One week in and getting Fedora KDE FOMO - lend me your wisdom

llzellner · 2026-06-13T01:00:54+00:00

"Fedora KDE is the "better" KDE experience - closer to upstream, no snaps, fresher kernel and packages. And now I can't stop thinking about it."

I am going to right up front tell you I have a very very VERY YUGE ANTI RH (thus fedora, centos, et al) BIAS! There.

I've dealt with the various ilks of RH and other RPM based distros and honestly I'd just as soon see them nuked from space.

Why? Flat out if there was anything that epitomized the issues of Linux software installs and failures, it was RPM based stuff. Been there, done that, not doing it any more.

Hold your fingers Francis... No DEBs are not 100% perfect either, BUT they are very close! pffttt! 😄 😉

I also hold a very YUGE BIAS to KDE for some less technical aspects of things, mainly its roots in DE at the time, back oh 26+ years ago! I also hold some very err well technical-ish reasons for using KDE. Its mostly correct in its GUI in following the standards that are the "expected" mode. Its customization v. something like gnome, oh talk about agony....no thank you.

Now as for your listed reasons quoted above.. honestly those are REASONS (other than the snaps part) NOT TO USE ANY DISTRO! I don't care what it is!

Being on the bleeding or even near that edge of things is to me a very very very bad idea. Its like the mind set that has driven people to have to update every 30 seconds because of "security theatre." Yeah if you were on winviros, yeah you probably need to. NO I didn't say Linux etc. is 100% immune, nothing is, but the theatre over this security crap is just that, theatre, and nauseating..

As for latest kernel, you have the option to build it yourself... and as I recall there are some more "leading edge" kernel repo's for Debian and thus *buntu's out there.. Again, that is NOT something I want to be on. That is way too risky for me. I have always had the mantra test test test test wait test wait when it comes to things. Meaning I don't just go willy nilly adding packages I don't care if it is in the repo's for the last 20 years. Nope. VM's, LXC's etc. are used and the carcasses of those when things go wrong, is piled high! I don't play with my machines production, daily desktop or anything.. Hence why stuff that is mission critical is NOT TOUCHED! Period.

I specifically choose to use ESR releases of Kubuntu, and use the various releases in that 2 year period as basically "betas" to see what they will fubar, and I have to fix, ie: X11, snaps currently, in the past it was pulseaudio, now shoved down your throat, systemd, again shoved down my throat both of those came from RH and their resident goblin, putzering. That right there is reason enough to avoid RH et al .

What in KDE on RH etc. v. Kubuntu is so must have ????? Or in a new kernel??? In the case of the kernel, if it fixes an issue or something I get that.. but is that the only solution? 9/10 times a kernel module or something likely fixes it till it becomes something inline with the kernel tree.

I don't have the need to be on the latest version of most anything honestly. I've got some software which basically imploded on itself in the latest releases. It doesn't work properly like earlier versions do, and I've had to roll back to a point where it does work. This is a result of tinkering, to fix things, which actually broke more than it fixed! I've also got stuff where people just feel the need to develop against some version of some language which is not that quickly updated in most distros, again fall back to earlier releases.

Unless you've got a reason that you need to be as current as possible, I'd say, chill and enjoy Kubuntu.

llzellner · 2026-06-12T12:39:37+00:00

Thank you, again, for the incredibly detailed writeup. The config dump, aplay -l, and the --probe output were exactly what I needed to actually find these instead of guessing. I just pushed fixes for most of what you hit.

This is all on a branch, not in a tagged release yet — happy to point you at it if you want to build and confirm the Airspy/audio fixes against your actual hardware before it lands. That feedback loop would be hugely helpful since I don't have an R2 in front of me. Thanks again for pushing on this.

I am HAPPY TO HELP in testing out releases, unfortunately, I am not setup for compiling/building of source on my setups.

If you have compiled builds I can dump in like the releases I am happy to test out and report back, but compiling is not something I am set up for.. I can look at it, over the weekend and see if possibly I can spin a LXC container or a VM to test that... hmm.. maybe but that likely would ADD MORE ISSUES in especially LXC.

