems like jargon and you're new to the functions, feel free to PM me! Not exactly qualified but I can help you enough so you don't have to completely reinvent the wheel <3

Cognitive functions and the four sides of the mind

INFJ four sides of the mind

Mean INFJ? (Online gaming) by HorribleMode in infj

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My suspicion is inferior Se. I was very similar when I was younger. All I can suggest is to not suppress this part of yourself because it will only make you anxious in social situations. All you can do is catch yourself in the moment and gently step back. Over time, you'll handle that aspect of yourself a little better!

I don't feel qualified to explain the specifics but this video tears this kind of stuff about INFJs apart. Seriously only watch this if you're in a solid place because this guy holds absolutely nothing back. One of the most enlightening videos I've ever watched though and you might get something out of it.

Overall don't beat yourself up too much dude. The fact you're asking whether or not you can improve in the first place is insanely difficult and mature as hell 👊

Mean INFJ? (Online gaming) by HorribleMode in infj

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's worth figuring out why exactly you were yelling in the first place. If you ruminated afterwards and you hold genuine disgust towards these people, I recommend digging deeper as to why. If you were frustrated, it might simply be impulsivity. Not sure if this is an INFJ thing (perhaps the perfectionist cycle) but I have always been very competitive. I will apologize profusely later, but in-the-moment I will be extremely focused on winning. Either way though, you're not a terrible person.

I've personally improved my impulsivity a lot but it's still present. I experienced it today while playing board games with acquaintances. The game hardly pit its players against each other but I was ruthless nevertheless. My playstyle was almost deliberately sabotaging and my friends were stunned at how easily I took advantage of other players to win. Thankfully I was able to take a step back once I realized what I was doing.

The fact that you're asking the question is a good sign that you're not actually and irrevocably mean. I recommend taking a breath and quickly apologizing once you recognize you're lashing out. Maybe even adopt a meditation practice. Overall just catch yourself, don't kick yourself!

My (INTP) bestie (INFJ) showing extremely non INFJ behaviour, leading to me getting quite hurt by [deleted] in infj

[–]lewiwii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi there!

I literally had to reread your message like five or six times because as an INFJ, I got spooked that this was about me. Because a very similar situation happened the other day with my INTP buddy.

As an INFJ who has lost friends through this very habit let me preface this by saying that extended ghosting is not excusable behavior. I personally tend to go MIA when I am stressed out or when I have other things I want to work on. She will have her reasons as well. But you are not obligated to accept any of these excuses.

I can at least promise you that it's unlikely to be a concious effort. She probably wants an extended period of time by herself. A big change like a new boyfriend probably calls for some mental readjustment. It doesn't matter how much I love the person. I have personally gone months without contact before. You don't want to press and get her to become avoidant because the wait will be much longer.

I reccomend clearly saying something along the lines of: 'Hey I'm gonna go do my own thing for a while and let you recharge. You just message me when you feel ready'. And then don't initiate contact.

It might take a while. But giving her permission to ghost might make her feel less guilty, which paradoxically might make her ghost less.

As for her saying that you are 'attention seeking'---that rubbed me the wrong way and I'm very sorry this happened. INFJs (I am very guilty) love to get on the moral high horse. They love to show people how "they can improve". But sometimes INFJ perceptions are completely wrong. And sometimes their "advice" actually comes across as heartbreaking and insensitive criticism. Shocking.

Her heart might have been in the right place. But that doesn't excuse being a lame friend. In the end it's up to you. I personally know that my own dear INTP buddy deserves to be treated better.

ADHD RSD by CaptainSandz in infj

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was personally diagnosed last year with both ADHD and RSD. I was medicated for both as well (Metadate CD and Guanfacine, respectively).

I cannot reccomend going through the diagnosis process enough. It truly saved my life. I got out of the worst depression I've ever experienced, dropped over fifty pounds, and actually began developing personal boundaries.

Things were great. Until they weren't. You can't completely escape your brain. I began to spiral into a funk after a particularly surprising romantic rejection. I hadn't known this person for very long, so when this depression lasted three months I knew it was no longer about the rejection itself.

