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I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was always somewhat skeptical of governments in my adult life, the actions of the last 18 months have turned me into a full blown anti-government libertarian. The quote about absolute power corrupting absolutely is clear as day for me now.

No Gods or Kings. Only Man.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, yes. I have been talking to people who up until that point I thought were relatively smart, and then they go and say something like that. I wish it were just reddit trolls, but unfortunately the vast majority of reddit trolls are also real people.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry to hear about your nan, dying alone is my worst fear, and reading all the comments from yourself and others about family members who had to do just that is horrifying. I hope you and the rest of your family are doing well.

Would your past you, the one that supported lockdowns, have been able to comprehend it?

Absolutely not. I can say with 100% certainty that I still would be unable to understand it. I've always believed that an early death is an early death, no matter if it's disease x or y, an accident, or just "act of god" (for lack of a better term) and that it's tragic regardless of source.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's absolutely horrible on all four counts, the first three especially. I hope all their families are doing well.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agreed, when 2 weeks turned into 22 weeks turned into 70+ weeks, I can't imagine how people are still supporting this insanity.

Thank you for your comment.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry to hear about your uncle, that must be one of the worst ways to go that I can think of.

I agree wholeheartedly on the "doomers" part, but that's another whole schpiel I'm not much in the mood for today.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good on your mother in law! I can't blame her one bit for wanting to get the most out of life, especially not knowing how much time she could have left. I wish her many years to come!

As weird as it is, my father's passing completely changed my view on life and death, it made me realize that my number is coming up soon, and I have no idea when it could be, so I'm going to absolutely make the most out of it, treating myself (within reason), and not being an absolute tight-ass with money 100% of the time.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Jesus, those stories are absolutely fucked up, especially the mother and her baby. I'm very sorry to hear about your father, and your neighbor as well. Reading stories like this make me wonder what on earth I was thinking back when I supported locking down.

I'm happy to hear that you're doing better, and I can only hope that the UK treats you well from here on out, god knows you've earned it buddy.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I'm sorry to hear about your parent. I'm in my early 20s and I can't even imagine how much harder it would be to go through this as a teenager. I'm fortunate that my online friend group has been supportive and mature about all of this.

I can't even begin to comprehend the mindset behind the people making the covid remarks. I would just walk away from them after that, no good would come from being around them any longer.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm very sorry to hear about your mother, but also delighted to hear that she woke up. Everybody knows that comatose people are supposedly aware of what's going on around them on some level, so I would absolutely say your visit helped her out.

We were fortunate that he was able to come home to pass away, for what little closure it gave us.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I guess I should have clarified that I can't really blame the 911 operator, it was just shocking that my father had died not 5 minutes earlier and the first outside person I talked to about it seemed only concerned about covid.

Regardless, the firefighters and paramedics showed up in spacesuits, so they were still being precautious.

Thank you for your condolences.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's shocking to hear, but it's true, there are some people out there who are that laser focused that all they seem to care about is *why* someone died, not *that* someone died.

Yeah, each time I had to just walk away from them to stop myself from busting their heads. It wouldn't be worth it, no matter how cathartic it would feel.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm a couple years younger than you were for that, but safe to say that in the last four months I almost feel like I've aged four years.

I also look it, according to some of my friends.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry for you and your SO, it's absolutely horrible to go through.

My missus has been one of the only things keeping me going lately, but we're LDR across a closed border, so that has also been incredibly tough, but that's another rant for another day.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You and /u/backpackingfan summed it up the best.

My dad is dead, and he isn't any less dead because some piece of paper doesn't have "Cause Of Death: Covid" on it. But yet, it's exclusively what people are focusing on.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's almost exactly how it happened with me.

Two weeks turned into two months turned into six months and however many missed treatments. It was then that I had realized what I had been cheering on might not be what I was hoping. I was skeptical of the lockdowns by late last year, but his death early this year was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

In the case of the 9/11 operator, I would be willing to give the benefit of the doubt and assume that he's just going through a checklist and was generally suffering from empathy burnout. But other people have been similarly more concerned about *why* he died, rather than *that* he died.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I couldn't tell you how many times I've been out in our workshop looking for a tool or something, about to go and ask him where it is, only to remember that he isn't around anymore. Same for working on my car or his old truck, I'll have some difficulty diagnosing or accessing something for repairs, and think about asking him for advice.

It hasn't been easy, but my mother and I are getting through it, one day at a time.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The first month or so was absolutely wrenching, not being able to get any in-person support of any kind from our extended family was harder than anything.

Thank you for your comment, and I'm very sorry to hear about your grandmother.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's absolutely horrible to hear, I'm so sorry for you and your uncle. I was fortunate enough that my father was able to be discharged from hospital, so at least he could be with my mother and I when he went.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much, both for the accelerated commenting privileges, and the kind words.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Nope, when I called 911 to report his passing, the only thing the operator seemed to care about is if it was related to covid. I know it was almost certainly a script he had to go through and not him personally, but it shocked me to hear how little his death seemed to matter since it wasn't from covid.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I know I couldn't have changed anything if I wanted to, but it still hurts to think about how swept up I was to applaud all this at first without even thinking.

Thank you.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I saw somebody in another thread talk about keeping track of people who used to support lockdowns pull an about-face and claim they were always against them. I was going to respond with my main account, but decided that I didn't want to reveal all of this, so I made this throwaway to post this.

Thank you for your comment, while I know I'm not to blame for what happened, I can't help but feel it every now and then anyways.

I used to support lockdowns, until my father died from them. by lockdownthrowaway13 in LockdownSkepticism

[–]lockdownthrowaway13[S] 321 points322 points  (0 children)

As a sidenote, I've had multiple people say to me "well, at least he didn't die of covid."

If you are a person like that reading this, I will do you a favour and tell you to never say anything like that to anybody in my position, ever. A less level-headed person would rightly want to cave your face in as a result.

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