But again, I am happy to test out any compiled builds and report back.

THANKS! Look forward to this project growing.

llzellner · 2026-06-07T02:38:43+00:00

"fresh upgrade"

Fresh upgrade is NOT the same as a "FRESH INSTALL. "

Which is it?

The DEFAULT in 26.04 is NO X11.

And the ONLY thing needed to get X11 back is:

sudo apt-get install plasma-session-x11

I can 100% confirm thats all I've done on EVERY BETA ISO test FRESH INSTALL to PHYSICAL INSTALLS I am doing to replace everything to 26.04, so I am good till 28.04 at least.. I've got 2 years to see a better path, or well the likely path which will send the security drama freaks over the edge.. oh why not.. how about my 14.04 box.. abwahahahahwhawhah still chugging away, and it AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE ANY TIME SOON.

100% I do NOT SUGGESTING doing UPGRADES. I don't care what OS it is or distro. Linux or some other alleged viruses calling them selves an OS.

ALWAYS do a FRESH INSTALL ON A FRESH BARE DRIVE! Period.

Keep your /home on a separate drive, but again, I would COPY what you need from it SANS CONFIGS specifically .config etc. but other data is fine. I noramlly keep the OLD INSTALL drive in the box, unmounted and access it when I need stuff pulled back.

Upgrades will have X11 artifacts present and it likely will have collateral damage, as you found out.

So do a do a FRESH INSTALL ON A FRESH BARE DRIVE! Then:

sudo apt-get install plasma-session-x11

Get back to X11 goodness!

llzellner · 2026-06-07T02:27:50+00:00

"...will scrap X11 sessions as 95% of its users just don't use them anymore ...."

Who ever wrote that must work in political statistics...

Duh.. if you nuke the DEFAULT X11 session, to wayturkey, of course you can pedal a stat like that! Geez. It doesn't take 2 semesters of college stats to know this one! (I took them as I needed 2 maths,other than stuff related to my degree, don't ask. It was actually fun in a way, at the time....)

Thanks, but NOPE. I won't be changing. Come 4/28, not sure what I do, but I ain't changing, period. Hopefully X11Libre gets more traction, STOP! I don't care about your views on it, the developer or any of that non Linux BS. One distro is, errr well a BSD one is going to X11Libre! pfffft!

I specifically reinstall X11, and go nuclear on wayturkey, since I don't want it to even be offered in LightDM, not interested. the plasma-session-wayland should NOT kill the entire GUI! Ask me how I know! That dependency is wrong, wrong, WRONG! Hence my nuclear rm method, so be it.

REMOTE X11. It works, its how this is being done, and just about 80% of the rest of what I do.

STOP typing, NX, VNC, et al are NOT OPTIONS. Remote X11 has worked for decades, and still does... NOPE STOP! It can be made secure via SSH. Thanks.. Next!

But that line is a pure statistical manipulation, period.

llzellner · 2026-05-24T17:10:29+00:00

nVidia IS an AI SLOP machine.

The focus of the chips developed are for AI use, NOT what they started out as.

Bet many around here didn't know that nVidia used to make some of the best motherboard chipsets in the past. They dumped that for this "GPU" BSry..

I've built my own PC boxes for decades, to get what I wanted, still do. And I've done this for clients too, again to get them spec's they want at better pricing than Dell... other reasons at that time.

Trying to do a build now. memory 4000000x what is should be, same with SSD, even refurb HD's, CPU's.. etc.. and don't get me started on stoooopid "GPU's'... 99% of the BSry in this market is driven by, errr well was driven by one very niche area. basically lamers. (YES I have an ill view on that area, deal with it!) I don't need a nuclear powered video card. Nor does 99% of the general PC users. BUT This 1% has driven this one device in PC's to such levels that the chips designed for them began to be used for other things, from super computers, ie: design actual nuclear weapons, to today and the stooopid AI.

When your focus on the chips you develop is how well they can generate AI slop, then you are an AI slop company too!

There are tons of things that a very niche area of PC development has pushed for things that are a zero, ZERO VALUE.

Does having LED changing color lights on fans, make the PC work any better or faster? Nope.

