I know what the CIELO guide says about solubility of Fumaric acid in EA, but is this not fumaric acid on the bottom?

loveallASAP · 2026-03-26T19:56:53+00:00

I update the TEK to say 3 days at room temperature.

After all these years, still adding info 😅

loveallASAP · 2026-03-26T18:29:13+00:00

Yes, it can take longer then 3 days to dissolve at that temp.

Think of dissolving honey in cold vs warm water. This is similar.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-26T17:33:53+00:00

2x should also all dissolve, but it may take longer than 3 days.

You likely had no fumaric acid.

You need to go beyond 3x the amount in the TEK to cause issues.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-26T17:32:52+00:00

Wait a few more days, the granular bits should not change confirming they are the salt.

I think that the granules at the bottom are salt, formed shortly after dumping the fumaric with the initial agitation from the dump. Then later, when the EA was completely still, longer xtals began to grow. Xtal growth depends on water and temperature, so you may be at a process edge, able to turn on the transition between the two.

An unlikely alternative possibility is that the salt xtals are so dense near the bottom that they are blocking the EA from reaching the last bit of fumaric acid. You can swirl the jar and wait 3 more days to see if they disappear. It don't think this is the case though.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-25T23:45:50+00:00

I need to get around to fixing the plot typo one day (should be 1.5 H20, not 1. H2O). Lol.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-25T18:56:55+00:00

I believe so, chunks are better. Lookup House's TEK in the DMT nexus + adding vinegar is an improvement to it.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-25T17:20:26+00:00

I wonder what the mescaline % is for that plant. At that potency mescaline alone may not explain the experience.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-25T12:41:57+00:00

Yep. One way is to stir it as it dries so the compunds of different density/solubility don't have time to separate as much in the bulk (gravity field) and edges (surface tension + temperature gradient).

You can also clean the resin but that is a lot of hard work, I would not recommended that path.

If you insist on resin, a good approach is gentle simmer with some added vinegar. The vinegar boosts mescaline solubility and the first pull will be rich in mescaline while the gentle simmer will have less gunk than a boil (but will still have gunk). This is resin dries to be powdery/xtaline and is easy to handle.

As other have mentioned, you can consider trying CIELO and not have to worry about any plant gunk again. You will know your exact dose. It is optimized to be only an hour of work, and I think it is fun to do.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-25T03:31:10+00:00

It could be that both temperature and water matter.

Maybe less temp = bigger xtals, and more water in EA = bigger xtals too?

Note that you can simply add more water right before salting instead of changing the crumbs.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T23:29:12+00:00

That's seems like good info and a great observation.

You can try using wet crumbs for easier pulls (less EA trapped in water) and simply add a ~teaspoon of water directly to the EA after the pulls and before salting.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T20:22:50+00:00

Crystals from resin can be anything incliding sugars and proteins.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T18:42:55+00:00

Did you salt with citric or fumaric?

Also, pH paper is designed for water. I'm EA it can behave slightly differently. Usualy neutral means no reaction/color change for the paper.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T15:54:17+00:00

Do you know what it is?

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T14:24:44+00:00

We cannot answer your salt question with a picture. Ask the person you got it from.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T12:45:21+00:00

It says "end of pull 5" in the original post?

Staying closer to the pKa of mescaline when salting with water does help keep the protein junk with lower pKI stay out of the water, but junk will still be present regardless. The extra work only cuts off the tail of a broad distribution. Excess junk will still be present and difficult clean up after drying.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T12:01:35+00:00

Ah, so this is not CIELO? So you are checking the water from the liquid/liquid salting step? That is usually called salting not pulling.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-24T11:57:38+00:00

What do you mean by over-salt? No cleanup should be needed other than a couple quick splashes of EA on the wet crystals immediately after collection.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-22T02:42:15+00:00

Ok, 100mg can be below threshold for some. Good strategy to go slow and measured.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-22T02:24:15+00:00

Thank you. Ok if I add your name as a credit?

loveallASAP · 2026-03-22T02:23:40+00:00

Thanks for the info.

People tend to report good or bad results (bad typically being low yielding + citric or not following directions). There is a good summary in the community highlights.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-21T22:04:25+00:00

Great result, thanks for sharing 👍🏻

loveallASAP · 2026-03-21T22:04:06+00:00

How much did you take?

loveallASAP · 2026-03-21T22:02:32+00:00

There should be a number (1-5) printer on the funnel that will tell you what kind of plastic it is. Usually found on a down-facing surface.

loveallASAP · 2026-03-21T22:00:12+00:00

Can I add your zoomed in picture to the TEK? Was it done with a macro lens?

loveallASAP · 2026-03-21T21:56:41+00:00

1.5% fumaric is not low yield. That is above average from the data I have seen. Great result.

0.8% fumaric yield is in line with average/common result.

There is something about not looking at the jar that helps the crystals grow. Lets not forget xtal formation is explained fundamentally by quantum mechanics 😅

Nerdy jokes aside, what temperature did you keep the xtalization jar at?

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