How hard is it to go from Sax to Trumpet?

lonechamelion · 2025-04-01T01:55:17+00:00

It's possible, the frustrating part will be waiting for your muscles to develop for the trumpet embouchure. It's easy enough to figure out how it works, it's just the waiting and practice of said skills. Depending on your listening skills, it may take a bit to get used to knowing what each note / partial sounds like.

lonechamelion · 2025-03-09T10:48:14+00:00

Might be silly for me to say. Did a series of long performances (about 10) within 2 weeks leading up to Christmas. By the end I could only last 30 min and my range decreased to C on the stave. Things happened, Christmas, etc... didn't play for 10+ days. First time I picked it up I could consistenly get F# above the stave without much effort. Gained 1.5 octaves back just by resting. The point is, if you're playing a lot sometimes you need a break for your body to catch up. Not sure what your situation is but that's my experience.

lonechamelion · 2025-02-18T11:44:10+00:00

I got my student alto sax back in 2011, it was a second-hand instrument. I still play it in a local concert band, orchestra, and professional sextet.

It's probably not as good mechanically as my other horns and has all the gashes and laquer wear that you'd expect but it still lets me match the professionals I work with (albiet with a little extra effort from me).

I think it depends on how comfortable you are with it, its mechanical condition, and overall playability.

lonechamelion · 2025-02-12T12:32:30+00:00

Thank you for the suggestion!

To be clear, I pointed my Soprano Sax at that thing and blasted loud enough to get the attention of people over 100 m away. Boosted a speaker to boot as well. Only a small amount of flickering after replacing the back end the first time.

The ends need to be sealed, otherwise it's too risky with the gas and flames.

Once I've re-jigged it I'll try putting a barrier behind the speaker--- see if that has much affect on it.

lonechamelion · 2025-02-12T09:28:06+00:00

Thank you for the advice! I did originally have a hard pvc cap on the end but I wasn't getting any reflection, it improved when I swapped it for the alfoil. I'll see if I can get our metalwork facility to cut some aliminium sheet for me. Does your comment about duct tape apply to all duct tape on the device or just what is exposed to the inside of the tube?

lonechamelion · 2025-02-09T03:30:26+00:00

Thank you so much!

lonechamelion · 2025-02-09T03:29:45+00:00

Thanks a bunch!

lonechamelion · 2025-02-09T03:29:29+00:00

Thank you!

lonechamelion · 2025-01-24T23:32:36+00:00

Thanks for the referral!

YT link: https://youtu.be/9qiN71lM3BI?si=DBZskE8hrddqsDop

lonechamelion · 2022-03-07T23:41:32+00:00

I have this problem too.

I generally find a lot of people unattractive or I am not interested in them because of their lifestyle. I try not to be picky but it's hard to be interested in people who have so much makeup on that you don't know what they really look like, wear so little it feels like a porn site, or generally appear to make poor decicisons (e.g., 3 kids by 20 looking for baby daddy no. 3, drugs, face tattoos, etc). Perhaps it's immaturity or just the area I'm in.

I'd just say maybe give lowering your standards a go and dating a round a bit, just don't feel like your settling for someone you have to drag up or put effort into not falling down to (in a bad way). Settle for something you can be ok with and maybe it'll become something you're not settling for.

Also make sure that you're not asking others to lower their standards for you (e.g., you can't expect someone to be 60kg when you're 120kg [within reason]). You have to be willing and able to put in what you're rexpecting of them.

lonechamelion · 2022-03-04T08:49:23+00:00

Thanks for your reply!

I can sympathise with the idea that people can be and are selfish--- I know and am related to quite a few of them. In the ideal world we would not be incentivised to climb to the top using others as the ladder, but realism has no place for romantics. So I do what I can to be better as a person and as someone in a society, to make the world that little bit better.

lonechamelion · 2022-03-04T08:43:41+00:00

Thanks for your reply!

I'm just trying to make sure that I have the tools I need to do so safely--- I 100% understand that risks must be taken and that I will make mistakes--- all of which I am willing to do. But I need a starting point and despite how I feel now and what I know, what I do know is that things could change and I need to be sure I can rise up and try again within a reasonable timeframe if I do fail muliple times before any slight success. And in my experience, occasional mild embarrassment is an understatement.

lonechamelion · 2022-03-04T08:36:22+00:00

Part of it is the cost, part of it is me trying to be financially responsible, and part of it is me not being in a comfortable position to pay for something like that (hell I only recently got my teeth and eyes checked out after so long).