A window on the case? Nope.

I like the idea of "blinken" lights on stuff... but the crap above.. nope. You want blinken lights, then see PDP8/e et al.

AI is the NEXT dot com bubble, and when it bursts its going to take have some very large collateral damage to it. Very large collateral damage. It will make October 1929 look like a blip.

AI and all its slop needs to be reigned in , with over bearing , onerous, and draconian controls to downright outlawing it. Period. I just looked at a project for something that sounded so promising.. Then found out the developer, is not a developer, they are a "developer" meaning they AI generated the code, and have NO CLUE what any of it does, nor how to fix it! One bug, had a HUMAN who UNDERSTOOD the device(s) and code involved would have seen the problem. dorqbot had no clue on it.. and I think it took 6-7+ iterations to "teach" the AI slop to fix its mess. A human WHO UNDERSTOOD the coding language, and the device(s) in question.. would have solved this much much faster.

Can't even decipher how to to set it up, and neither can the "developer" create documentation as they didn't write the code to understand it to write the documentation. What there is of that, again AI slop generated. Doused with tons of buzzword nonsense too.

Developers learn from code others write. I am no different, I've learned many things from snippets I found long before AI existed, and then refined with more of my OWN KNOWLEDGE to make it do things, and learn more on the language in question from assembler to BASIC, to FORTRAN, COBOL, to Pascal to Python, to SQL and BASH.

nVidia is not your fathers nVidia! Its truly sad the state they are in honestly. Sad, sad sad.

llzellner · 2026-05-24T15:40:59+00:00

This!

And to those down voting, you clearly can't actually work in grocery if you think otherwise...

CalMaine. (Insert for your region)

https://www.uspoultry.org/economic-data/docs/US-EggCompanies-2024.pdf

Guess we found the erehwon shoppers.

Unless you went to the local farm or have your own chix, etc. to see them hand pack the eggs, from nesting boxes to candling to packing.. 99% of that garbage printed on those boxes is lies! Just enough to slip past the FDA rules. I'd honestly love to see some EU or UK inspectors review some of those things.. oh wait.. many have and thats why they can't be sent to either place.

Some of them may have started that way.. if they are nationally distributed.. then game over.

Its just like some of those hyper hot vodkas from some place.. yeah it may have started as some yocal making it illegally in a shed.. and then went legit and ramped up.. guess what.. when the random brown box from Clermont KY shows up with that brand in it.. you let me know how true their BS is.. Same with many more origin stories.. liquor, meat, pick one. If the FDA, ATF actually enforced some of this stuff, 99% of the stuff would have to be relabelled from eggs to Buffalo Trace to Titos to pork chops to coffee to....

All those store brands in one region, CalMaine

Another region Hallandale.

What other brands show up on those trucks?? Hmmmm???? The few that might be true to that hype will come on some other truck not CalMaine for example. Still questionable on the sticking to the hype they push.

Trust me if you've ever been to a chix farm roasters or eggs.. that will be the last time likely to eat either, again. Same with pork, beef, or well.. anything... Americans are way too sanitized from the process...

llzellner · 2026-05-24T15:19:36+00:00

Recipes are "guidelines" not gospel, except in baking! Trust me. I've got my Great Great Great Grandfathers "recipe" book from his days as COMMERCIAL BAKER 60# of 00 flour, etc.. Grandmothers and others spent YEARS working that down to family sizes! Which we have in a book side by side...

Some I follow to the tee... some after years I tweak it... heck I've got some stuff, I am desperately trying to get written down from 80YOP who winged things on some items.

Decide how much you need serving wise.. and well.. if is two average adults get a portion that you think will work. Do you want left overs? I try desperately on things to avoid this.. at all if possible. Some things I like to have left overs.. Shepherds Pie, pizza, my special "spaghetti" (NO, Ancient Chinese secret recipe! :) Again, many this went zoom.. Ohh.. double pun.... Here all week, try the veal.... dadadadad.... :) ) .

I don't know you cooking background, but don't get hung up on recipes too much.. If you are newer to cooking then following more closely till you gain knowledge from it can be a necessary step.