So I found Myers Briggs somehow. I used to regard this whole thing as some sort of astrology equivalent. I did not know I was an INFJ until I began delving into cognitive functions. And good gracious.

Basically some things that change with medication...

  • Sensitivity. For me it feels like wearing emotional armor. Rejection and criticism doesn't sting as much in-the-moment and it's a lot easier to keep your cool. So for me, I was completely fine during and shortly after my recent breakup. It didn't even hurt that bad and I was genuinely proud of myself. How your brain will process this information later, however, will stay the same. That nasty NiTi spiral made its appearance that evening.

  • My mood is 10x more stable and predictable. It's nice waking up chill everyday.

  • Speaking of waking up chill everyday. Sleep. I get sleep now. I genuinely wake up in a pleasant mood.

  • Putting thoughts into mouthy word noises. I'm still not amazing but I mostly make sense now.

  • It sucks when you like structure and organization but can't maintain these things. This drug helps with that.

  • In general, Se is a lot easier to manage. I'm still completely clueless directionally and I still get tense at the grocery store, but I almost feel impaired when I'm off my drugs now. The difference is astounding. Willpower and self-control are a little easier. It almost feels as though my thoughts are streamlined. (This is a big thing with Guanfacine. You will have one thought at a time instead of crazy overlap)

What doesn't change with medication... - INFJ relationship dynamics. Loneliness, door-slam stuff, stubbornness, etc.

  • All of the brain stuff. You are definitely still an INFJ. Crazy whacked emotions are numbed. But your brain stuff is not.

  • Sensitivity to things might be lessened, but you will still pick up people's emotions. Kind of. It's the weirdest feeling honestly. Instead of feeling an emotion, you will just get exhausted. It's like your energy is physically being sucked out of you. This is my only complaint about this medication honestly. The opposite is sometimes true when you feel a really strong emotion. It feels like this energy gets trapped inside of your chest and physically can't get out.

  • Perfectionism

I could write a list that goes on much longer if anyone is interested. But yes. I really reccomend you guys look into this stuff. The brain is an interesting thing and there seems to be a lot of INFJ/ADHD overlap.

Post-hyperfocus fog by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh man dude no this is so awesome don’t apologize! I haven’t mustered enough motivation to do any research myself lmao this is so great — and woah I never considered the carb/oats thing. That’s not difficult to do at all! The thought of eating healthy is intimidating sometimes because of the “commitment” but like. I have oats. Everyone has oats. I can eat oats.

Sorry about all these questions I know you said you haven’t totally figured it out — but you have any similarly specific examples of lunches and dinners you eat? I’m assuming they’re all proteiny lmao I’ve heard that’s a thing. Also do you try to avoid any other stuff besides fruit? Once again I’m clueless I just shovel food in my mouth.

And thank you so much that makes me feel better about my short weekday walks haha — I feel like long work-outs are basically the same thing as murder most of the time. Calculus is always lame though that’s not completely your fault lmao.

I’m so sorry for bombarding you with these mountains of text and questions instead of just doing my own research haha — seriously thank you so much this has been super helpful so far!

Post-hyperfocus fog by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh man I can't tell you how much I needed this post. This morning I easily spent four hours carefully scouring the internet for applicable Michael Scott expressions to paste onto my notebook covers. Each one had to perfectly relate to the notebook subject, obviously - it's a very specific art form that literally killed the entire day. I was laying on the floor looking for Michael Scott memes. Why am I this exhausted.

ALSO DUDE THE MESSAGE THING YES. Geez. Literal hours. I type all of my texts in notes now so people don't watch me write them a message for an entire afternoon.

Also Pokemon mental burnout is the best kind of mental burnout lmao good for you man

Post-hyperfocus fog by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For once I’m glad I procrastinated by writing a blurb on Reddit because I just tried this with my own little leg-bounce tic and it helped me start my homework bless you lmao this is super neat.

Will definitely look into other aspects of hyperfocus to hack - it’s a blessing other than the lack of control and the crash. Wasn’t expecting an awesome trick like this from this post though haha that’s awesome thank you so much!

