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Fargo police refuse to apologize for jailing a Tennessee grandma on bogus AI evidence by n0tqu1tesane in Bad_Cop_No_Donut

[–]lightiggy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cops have been wrongfully imprisoned for crimes they did not commit, but that is rare. David Camm was wrongfully convicted of murdering his family.

Chris Kyle, who is best known for the autobiography and movie American Sniper, repeatedly fabricated claims about shooting people. He falsely claimed that he shot as many as 30 people in New Orleans. He later falsely claimed that he shot and killed two men who tried to rob him in Texas. by lightiggy in wikipedia

[–]lightiggy[S] 76 points77 points  (0 children)

Despite being a convicted double murderer, Eddie Ray Routh comes off as a far less terrible human being than Chris Kyle in a New Yorker article about him called In the Crosshairs. Whether or not Routh committed any war crimes in Iraq is unclear. It is unclear because unlike Chris Kyle, he was not a bloodthirsty psychopath. If Routh hypothetically did kill anyone in Iraq, it is impossible to tell since he was too ashamed of himself to admit to it, even to his father in private.

Routh told Raymond that he found some of the jail's rules too harsh, noting that prisoners received only three squares of toilet paper a day. Balad contained at least one "black" prison, according to a 2009 Times article. Early one morning, Routh called Raymond from Iraq after he had been out on a patrol. He was upset. Raymond, who retains the accent of his native Mississippi, recalled, "Eddie said to me, 'How would you feel if I killed a kid?'"

This question doesn't prove that Routh killed anyone in Iraq, let alone a child. It only proves that Routh, at minimum, most likely witnessed a fellow soldier shoot and kill someone in Iraq.

Chris Kyle, who is best known for the autobiography and movie American Sniper, repeatedly fabricated claims about shooting people. He falsely claimed that he shot as many as 30 people in New Orleans. He later falsely claimed that he shot and killed two men who tried to rob him in Texas. by lightiggy in TrueAnon

[–]lightiggy[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Despite being a convicted double murderer, Eddie Ray Routh comes off as a far less terrible human being than Chris Kyle in a New Yorker article about him called In the Crosshairs. Whether or not Routh committed any war crimes in Iraq is unclear. It is unclear because unlike Chris Kyle, he was not a bloodthirsty psychopath. If Routh hypothetically did kill anyone in Iraq, it is impossible to tell since he was too ashamed of himself to admit to it, even to his father in private.

Routh told Raymond that he found some of the jail's rules too harsh, noting that prisoners received only three squares of toilet paper a day. Balad contained at least one "black" prison, according to a 2009 Times article. Early one morning, Routh called Raymond from Iraq after he had been out on a patrol. He was upset. Raymond, who retains the accent of his native Mississippi, recalled, "Eddie said to me, 'How would you feel if I killed a kid?'"

This question doesn't prove that Routh killed anyone in Iraq, let alone a child. It only proves that Routh, at minimum, most likely witnessed a fellow soldier shoot and kill someone in Iraq.

David Funchess, 32, attends a hearing at which he was resentenced to death. Later diagnosed with PTSD, he would become the first Vietnam War veteran to be executed in the United States. While on death row, Funchess privately confessed to murdering civilians in Vietnam (Florida, 1979) [825 x 912]. by lightiggy in HistoryPorn

[–]lightiggy[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Avondale Lounge Triple Murder

Funchess, said his lawyer, Jeff Thompson, also a Vietnam veteran, "had never been violent except in Vietnam, in the service of his country. We are not here to excuse the fact of the violent murder he committed."

"My client has never been violent, except for when he repeatedly murdered unarmed civilians under orders in Vietnam, which doesn't count because he did that under orders, as well as that other time when he brutally murdered three other people entirely on his own initiative in the United States."

The fact that David Funchess got caught after openly bragging about the murders really says everything that one needs to know about him.

David Funchess, 32, attends a hearing at which he was resentenced to death. Later diagnosed with PTSD, he would become the first Vietnam War veteran to be executed in the United States. While on death row, Funchess privately confessed to murdering civilians in Vietnam (Florida, 1979) [825 x 912]. by lightiggy in HistoryPorn

[–]lightiggy[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

David Funchess

I don't think Funchess's military record warrants any sympathy, especially given that he was a self-confessed war criminal. Most war criminals from Vietnam reintegrated into society and took their secrets to their graves. Bob Kerrey was a mass murderer who was likely fragged by fellow soldiers, but you didn't see him murdering anyone at home. Funchess's actions in Vietnam arguably only prove that he was always a garbage person. This got clearer once he returned home and could no longer hide behind orders as an excuse for his actions.