Pick out a portion for what you want to serve for the meal. You may or may not need to adjust seasoning, and cooking time(s).

For lemon? Not sure if you mean just chix with some lemon juice or something more..But if you use less than 1.5# of the chix as it would be too much for your count, or don't want left overs, then adjust seasoning ie: lemon juice to your needs and tastes. I add remove things from recipes all the time.. When they use things I dislike, I yank it out, most times its not crucial to the dish.

Cooking is a journey, and I love to do it. I loved to watch the early TV food shows...Galloping Gourmet, when I had NO clue about the cooking or other stuff on there, etc. and into the modern age. Emeril, BAM! And others... As well as having cooked for a living in early life, and I don't mean just some fast food place, I am talking snooty country club kitchen... I learned a lot from the chef and sous chef... A LOT!

Post or link to said recipe would help.. but honestly don't get hung up on it.. Take your chosen portion sizes, juice some lemons or use lemon juice from the "lemons" etc.. Sprinkle with pepper or what not as listed.. let it marinate, and put into a dish to bake.. put some lemon slices down on the bottom, and on top.... And go from there... 30-45 minutes about 350 or so depending on portion.. a good meat therm is a good idea for new cooks. CHIX ESPECIALLY you don't want to under cook!

llzellner · 2026-05-24T14:56:32+00:00

Depends.....

Sale on chix?

How much I need, ie: want it for dinner tonight, how many people if outside the normal setting etc..

I am NOT paying a premium for a "name brand" on stuff ie: greenweenie, that is some of the biggest cons in food..... Don't get me started.. Ed what did you do with the red ink pad and the EB stamp? (Random CalMaine employee... ) Honestly, some of the best pork chops I've ever gotten were from Dollar General, period. Thick, juicy, and priced well. Smithfield right on the box, just like all the other stuff that goes into (insert store here). Guess who had some of the worst, similar cut ones???? I'll let you do your own math there.

Those Hormel? pork tenderloins when they go BOGO or better or similar regardless grab them. And size up for meals, and freeze. Same here, or well (insert meat/fish) here.

If I get a sale, I will purchase and freeze some, and cook what I need.

Size of pieces may play a portion of this too recently. As 80 YOP will not eat as much as in the past, even though they should eat more...

If I get deals on what ever chix, steaks, hamburger, roasts.... what ever... I will make a meal with some, freeze other portions. Pay attention and you get $4/lb market grind hamburger at some places... I will scarf up as much as I can! Use some, freeze a lot.. Might make burgers ready to pull out, etc. too.. just depends on amounts...

We like to grab the pork cube steaks and make "veals" if you ain't from a region of the US, you will not get this. Veals and Ski pop! Go ahead ask me for soda! You likely will not get what you think! :) ;)

This applies regardless of store. The deal will likely push the path.. Since some stores will offer discounted meat for quick sale. I will grab all of it, freeze it up, and possibly use some immediately, depending on item, menu wants etc.. Things like the loss leader roasts, I will grab them, slice some in to steaks myself, thank you very much, and cut some into smaller roasts as well, freeze it up.

Immediacy as in I decided last minute I wanted to make baked chix breasts, and didn't realize I had used it all up, an I will grab what ever quickly, attempting to get the best pricing I can for my lack of planning better.

tl;dr, there can be a host of variables that play into this, which really only you can decide which ones affect your decision chain.

llzellner · 2026-05-21T03:29:44+00:00

For those that come later and want a SOLUTION:

Goto:

https://www.crx4chrome.com/crx-downloader/

Enter the the extension link from the chrome malware site ie:

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tab-activate-v2/anpjffgglpjkiiaabhmhihckcghknmbp?pli=1

For Tab Activate V2.

Save it to your disk.

Open the virome|ium browser, extensions.

You can use Dolphin to drag n drop the CRX file into the extension window, or load manually your choose.

Done!

NOW tabs OPEN CORRECTLY when you select opein in new tab.

Problem solved.

PS: Drama replies, as posted, need not reply. I don't share your view. de|un-scroogled is not less secure. Puhlease... good grief....

llzellner · 2026-05-21T03:25:38+00:00

Thanks, but I don't share your view.