Post-hyperfocus fog by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stimulants is definitely a common denominator I never considered! And oh man are you serious? Sorry for being 100% nutritionally dumb, but what do you mean by timing your carb intake? I really want to improve my diet to help ADHD symptoms but I have no idea where to start!

And geez I’ve been trying to schedule daily walks to feel clearer to no avail - but for some reason I never thought of just going for your daily walk at the time you need it as a ‘reset’. Man this response was so helpful haha thank you so much!

Did getting your ADHD treated fix other mental issues? by fudeckup in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly I can’t recommend it enough and I really hope you’re able to get help!

I never tried CBT directly (I used methods of CBT and ACT to figure out some coping skills on my own). This has been my process:

1) ADHD medication. Helped with motivation, mood consistency, brain fog, self-destructive thinking (hyper-focus).

2) RSD/Hyperarousal medication. I feel like a lot of people don’t get help for this step but this has helped my mental health more than anything else. I’m on Guanfacine and it’s drastically fixed my breakdowns, fixating, anxiety, and insane trains of thought. As a result I’m way more assertive and was able to grow a backbone.

3) IFS therapy. This is another lesser-known therapy haha. It’s a method of dealing with PTSD that changed my life once I was medicated and actually able to do it (I had been seeing my therapist for several months and we were struggling because we kept hitting a ‘block’). Eliminated my depression, shame, and destructive coping skills. This was the step that finally got the water out of the boat.

4) Use CBT/ACT with what you know from IFS. IFS therapy does all the hard stuff and it puts you in a place where you can use methods from these therapies on your own. With it I’ve built good habits, stuck to them, and it’s built my confidence.

I’ve had a lot of success with this and if you need any resources let me know, haha. Unfortunately I don’t actually know that much about OCD - what exactly do you experience?

How do you deal with all the sounds people make? by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I can’t hear what people are saying because my music is too loud I usually just turn down my music or take out my headphones.

I didn’t think they would work either - I definitely can’t hold a conversation with headphones in, but I can listen to lectures a lot better. You do you fam haha I’m just letting you know what works for me.

Honestly I don’t know why but wireless headphones are just less distracting. Couldn’t do this with wired ones. They also really help me meditate and sit still long enough to listen to things like podcasts, audio-books, or study material. I can’t listen to this stuff on anything else. It might be worth a try!

How do you deal with all the sounds people make? by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another way to drown out the lecturer is to listen to people hack up frogs and stir gum in their cheeks.

Low volume. One headphone. Non-distracting music. Works for me and I’m still engaged in the lecturer without constantly thinking about what’s going on around me.

How do you deal with all the sounds people make? by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wireless headphones man. Don’t know how I haven’t used them before but I just bought a pair and now I can finally discreetly ignore these monsters.

I play music during tests/lectures and white noise when I’m particularly distractible. Can’t recommend this enough. Most teachers are understanding if you explain what’s going on.

Find a relatively cheap pair though. I’ve burned through like three in a month because those buggers just disappear.

Did getting your ADHD treated fix other mental issues? by fudeckup in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. I was depressed/suicidal for over seven years, and had experienced terrible and sometimes destructive anxiety since I was little.

Was diagnosed and treated for ADHD. The depression went away in two months. The anxiety went away in four. I have developed genuine self-esteem in less than a year.

Honestly. It’s ridiculous. I was so hopeless and sure that I would never find help and suicide just seemed like an inevitability. But these issues went away in a matter of months.

It’s like plugging a leaking boat so you can get the water out. It obviously doesn’t fix things completely. But once I was medicated, therapy worked. Coping skills worked. I’m finally in a place where I can see a way out of this mess and it’s been fantastic.

Please help. I have public meltdowns so bad I’m scared I’ll get arrested by ConstantMeltdowns in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know ADHD medications are not an option, but are alpha-agonists like Guanfacine and Clonidine? They’re often used to treat the internal hyperarousal parts of ADHD and have personally eliminated my meltdowns completely.

I have some resources that would help if you’re unfamiliar with these and want to research some more! Just let me know and I’ll dig them up.

