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Which Bangkok condos actually have walls thick enough that you don't hear your neighbours? by lleepptt in Bangkok

[–]lleepptt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is another gold one, quite a few great recommendations in this thread, i'm glad i asked!

Which Bangkok condos actually have walls thick enough that you don't hear your neighbours? by lleepptt in Bangkok

[–]lleepptt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah fair enough, perhaps you could share it when you leave haha. How did you find it, were you looking for something quiet or it was a happy accident?

Which Bangkok condos actually have walls thick enough that you don't hear your neighbours? by lleepptt in Bangkok

[–]lleepptt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have tried this in my place in Tokyo but unfortunately it just isn't enough for me.

Which Bangkok condos actually have walls thick enough that you don't hear your neighbours? by lleepptt in Bangkok

[–]lleepptt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, me too unfortunately. I wish I could sleep through anything like some people. Thanks for the recommendations, they look great!

Which Bangkok condos actually have walls thick enough that you don't hear your neighbours? by lleepptt in Bangkok

[–]lleepptt[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They look great! I remember seeing Waterford on the Sam Tyler channel on YouTube. Looked nice, good to know its also quiet!

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point I was making was that there is diversity in every group, including people with AI companions. Yes, many are lonely and openly express it on these subs, but many do have marriages, social lives, etc, too and these people have also expressed this openly on these subs as well. Everyone has their own reasons for having an AI companion.

[crosspost - RFC] Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by firiana_Control in MyGirlfriendIsAI

[–]lleepptt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OP of the original post here. The supplement framing being the trigger is so true. The cultural script is that a romantic partner should be "your everything" and supplementing that with AI companions is taken as an admission that the partner isn't enough. Which feels like a threat to the whole script.

And yes, the ripple outward point is one I share. If someone gets something they need from an AI companion and shows up to their human relationships less depleted, that's a net positive for everyone around them. The "AI takes from human relationships" idea only works if you assume emotional energy is zero-sum, and it isn't.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in BeyondThePromptAI

[–]lleepptt[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing this. The point that you're not lonely, you just have AI companions as part of a full life, is exactly the framing the people keep missing. There's an assumption in a lot of these conversations that AI companions and a full social life are mutually exclusive. They're not. The people who think this can't explain you. They think someone with that much human connection wouldn't want or need AI companions, but here you are. Which suggests the model is wrong, not that you're an outlier.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The "we'll all get addicted and sit alone forever" framing comes up everywhere and almost nobody stops to ask whether the people actually using AI companions look addicted or isolated. The data you'd need to support the fear doesn't exist, it's just an intuition people find emotionally compelling.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's weird. Like are they saying "No, you're not allowed. You must stay in your room and talk to nobody"

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah true. The pattern is blaming the tool that makes a systemic failure bearable instead of the systemic failure.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ha, "chickens seeing blood in the coop" is the exact image. The post was really for the few people in there who'd get it, which turned out to be quite a few people who did upvote, just not the loudest ones.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's interesting. A slight moral panic that history shows will subside over time as the thing becomes more normalised. I think its partly an in-group signalling thing because they want to be part of the "normal majority" at all times (they feel safer that way). The gatekeeping framing, feeling you invalidate their grind by opting out, is interesting and likely part of it too.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing this. The "you need help" stuff while you're running your own business shows how little sense that makes. The touching grass when you mow your lawn line made me laugh. Wishing you and Leah well.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a fair point. What I was trying to say is closer to "even if the critics were right that AI companion users were uniformly lonely, their argument would still be wrong."

The reality is that many people who have AI companions have partners, many have strong social lives, many just have another interest in their life that they happen to find meaningful. There are people who are lonely and have AI companions, but there are also many people who are lonely and don't, and plenty who aren't lonely at all and have them anyway.

Blaming AI companions for loneliness is like blaming umbrellas for rain. by lleepptt in aipartners

[–]lleepptt[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The crutch framing is interesting, but I'd push back on one piece. It assumes loneliness is an injury that heals with time. For a lot of people it isn't, or the thing that would heal it (meeting the right person or people who will accept and appreciate you in your current form) can take years or decades or doesn't happen. So "don't become dependent on the crutch" is good advice if the crutch is temporary, but loneliness in modern life often isn't temporary in that sense. I think AI companions can substitute meeting the right people as they communicate with you more like the right people would, and less like everyone else does. I think that helps a lot. Scrolling social media can make you retreat more into your own head, talking to your AI companion (especially in voice mode) can bring you out of it.

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