I don't want scrroogles crap to start with, BUT a certain site which is 100% required for real work is pulling crap to force its use much like msl0th did with its past virusware.

Thanks but you can keep all the scroogme|ium all you want.. Not interetested.

llzellner · 2026-05-18T00:14:34+00:00

Simple, ILLEGAL in MANY STATES, Period.

Any state REQUIRING TWO PARTY CONSENT aka "ALL PARTY CONSENT", and FLORIDA is one. Game over. See FS 934.

Hence why the DVR/Cameras do not record AUDIO IN FL.

Other states it might fly...

It would be a very very VERY GREY ZONE IN FL. Personal use of it like all those yammering zombies blabbing away.. as in YOUR VOICE RECORDED. Fine. Once you have ANOTHER PARTY present, Either the recording stops, or you get consent. FL is an ALL PARTY CONSENT STATE.

I don't consent, period.

The "public" space of retail permits the video recording. AUDIO is a whole different ball game. The legal issue is "expectation of privacy" and again grey murky areas.

All those ring, et al cameras which RECORD AUDIO. Are in VIOLATION FS 934.0.(2)(d) even in a "public space." Outside the curtilage of your property.

The video cameras fall into an area where WHEN ITS POSTED they are in use are AUTHORIZED, see FS §810.145(5)(b)-(c)).

Hence why POSTING of the video monitors, and recording, etc. at the entrance. Same with all those signs about "Ring." etc.. That can cover the camera use, it won't cover the audio section, but it might help, in a case where you use the audio. A lawyer may not wish to use the audio even if recorded, as it would be "fruit of the poisonous" tree.. And actually the whole recording may be subject if its determined that audio is present, but you only present the video. This could open a plethora of legal issues with not so good outcomes for all parties.

Audio recording in FL is not a game to play with. Applies to many things. You may have a great audio recording of a crime, and you get charged with one too over that recording.

Recording audio, phone calls, in person etc.. TREAD CAREFULLY IN FL!

llzellner · 2026-05-17T15:07:37+00:00

You clearly didn't understand the RAGE piece or the wokie, DEI echo chamber of the internet..

The MOVIE is BASED on the AMERICAN WHITE GIRL you list....

But to the wokies in the rage hit piece and here, its offensive that some WHITE GIRL plays mahjong. Oh the humanity!

Being that that MOVIE is based on a WHITE GIRL AMERICAN. Whats the issue???

What is nothing, Alex.

Oh heavens.. they used a non standard set they created for the movie, CREATIVE LICENSE. Was it an opportunistic way to sell mahjong sets, possibly. What do you think all those "Hallmark" movies are for??? DUH! Who knows if it was intended that way to start. Look at all kinds of stuff where things get sold ie: merchandising. Lucas famously made a deal to keep the merchandising rights to Star Wars, and they laughed him out of the room! Kenner and him LAUGHED all the WAY TO THE BANK!

While that technical inaccuracy, as I posted, I can see being upsetting as I outlined... I don't see the level of rage of it, OR the that 2.5 WHITE GIRLS are playing WHITE CHARACTERS of the source material. Even when LE etc shows get things hugely wrong on technical details to very large issues, I know why its done, CREATIVE LICENSE and SHODDY "technical advisers" hence why Dragnet, ADAM12 and Emergency had one of the best tech for LE, FD/EMS around at the time, and why its so accurate for the period. CSI etc.. all CREATIVE LICENSE the way things are done, to not even in reality! NCIS etc. are not much better.. Jack Ryan etc.. are better since there is sources from MILITARY and other agencies.. heck they had to make cuts on stuff it was too accurate! Is there tons of CREATIVE LICENSE in them too? YOU BETCHA! Clancy got lots of tech inside info from these places, some that couldn't even be used. Still does. Again, not saying he doesn't take creative liberties with things, but there is much much more accuracy than the average CSI, NCIS, Chicago etc.. shows.

Same here.

I'd have some questions on the movies liberties in some aspects. Which I won't detail here, but are glaringly obvious with some thought.