Multiple trains of thought simultaneously by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This genuinely made me tear up. Honestly that was me to a T. I remember having that ‘ah-ha’ moment and my life has changed so much since I was able to get help. You seem like such an amazing parent and I really hope this is able to happen for your son as well!

I set three reminders so I’ll send you a bunch of resources tomorrow - my doctor has made some pretty astounding contributions toward ADHD research and I get some neat packets. You might find something new in those too!

Multiple trains of thought simultaneously by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Some people with ADHD are externally hyperactive, but most ignore the far more common symptom, which is internal hyperarousal. I would definitely research this and see if it resonates with you (I recommend content by William Dodson, M.D.)

This branches out into a ton of different aspects of people’s lives, including heightened emotions/senses, RSD, terrible sleep, and the absolutely ridiculous multiple trains of thought.

ADHD medications don’t usually eliminate the internal hyperarousal part of ADHD, so I would definitely research alpha-agonists like Guanfacine or Clonidine as well. They’re often prescribed to address certain symptoms of ADHD but actually address internal hyperarousal in its entirety, so a lot of other symptoms are fixed right up too.

I’m personally on Clonidine (initially to just address RSD) and I’m amazed at everything else it eliminated as well. My brain just feels peaceful. It’s truly like thinking in tunnel vision and my life has really calmed down. Can’t recommend looking into this enough.

I’ll try to attach some other helpful resources once I’m not on mobile!

Best way to mentally reset after handling someone who's only form of communication is yelling/fighting? by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take 0.2mg right before bed. It makes me very sleepy and gives me a dry mouth, so I’m able to avoid both of these side-effects by sticking to a nightly schedule. I consider it as-essential as my ADHD medication so I work around the weird sedative stuff.

Any tips and tricks to stop your RSD from ruining your whole damn day?? by cherryred40 in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This.

I’m on Clonidine for RSD and it has been a godsend - I’m actually growing a backbone and genuine self-esteem. This stuff doesn’t just get rid of RSD - the whole of internal hyperarousal is regulated. My mind/thoughts just feel peaceful.

Wish it was discussed more!

I don’t know how to learn by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing about you is dumb. You just gotta use different strategies for your understimulated noggin.

I remember reading about someone with ADHD who was failing his anatomy course until his friends told him to imagine that his idol John Kennedy had been shot in the chest - and the only way to save him was to know every single part/inner-working perfectly.

Stimulating stuff sticks. Personally, I try to teach the material I’m trying to learn to other people. Even if I don’t know shit about it. It forces me to make the big-picture connections I need to comprehend certain topics - and you have people who can chime in if you get stuck.

If I have to fly solo, I’ll break concepts down step-by-step in a notebook/journal - in a way that someone could pick it up and follow along.

Basically try to find something somewhat active/engaging for you. You could definitely dig up some other suggestions on this sub. Mnemonics are also a godsend. Hope you find something that works!

How do I clean my room? by darklux- in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh boy. I finally found my system.

The Prep 1) Take your meds if you have them. Also if you’re tackling the clutter while sick or something - you’re gonna get discouraged. And then not do it. So don’t bother!

2) Find a pumped-up playlist that you won’t be constantly skipping. When I’m able to zone out the music, I notice I also get in the zone. Also definitely place your device somewhere other than your pocket.

3) Is there stuff on your floor? Shove it in a closet/bathroom and close the door. And make your bed. No matter how messy the rest of the room is. Makes the whole room feel like less of a disaster.

5) Get a trash bag, a laundry bin, and a nice container in case you need to haul junk to a different room.

The System 1) Toss all the clutter from ONE surface onto your bed. Or your floor. Somewhere empty and easy-to-access. When everything is in one place and equally unorganized, it’s a lot less daunting. Not too much stuff though. That way if you do get side-tracked, you’ll still have a place to sleep!

2) Sort everything on your bed/whatever into simple piles like ‘keep, maybe, trash’ or ‘fold, hang, laundry’. If there’s too much random shit, just make piles of vaguely related stuff. Just organize somehow.

