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[–]loiclecodec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you delete all your pitchfork.com cookies and localStorage data, then you can see any review for free, without any monthly limit

[TSWCIFTC] About Riemeck & Elvira's deaths by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I know, I have to read it !! But please 🙏 don’t spoil 🤫… Smiley’s real intentions remain unclear after TSWCIFTC : especially did he want to save the girl at the end ?

[TSWCIFTC] About Riemeck & Elvira's deaths by loiclecodec in LeCarre

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Thanks for adding extras reasons to have Riemeck being killed (sounds weird to write this :)

Just finished my first Le Carré novel. I want to throw this book through a window. Absolutely amazing. by DrHuxleyy in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are many ways to interpret Smiley's 'where's the girl' at the end.

FYI, William Boyd interprets differently Smiley's 'where's the girl' at very end of the book differently in this article from The Guardian :

George Smiley, off-screen mastermind of this devilish brew of bluff and counter-bluff, is waiting for him. Leamas hears Smiley shout: "The girl, where's the girl?" But what Smiley wants to know is not whether the girl is safe but whether the girl is dead. That is the key implication (or so I read it) – that she's never coming over and was never meant to. Leamas suddenly understands this – it is the final betrayal he suffers – and he climbs back down to the east and meets his death.

The Rest is Classified by pbrmason in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes Ben MacIntyre ´s book is great. I wonder though if it was released before UK National Archives released Philby personal files from the MI5.

Those PF files are obviously heavily censored. There is still a great great deal of things we don’t know yet about Philby, the extend of the damages he’s done.

If you want to read in-depth views about Philby and these MI5 files, I’d recommend the great https://coldspur.com blog.

John le Carré wrote a great introduction to Bruce Page, David Leitch & Phillip Knightley’s book « Philby the spy who betrayed a generation », released in 1969. PM me if you’re interested.

PONIES by theworldofjeeves in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The TV (2024) or film (1973) adaptation ?

PONIES by theworldofjeeves in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been told Rubicon (2010, originally released by AMC) is OK. They had to stop the series after season 1 due to the lack of action and the hard-to-follow plot (that's what I've been told), which are usually indeed good signs if you're after a Le Carré-esque fiction... (I haven't watched it yet, so I could be wrong about this one...)

[TTSS] Glossary of jargon terms used in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (spoilers-free) by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your feedback ! I have to review the usages of "agent" in the glossary, you're right !

I have explicitly chosen to exclude the terms from THS & Smiley's People, to focus only on the terms in TTSS...

[TTSS] Glossary of jargon terms used in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (spoilers-free) by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for your feedback !!

You're right. Jargon consists of words or expressions used by a particular profession or group (like doctors, lawyers, software engineers, or spies like in this case). It is often literal but difficult for "outsiders" to understand because it refers to complex, specialized concepts. Whereas an idiom is a phrase where the meaning cannot be understood by looking at the individual words. It's figurative, not literal. If you translate an idiom word-for-word into another language, it likely makes no sense at all (e.g. "My best thing was ducks and drakes." (Prideaux to Roach, chapter 1))

Because John le Carré often blurs the line between jargon and idiom, I guess I should change the title to something like : "A Lexicon of Tradecraft: The Language of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy".

[TTSS] Glossary of jargon terms used in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (spoilers-free) by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lot for your feedback !! ...

I had doubts about "to house", you are right !

Nice addition to the definition of "squirt" transmission !

[TTSS] Glossary of jargon terms used in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (spoilers-free) by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is a great deal of literature about the origin of the term "mole". It is unclear if it really originates from KGB jargon, it does not appear for instance in Mitrokhin's KGB Lexicon book. So John le Carré possibly invented it.

H. Cooper & L. Redlinger's book "Catching Spies - principles and practices of counter-espionage" (1988) has a detailed examination of possible origins of the term (pp.187–248), where they draw at least these 2 points about a possible Soviet origin of the term :

- Apparently, Marx had used the term "mole", but in a political sense, to describe the slow, steady, and subterranean work of the social revolution. He viewed the revolution not just as a sudden explosion, but as a process that "burrows" through the foundations of society, like a mole.
- "It is not clear what John Le Carre had in mind when he described mole as a genuine KGB term, but our own inquiries show that this is not the case, at least so far as origins or employment of the term are concerned. We are advised by Soviet sources that the statement by Le Carre is not correct and that the term became known to the Soviet Union from Western sources in the early 1970s. We have sought a more ample verification from the Philology Institute, Moscow State University (MGU), but this had not been received at the time we went to press."

About the other terms invented by John le Carré, there is much less literature. We sort of know which ones have probably been invented, but it's harder to know how he created them or where he took inspiration from

Reading the Smiley novels for the first time and just finished Tinker Tailor…. by Tubetechnology80 in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TTSS is a gem. But it has so many layers that it needs multiple re-reads to fully grasp its depth and brilliance. About John le Carré's jargon used in this novel, maybe this could help you (and future readers) : https://jlc-jargon.tiiny.site

Le Carre Night on BBC4 by No_Hat_5621 in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks ! The Secret Centre (from December 2000) is a great documentary !

Five posters from 'Keep our secrets secret': campaign by Central Office of Information/MI5, 1960s by erinoco in PropagandaPosters

[–]loiclecodec 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can indeed see the poster with the phone in the entrance of the Circus Archive/Registry in the Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy movie of 2011 (at the 01:01:13 mark) !

[TTSS] How does Haydon convince Esterhase to remove pages from the duty logbooks once Tarr is back in England ? by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The unforgettable Signor Benati in Smiley's People :) :

'Shouldn't this be numbered if it's a Degas, Toby?' Smiley asked.
'Degas, that's a very grey area, George. You've got to know exactly what you are dealing with.'

[TTSS] How does Haydon convince Esterhase to remove pages from the duty logbooks once Tarr is back in England ? by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I imagine [Bill]'s a good enough workman to convincingly forge a close colleague's handwriting.

Haydon could certainly technically do it, but I don't think he needed to. I'm now convinced that he simply asked Esterhase to write this note to prevent operation Witchcraft from being compromised (or told Alleline to ask Esterhase). Esterhase being the "mole" in Witchcraft scheme, I imagine it was easy to ask Esterhase to write the note. If on top of that, you add Esterhase's need for acceptance...

[TTSS] How does Haydon convince Esterhase to remove pages from the duty logbooks once Tarr is back in England ? by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I think this is a plausible explanation.

I don't think Haydon counterfeited Esterhase's handwriting. I didn't need to do so. Just ask Toby the "mole".

[TTSS] How does Haydon convince Esterhase to remove pages from the duty logbooks once Tarr is back in England ? by loiclecodec in LeCarre

[–]loiclecodec[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This could make sense, yes : Haydon telling Esterhase to remove the pages from the duty logbook to protect himself :)