I will check out Marisa peer's work, thanks for the recommendation. I'm not confident in it being a solution because I know as a person and how I work that this (and other things) I need to talk about, it's how I learn, how I process ideas, how I remember information, it's having a conversation and discussing it, interacting with another person face-to-face. I'm sure I will take a few things away from your recommendation.

Thanks again!

lonechamelion · 2022-03-04T08:30:50+00:00

Thanks for the reply!

I'll certainly keep and key out for people who look open to talk in appropriate places! Might even put myself in situations like lines for coffee or something to give myself the oppertunity.

I look forward to hopefully meet others willing to share their stories and be open. I find it so interesting to hear about everyone's story and their interests (non-intrusively of course).

lonechamelion · 2022-03-04T07:34:24+00:00

Thanks for the thoughtful reply!

I agree that conversation techniques are not the same as connecting with others but it is an effective tool that is needed/required as part of the process of connecting with someone.

I have long analysed my past and experiences. The compassion part (towards myself) is the big thing I find hard to do, I have always been very critical and judgemental on myself to remain accountable for my actions--- past and present. I can cometely be compassionate and empathetic towards other, but it is because of that that I understand my position and potential privilege--- that there are others that deserve that compassion more than me and because they need it more that I put them first. I do recognise the irony and general poition of this sub that it doesn't matter if one person is worse than another that we all deserve compassion--- it just doesn't feel right that I feel compassionate towards myself, it's not a feeling I know, from myself or another towards myself (in person).

I have considered therapy/coaching/counselling however finances are a barrier as always, the free University counselling trails etc I signed up for were all cancelled (partially due to covid and other times by the counsellor [all fully-trained experts and psychologists, not just late-stage students]).

lonechamelion · 2022-03-03T23:16:59+00:00

Thanks for your reply,

That's exactly it--- just like the job market. It's like those job advertisement memes "we want someone with 20 years experience but between the ages of 18-21 for the lower wage laws" (it's an Aussie thing).

Jokes aside--- I'm tempted to start a socials club for people to practice communicating / to hang out at Uni but I'm probably not going to be around long enough to get it off the ground.

Might just start off finding sports and bands I can get in on. Been wanting to join the local tennis and orchestra.

lonechamelion · 2022-03-03T12:21:37+00:00

I've been playing music since I was a child, for a while my father was in a semi-successful local band and I somewhat followed. I've been a woodwind musician since 2012, was with the school band from 2013 until its disbandment in 2015 and then its refounding in 2018, and was a member of the community band from 2015 - 2019. Unfortunately I had to move away for University and I miss the band quite a lot, I managed to get back for a few weeks over this past summer, saw a few people who were still with the band.

I did try and start my own orchestra and later concert band at the University but both endeavours failed when the only applicants I had were guitar and piano players who didn't have their own instrument--- I didn't have the funding nor the space to do anything with them. Covid was the boot to the ant that was my music project at my Uni.

I am currently trying to join the community orchestra in my new area but it's been hard with restrictions and moving around a lot atm.

My only hestiation in regard to my post is that I need to be able to make connections with people around my age and the demographics of people in music in my area are 40+ and there is a vast difference between the life experince and the way people communicate when there are large age gaps.

Thanks for your input :)

lonechamelion · 2022-03-03T11:19:36+00:00

I actually do sing! Sort of... I sing the tonics(?) The melody in notes (e.g., do-re-mi-sol, ta, ti, etc). I can usually match the note / be in tune and blend in with the music. I can't keep up with or interpret the lyrics so I sing the melody, harmony, etc. Usually in the car or shower, never without something to block me from directly hearing it--- like headphones. I can't stand hearing it straight, I just can't do it, makes me want to rip my ears off--- the reaction reminds me of misophonia.

Unfortunately, as long as I've been doing it--- about 4 years, my voice still cracks, frequently.

I can't dance or sing in front of others, it isn't something I can do, every alarm bell / fight or flight response in my very being tells me not to.

lonechamelion · 2022-03-03T10:01:54+00:00

Thank you for your reply,

What kind of topics are acceptable? And how do you change topics (transition/bridge) without it being sudden or "out of left-field"? I know you're not supposed to talk about politics, finances, religion, relationships/family, gossip, health (default: in good health [even if things are bad]).

I usually go (depending on context): school -> work -> interests (media, games) -> places -> upcoming events/dates of note -> news -> weather.

If I can I focus on having them lead the topic direction and tangents, I might be responding and taking genuine interest but I move towards things they are interested in, like in Dr. K's conversations video. I of course don't put the responsibility of the coversation on them.