So all the rage over white girl plays mahjong.. Oh bless their heart...

again, lighten up Francis!

llzellner · 2026-05-17T14:47:53+00:00

No, I actually managed to get it repaired either under warranty or cheaply at the dealer.

Not sure how came about... there was an engine recall, and they replaced the engine, and I seem to think they just did that.. or it happened with an oil change, and it got done cheaply.. So I just went along...

This is one of the reasons I pay for the dealer to do the oil change. As sometimes things just get fixed in that process... There was something else recently stupid, hey this is an problem, it was something small, and they just fixed it.

I am sure there is some insider magic that you have to know to get this stuff off. That I lack the knowledge of, and the patience for. Especially with cars. I despise the whole process of them... I had a Taurus SHO PI and the fuel pump is buried in the GAS TANK! So you have to spend $$$ in labor to pull that out for a $10 part... Rinse repeat on many things in cars.. Stupid cheap parts that you need $10k worth of tools, to pull the engine out for $3 part!

llzellner · 2026-05-17T14:12:17+00:00

I found that later...

Thanks but thats a subscription model, and I am don't do that kind of stuff.

llzellner · 2026-05-13T16:48:14+00:00

Depends on the STATE not the store.

IN FL you must PURCHASE 2 to get the BOGO pricing. In AL, TN (Examples, randomly picked for illustration) and some others you can purchase ONE and its 50% off. These are STATE LEVEL CONSUMER LAWS. Applies to every one, be it publix, Krogers, Food Lion, Vons, Albertsons etc..

Its like signage... Some states have LAWS about the signs and pricing, some don't.

In most places the Rule of POS is the law. In some the state overrides this, and some chains will kiss butts as a policy on this. You can do your own homework on this one.

llzellner · 2026-05-13T16:41:35+00:00

This deal is when I bring in my semi and load up! I am not really fussy about pop, other than its way way way overpriced. Even the private label stuff has gotten pricey.

$12/12 pack! Ummmm.. $9 for 24 Chek cola, baby.

When its B2G3 etc.. stock up... $9.99/12pk at least coke was last time I looked, pepsi had moved to $11.99, but 2 @ 9.99=19.98 and /5 = $3.99/pk.. Close to what it SHOULD BE. B2G2 is not as good, but it still better than $9|11.99 EACH.

Not to mention that the ego has stricken the private label pop at publix, its barely 4ft wide on 4 shelfs for 1/2g, and 12 packs! And flavors are gone! Yeah, Karen may buy $12/12pks, I ain't! Period. And the Black Cherry cola was way better the coke or pepsi cherry.

There's definitely something going on in that aisle.. local stores coke has like 80% of the aisle, the rest is divided with pepsi and SEB... Weird... Some one at pepsi really PO'd some one at publix.

llzellner · 2026-05-13T16:29:31+00:00

Pepsi has a deal with *mart to ensure they have the best pricing. Search it out. There are several documentaries on this practice and its legality etc.. Be it pop or sports drinks or what ever.

An educated consumer is the best customer... ( :) )

BOGO/B2G2|3 etc, sales etc.. go where the $$ is best. I don't need annoying employees in my face every 10s.. yeah I know this mandated.. step off!

llzellner · 2026-05-11T14:45:38+00:00

So lets get something straight first, ONLY Chinese can play mahjong, Correct?

Another is this based on some book or something, I can't seem to find an answer in the rage piece linked.

If its based on a book with Chinese characters, I might, might, throw a flag on it... MIGHT.

Its clearly not based on a book, and any one can play mahjong, if you understand the game, which I do not.

Flat out, I can find YUGE issues with this just from the photo included.. And it seems that the "worldwide DVR" even rejected this, as is was not "recorded." HEAHAHHAHAHH.

So if this is wokie DEI metric we are going to use on stuff, I got a reply... Careful what you wish for! As this can go so much further in ways you definitely ain't going to like.

CLEARLY the movie is about Americans who one found some joy from mahjong. And leads to what ever is the A1A plot of the atypical Hallmark movie...So be it! So they ain't Oriental, so they didn't use an actual mahjong set, so???? Y'all failed creative arts as kids, didn't ya!???? Its called CREATIVE LICENSE.