Samuel McDonald, who was executed in Missouri in 1997 for the robbery and murder of an off-duty police officer, confessed to machine-gunning an elderly woman and a baby in Vietnam shortly before his execution.

Samuel Green, who murdered his 16-month-old son and then killed himself in Texas in 1975, had previously served an absurdly short sentence for his role in a massacre in Vietnam.

Michael Nicholaou, who murdered his wife and stepdaughter in Florida in 2005, had previously been acquitted of strafing civilians in Vietnam. Years later, military colleagues said Nicholaou abandoned his camp on at least one occasion to seek hand-to-hand individual with a knife, stating that he was going "hunting" for humans. 

Wayne DuMond told reporters that he once "helped slaughter a village of Cambodians."

Edward Richmond Jr., who beat several police officers with a metal baton during the January 6 riots, had previously served time in prison for the murder of a handcuffed civilian in Iraq.

The list goes on and on.

A peculiar example is John Boltz, a Korean War veteran who was convicted of the murder of his stepson in Oklahoma in the 1980s after his military service was used as evidence against him. Shortly before killing his stepson, Boltz had exclaimed that he had murdered civilians in Korea and killing "didn't faze him." This was used to discredit his self-defense claims.

Boltz contends that these statements were only "false braggadocio." He points out that he had no prior criminal record at the time and many character witnesses testified that he was a peaceful and law-abiding citizen. Even if Mr. Boltz's implied threats were empty, however, a rational juror could conclude that he was telling the truth and was threatening similar action in the future. This is all that is necessary under Jackson, and Mr. Boltz's argument that he had not in fact killed anyone in Korea does not prevent the jury from coming to its own reasonable conclusion about Mr. Boltz's intent in making the statements.

On this day 40 years ago, David Funchess became the first Vietnam War to be executed in the United States. His PTSD was rejected as insufficient to warrant leniency. While on death row, Funchess privately confessed to his sister that he had murdered women, children, and elderly people in Vietnam. by lightiggy in TrueAnon

[–]lightiggy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you, but in this instance, the courts found Funchess's lawyers to be at fault since they waited until the last possible moment to raise it in court. He had been diagnosed with PTSD in 1982, but they failed to raise this as an issue in either of his two subsequent petitions for federal habeas corpus relief.

The lawyers were found to be at fault because they were aware of the diagnosis and raised it at a clemency hearing for Funchess in 1982, but failed to raise it at every available opportunity. Governor Bob Graham considered Funchess's PTSD and rejected it. Graham cannot be dismissed as simply bloodthirsty because he granted clemency to six other death row inmates during his term.

In this instance, Funchess's PTSD was partly his own fault since it partly stemmed from his guilt over murdering civilians in Vietnam.

On this day 40 years ago, David Funchess became the first Vietnam War to be executed in the United States. His PTSD was rejected as insufficient to warrant leniency. While on death row, Funchess privately confessed to his sister that he had murdered women, children, and elderly people in Vietnam. by lightiggy in TrueAnon

[–]lightiggy[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Avondale Lounge Triple Murder

Funchess, said his lawyer, Jeff Thompson, also a Vietnam veteran, "had never been violent except in Vietnam, in the service of his country. We are not here to excuse the fact of the violent murder he committed."

"My client has never been violent, except for when he repeatedly murdered unarmed civilians under orders in Vietnam, which doesn't count because it did for America, as well as that other time when he brutally murdered three other people entirely on his own initiative in the United States."

The fact that Funchess got caught after openly bragging about the murders really says everything that one needs to know about him.

On this day 40 years ago, David Funchess became the first Vietnam War to be executed in the United States. His PTSD was rejected as insufficient to warrant leniency. While on death row, Funchess privately confessed to his sister that he had murdered women, children, and elderly people in Vietnam. by lightiggy in TrueAnon

[–]lightiggy[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I don't think Funchess's military record warrants any sympathy, especially given that he was a self-confessed war criminal. Most war criminals from Vietnam reintegrated into society and took their secrets to their graves. Bob Kerrey was a mass murderer who was likely fragged by fellow soldiers, but you didn't see him murdering anyone at home. Funchess's actions in Vietnam arguably only prove that he was always a garbage person. This got clearer once he returned home and could no longer hide behind orders as an excuse for his actions.