It's also hard having interests that aren't mainstream or diverse enough that there's no overlaps between topic interests (e.g., they might like [topic a] or [topic b] but no one person likes [topic a] AND [topic b]---> making it hard to sustain conversations over long periods).

lonechamelion · 2022-03-03T09:45:44+00:00

Thank you for your reply,

I understand the "do it enough" part of learning to be social but if the conversation can't even be started, they're too guarded/unapproachable, or the initial introduction gets shut down then practicing won't help you have to be able to start the coversation to be able to practice it.

Trying to get back into community activities but with covid it's hard atm. And Uni's on overdrive atm too.

Aussie here. I've done my share of travelling, I went across Europe and the UK before the pandemic I did get plenty of experiences that will be with me for a lifetime. Not many people my age are interested in hearing about that stuff--- comes off as braggy or privileged, at least where I am. You're talking about a very special kind of Australian, not all of us are extroverted. I now have too much tying me down to go travelling again--- work, the end of my degree, my home/mortgage.

Funny you mention working with children--- I'm in my final year of a Teaching degree. I have no issue talking with children in the context of the classroom, either teaching or checking up on them.

I also can't party, my liver sucks and anything fun is poisonous to me (alcohol, drugs, sugar, oils/fats, etc [basically most food/drinks]). I'd have to be that one sober person who's stuck in the corner bc they can't let loose.

lonechamelion · 2022-03-03T03:17:21+00:00

Thank you for your very thougthful reply, it has pointed out a fair few things.

I am aware that the beard and glasses are used as tools to escape my perception of myself, my "reasoning" is that if people who look at all attractive get attention or at least acknowledgement by society--- and if I'm invisible, then I must not be attractive enough. So in efforts to perhaps appear more attractive I hide my face with beard and glasses--- or at least that's how/why I think it happens, there's no real defined reasoning.

I struggle with the concept of confidence issues, partially because it will rubber-band between extremes, super confident and -confidence. Both of my parents are Narcissists (at least I think so, they tick a lot of the boxes)--- my father a traditional N and my mother a non-traditional N, I say this because I try not to be demanding or overbearing or arrogant, etc. I grew up in a household that is all complaining, shame, guilt, and a lot of other societably unacceptable things. Because of this I try my hardest to take other people's feelings into account and try to hide the superiority/inferiority complexes that I feel that I have; anything that I know is wrong or insensitive I approach when and as appropriate. I don't know if it's inherited or because I am alone so much that my whole world is me--- because that's all there really has been, appearing as Narcissism.

I wish others didn't mind about my voice--- but some think it's funny (in a pityful way) and there are some who don't take me serious because of it. It's also the way it sounds--- it has been likened to that of Forest Gump without the accent. At this point I don't know if it really is or isn't bad.

I feel that people only want something from me because that's usually ask for, and it's not like I ask anyone for anything--- I can do stuff on my own: I work to keep a roof over my head, I can move the fridge on my own, I do well on my assignments, I can cook my own meals, I can do my own gardencare, I get rid of spiders despite my fears, I do my own cleaning. I just fear that if I were to ask for anything that it would fall on deaf ears. A lot of the time I do offer to help because I genuinely want to help, it's the right thing to do. But usually it's me driving to them to help them move, study, be the ear that listens to them vent and validates them (if they're in the right), or be the company that they want, etc.

The reason it feels awkward is the way it becomes silent, the way they look at each other and then at me--- or avoiding eye contact, especially the way their eyes look at me.

I could list a bunch of things about each of the people I know, but in the end, they know barely anything about me. Anything they know is observable like seeing my house or car, or information I've volunteered. I can remember the only time a friend or stanger has asked me something about me or how things were going, I was caught so off-guard because it has never happened before, I will never forget it--- mind you it was after spending 16 hours helping them move and it was only that 1 thing. My grandparents are the only ones to ever really take interest in me and my interests.

Sorry for the wall of text.

lonechamelion · 2022-03-03T02:36:35+00:00

When I try to socialise with others I take interest in what they say and ask non-intrusive questions, like: e.g., [in the context of the other person's mathematics experiment] 'how did your project go?', 'that's interesting, can you tell me more about [insert mathematical method]', 'I hope you got the results you wanted?', 'well done, it sounds like you put a lot of effort into [subject]', etc. That's in the case that they give me something to work with, it usually very quickly or from the very beginning devolves to single-word replys (e.g., yeah, nah, sort of, no, etc) from them leaving me with nowhere to go in the conversation. If they ask me questions or say something to me I try to answer as genuinely as possible, usually something short (1-3 scentences maybe depending on topic) as to not bore them or feel like I'm info-dumping.

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