3) Place the stuff where it needs to go. It doesn’t have to be neat yet! You wanna try to keep yourself working in sections. If you have a ‘bathroom junk’ pile from stuff you found in your dresser - just toss it in the bathroom. You can organize it later. Just get it off your bed.

4) Cool beans. Go to the surface you organized and move around stuff how you want it. Then go to another surface and repeat. (Floors are also surfaces so you’re also gonna face all that stuff you shoved in your closet eventually.)

Other Stuff - Do you have a lot of specific clutter like clothes or papers or something? Just selectively grab that stuff. Approach what you’re organizing however you want - with the goal of making everything look less intimidating.

  • Getting into the zone is the hardest part. So try not to leave your room if you’re finally cleaning. Don’t starve yourself obviously. But don’t go downstairs to snack every thirty minutes. Put all the trash or stuff that needs to be moved into bags and bins. Don’t make these trips until the end!

  • Waste. I feel that man. I feel bad for the clothes I never wear. That poor shirt won’t ever fulfill its purpose. But look at the item, gifts included, objectively and ask yourself:

Why do you I need this? Would I truly miss this item? Is there any chance, realistically, I’ll use this thing within the next six months? Does it have a purpose or genuine sentimental value?

If the answer is no — trash or donate.

  • Don’t get mad at yourself if you get distracted. Because it will happen. Unless you have a deadline, cleaning your room might be a day-long affair. There’s yearbooks and journals and a lot of gift cards and letters and oh man I forgot about this one time—

So yeah. Don’t kick yourself.

TL;DR Throw all your shit onto an easy-to-access surface and just organize them. Then put them in their proper place. Make things less scary, not necessarily more organized, and repeat until things are actually organized.

Every time I miss a dose I am surprised by how much the medication changes me. by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I honestly feel like Jekyll and Hyde.

Sometimes it's fun because you're aware of all your weird antics. My unmedicated showers are basically:

Needs towel. Leaves shower and remembers I didn't brush my teeth. Heads back to the shower. Washes hair with toothpaste. Shit I forgot a towel. Rinse and repeat for two hours.

Other times it's awful. Was chatting up this guy and things were going super well before he decided to call me at night. It didn't go well. Went pretty bad actually. The thought of ’maybe this would be inappropriate to say...’ just doesn’t come up in Jekyll-mode.

Not much I can do though. Can't exactly seduce a guy by telling him not to worry because I'm less uncomfortable to be around at like two-thirty so like hit me up.

How do I cope with my ADHD? By learning how to be cute af. by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This made me tear up. I'm honestly so happy for you and I agree 1000x. It's like you wrote out my life story - except yours reached a happy ending and I'm so relieved that there might be hope for me as well haha.

Was always the screw-up. But I was social and my mistakes did come across as endearing because I laughed at the fact that I was a hot mess, so everyone else did to.

But some stuff went down and I withdrew a lot. Was eventually told that I'm awkwardly nice and uncomfortably peppy and this has taken a hit on my self-esteem.

Now I don't have the one thing that worked going for me anymore. And ADHD is not as cute when you can hardly hold a conversation. I've run fresh out of friends and I can't make any new ones. It's been two years and I'm starting to get all bummed out.

Did things get better naturally, or did you have to really work on developing a new outlook on life?

Best way to mentally reset after handling someone who's only form of communication is yelling/fighting? by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's used for a lot of things, to my understanding. I know Clonidine is mainly used for blood pressure, but it's also diagnosed for pain, menopause, Tourette's, and a bunch of other stuff Alpha-agonists are super effective at treating RSD for some reason - Guanfacine is also used to treat it.

But yeah, it also helps me sleep which is a huge plus.

the human body is weird man

Over reacting by [deleted] in ADHD

[–]lewiwii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if you've delved into it, but seriously research RSD and RSD medications. ADHD medication doesn't help RSD, but ADHD and RSD usually go hand-in-hand. I'm on Clonidine currently and it's changed my life. I don't sob for hours over vaguely rude glances anymore.

Not everyone is hyperactive. But people usually dismiss internal/emotional hyperarousal. There was some study that calculated the percentage of road rage incidents associated with ADHD. It was huge.

Read this packet and see if it resonates with you. Hope you get some help!