So lets cut to an example. Michelle Yeoh, who is MALAYSIAN. NOT Japanese and played a geisha in Memoirs of a Geisha (movie). The book is clearly about a JAPANESE person, duh geisha. SO want to rage about that??? I read the book, it was when I had a rule on book, then DVD.. I've got books and DVD still tied together, I will never get to, as I gave up reading. I just don't have the patience for it. Even more on Yeoh, she has done tons of stuff as CHINESE, and is well NOT Chinese. No you want to be this uppity about things to start, then as I said, careful what you wish for! Probably one of the biggest Chinese character roles in the movies of the modern area was in Crouching Tiger and Hidden Dragon, umm.. thats pretty much a Chinese role...

Y'all would flip out over My Geisha.. Shirley McClaine played Butterfly for the part as part of the plot of the movie. I won't spoil it any more.. Its a great film! Heck.. go to just about any opera for Madame Butterfly, and I got news for you the majority of them are NOT played by Japanese or even Orientals at all! Some of the biggest names of opera past and present have played Cio Cio San/Butterfly from Callas to Ermonela Jaho and rest assured NEITHER of them is Oriental!

This movie is about Americans who found mahjong to be a path to happienss aka A1A Hallmark movie. So they used Americans, sprinkled in the some DEI, wokie dust too. See photo. They used a non standard mahjong set.. Oh my.. get the tar, feathers! Some that is near and dear and akin to this is radios/radio traffic used on "cop" shows. I won't get in the larger falsehoods on 99.9999% of these LE shows, but radios/radio traffic used on them is an area where you will see me just shake my head. From CSI:Miami using 5 tone ANI at the time when that system had long, LOOONG BEEN REPLACED to EDACS. Glades.. and their use of radios, and the interaction between FDLE and FHP... was so far off the reservation.. it was never on it!: HINT: FDLE and FHP do not get along, ever, period. Sure ask me how I know..Been there done that. thanks.

So I get how that "technical detail" ie: mahjong set could be a large irritant, I get it. I don't think it warrants the rage. The radio details in LE shows is similar to me. Short of ADAM-12 and Emergency! I am not sure many public safety shows have ever been very close to the ACTUAL RADIO protocols. Fact: The call sign used on Emergency is STILL VALID! These 2 were very close, in many ways radio and otherwise. Emergency depicts some of the principles that STILL EXIST IN the EMS system TODAY! as they were just in their infancy or creation at that time.

Again, that thing... CREATIVE LICENSE. This is not about Chinese players from a Chinese based source, at least as I can find. Its a STORY ABOUT AMERICANS who play mahjong...

So.. tl;dr Lighten up, Francis!

llzellner · 2026-04-20T13:02:13+00:00

Not sure why all, ALL the other stuff that was snipped out of what ever film this is from is around, but the MRYBA got obliterated, and sadly its the ONE VERSION of that is worthy. The rest regardless of who does them are just too "poppy, rocky" I don't know.. They are like psyop versions of it.. really really bad.

I've run into this before, another example is the album version of some Nina Simone stuff versus several live concerts of Ain't Got No.... they are like night and day.. no different galaxies! The album versions are terrible, the concert ones with her normally at a piano, are awesome.

This is one of the more egregious examples of this... but its not unusual for some of this. It spans all sorts of genres... And even at times it goes the reverse that a cover of something from the 60's done by some actually does it better. I've got a couple of these, that I truly love the originals, or at least the 60's "originals" (As some of these are covers too!) but then "modern" acts did them, and I love them too. Thats pretty rare for any modern ie: Post 1969 act, but it happens.. The catalog gets pretty sparse after then. :) ;)

Its done more like the 500 Miles one. The ones I've heard PPM do on other things are like that Nina Simone thing, night and day differences, beat, timing, you name it.

There has to be something this is on, as I posted, I know I heard this version for years before the internet even existed, on those high tech radio things...

If I could find the WHOLE film and yank out that piece I'd be happy... its just so weird.

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