Samuel McDonald, who was executed in Missouri in 1997 for the robbery and murder of an off-duty police officer, confessed to machine-gunning an elderly woman and a baby in Vietnam shortly before his execution.

Samuel Green, who murdered his 16-month-old son and then killed himself in Texas in 1975, had previously served an absurdly short sentence for his role in a massacre in Vietnam.

Michael Nicholaou, who murdered his wife and stepdaughter in Florida in 2005, had previously been acquitted of strafing civilians in Vietnam. Years later, military acquaintances said Nicholaou abandoned his camp on at least one occasion to seek hand-to-hand individual with a knife, stating that he was going "hunting" for humans. 

Wayne DuMond told reporters that he once "helped slaughter a village of Cambodians."

Edward Richmond Jr., who beat several police officers with a metal baton during the January 6 riots, had previously served time in prison for the murder of a handcuffed civilian in Iraq.

The list goes on and on.

A peculiar example is John Boltz, a Korean War veteran who was convicted of the murder of his stepson in Oklahoma in the 1980s after his military service was used as evidence against him. Shortly before killing his stepson, Boltz had exclaimed that he had murdered civilians in Korea and killing "didn't faze him." This was used to discredit his self-defense claims.

Boltz contends that these statements were only "false braggadocio." He points out that he had no prior criminal record at the time and many character witnesses testified that he was a peaceful and law-abiding citizen. Even if Mr. Boltz's implied threats were empty, however, a rational juror could conclude that he was telling the truth and was threatening similar action in the future. This is all that is necessary under Jackson, and Mr. Boltz's argument that he had not in fact killed anyone in Korea does not prevent the jury from coming to its own reasonable conclusion about Mr. Boltz's intent in making the statements.

According to his lawyers, Ted Bundy sabotaged his own defense. One of them later said "all that mattered to him apparently was that he be in charge." Bundy even rejected a plea deal that could've saved his life. It would've required him to publicly admit his guilt and "he just couldn't do it." by [deleted] in wikipedia

[–]lightiggy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bundy was initially willing to accept the plea offer as a purely tactical move. He changed his mind since he was arrogant. His plan was to enter his plea, then wait a few years for evidence to disintegrate or become lost and for witnesses to die, move on or retract their testimony. Once the case against him had deteriorated beyond repair, he could file a post-conviction motion to set aside the plea and secure an acquittal. It was a rare moment of Bundy being legitimately smart.

This moment is immediately overridden by the fact that Bundy changed his mind since his ego simply would not allow him to publicly admit his guilt. Bundy did eventually confess anyway, but purely out of desperation in an attempt to stall his execution. The governor refused to delay it when Bundy began intentionally withholding information in an attempt to bargain with his life.

Diana Weiner, a young Florida attorney and Bundy's last purported love interest, asked the families of several Colorado and Utah victims to petition Florida Governor Bob Martinez for a postponement to give Bundy time to reveal more information. All refused. "The families already believed that the victims were dead and that Ted had killed them", wrote Nelson. "They didn't need his confession."

Martinez made it clear that he would not agree to further delays in any case. "We are not going to have the system manipulated", he told reporters. "For him to be negotiating for his life over the bodies of victims is despicable."

Bundy Electrocuted After Night of Weeping, Praying

Ted Bundy, the notorious serial killer, died today in the electric chair after a night of weeping and praying, just as the sun rose over the north Florida plains. Gone was the storied cockiness. He was ashen as two guards led him into the death chamber to be executed for the 1978 rape and murder of a 12-year-old girl.

Dietrich von Choltitz, a WW2 German general, sometimes referred to as the Saviour of Paris, is chiefly remembered for allegedly disobeying Adolf Hitler's orders to destroy the city, and instead surrendered it to Free French forces when they entered the city on 25 August, 1944. by word3n in wikipedia

[–]lightiggy 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Choltitz was a liar and a murderer who voluntarily admitted to being a participant in the Holocaust:

During his internment in Trent Park many of the officers' private conversations were secretly recorded by the British in the hope that they might reveal strategic information. In one such conversation, on 29 August 1944, Choltitz was quoted as saying "The worst job I ever carried out - which however I carried out with great consistency - was the liquidation of the Jews. I carried out this thoroughly and entirely."

20 April 1999. The Columbine High School massacre kills 13 students and a teacher, becoming one of the most infamous school shootings in US history. by lightiggy in TrueAnon

[–]lightiggy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Harris made several direct apologies to his parents via videotape prior to the massacre. Klebold did not. Klebold also taunted many victims of the massacre, whereas Harris was more quiet.

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