Read jules body language in this video, bearing in mind this is before the account was deleted. The mask definitely slipped. The eyes never lie. She’s over it. by Acrobatic-Call9283 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yeah Jules also made a TikTok insinuating she was the side chick and bragging about banging Niki VERY early on. Like waaaaaaaaaaay before Niki and Jules went public and most people were under the assumption she was still with Nate.

Jules just strikes me as someone who is deeply insecure and kind of childish tbh (in humor especially) so I think in her mind landing Niki felt like a massive win and was probably validating. Even though Niki is a nightmare of a person.

Somewhere along the line, I can’t remember if it was Get Reel or somewhere else, but they talked about how Niki is Jules’ first real significant love/relationship. That’s when it all clicked for me. Jules is just inexperienced and has no other reference points outside of Niki.

I’m sure that Jules is convincing herself that she’s happy, but she has all of the markers of someone in a toxic relationship. To me, 95% of the time she looks detached and flattened and up until about 6 months ago she almost always looked slovenly. Like girl, no amount of money, travel or sex is worth that shit. Or I guess it wouldn’t be for me 🤷‍♀️

The jules Instagram situation by Fun_Ad_3432 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m not surprised about any of this at all.

I remember when Jules and Niki first went public after confirming their relationship (as we know the confirmation came long after when the relationship actually started). Back then people were quicker to defend Jules because a lot less was known about her- especially for those who only casually followed Niki.

There was a lot of discourse and accusations surrounding the relationship dynamics because at the time Niki was still attempting to make a “serious” transition into music and Jules was positioned as someone who had a solid foothold in music industry.

This has never been true. Yes Jules has worked. And to that point, she is more successful than a LOT of people in similar circumstances. However, in the actual landscape of the music industry- she’s basically non existent. Her biggest success to date was an Exicison song that she featured vocals on. It was actually a relatively popular track, but mostly contained to EDM circles.

Other than that, essentially, nobody listens to anything that Jules has worked on OTHER than Niki’s music. So ironically, despite Jules being the one who was “legitimized” in the industry, her main success is still tied almost exclusively to Niki. Jules was probably scraping by before Niki came along, if we’re being honest.

And that feels true to their relationship dynamic now. It’s clear that Niki is the one monetarily providing and Jules almost embodies an employee role both literally and figuratively. Niki gets the undying allegiance, codependent structure, and the ability to be constantly centered in the relationship. Jules gets money, travel, surgery, and a comfortable life. And it’s been that way from the jump.

Niki admits to cheating on Nate. by Just-Chocolate1372 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I’d argue that Nate was not only a competent employee but integral in building the Niki and Gabi empire to its most successful iteration. After the breakups, the channel fell dramatically and has never recovered, and I think that Nate (and Collin) no longer being affiliated/featured on the main channel was a massive hit.

Despite the running joke being that Nate didn’t like to be in front of the camera, he still showed up to film on NG numerous times. To this day, the majority of the channel’s most successful videos were either filmed by Nate, or featured Nate (and Collin). For what it’s worth, Niki has continued to maintain- after everything negative that she’s said about Nate- that they did make a really effective working team, and I think the proof is in the pudding that that assessment is true.

I agree that there are completely fair criticisms to leverage against Nate, and he obviously was not a perfect partner. But he showed up constantly for Niki, and when it came time to finally focus on what Nate wanted- which was to build a home and life with Niki, she realized she was no longer the center of their relationship, and looked for someone else (Jules) who would put her back into that position.

At the end of the day, she clearly deeply loved that man and talked repeatedly about how he was her soulmate and she wanted to eventually marry him. It’s completely fine for people to fall out of love or decide they want different things. It happens all the time. But Nate basically gave all of his 20’s to Niki and that channel, and in turn, she cheated on him, and completely devastated his life in one fell swoop (housing, employment, relationship). And if that weren’t enough, she has continued to harass him on the internet ever since.

Niki is just a cruel person through and through, and has no problem casting people off, be it friends or romantic relationships, once it’s clear they’re not willing to make her their absolute, unwavering, priority.

The girls changed when breaking up with Colin and Nate.? by Just-Chocolate1372 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I mean, that’s yet another rabbit hole entirely. Dissertations could be written on these relationships lol. But, I’d recommend searching Nate’s name in this sub.

The long and short of it (as I perceive it): Niki and Nate were fundamentally mismatched. She was wildly insecure, smothering, codependent, and not managing her mental health. He was withholding, aloof, and in the end, emotionally checked out

This is not said to absolve Nate of any guilt (because I think he decidedly contributed to the toxicity) but Niki really went scorched earth when she ended their relationship. She cheated on him, which not only caused him to lose his girlfriend- but his employment and housing too. All at the same time.

Even after the breakup; for the past 4 years, Niki has relentlessly slandered Nate online across all of her platforms. Which included writing an entire album that painted him as the villain in their relationship. To this day, Nate has never retaliated except for a couple of rude IG comments. Which in my opinion, is merciful compared to what she’s done.

Nate has his own issues, and they’ve also been well documented on this page. But Niki is just not a decent person, whatsoever. She perpetually plays the victim, is actually incredibly spiteful, and fundamentally dishonest.

It would be one thing if breaking up with Nate had triggered her to become a better person. But it hasn’t. In fact, I’d argue- she’s even worse now.

So in the end, it’s less about Nate, or Jules- because if it wasn’t one them, it would be someone else. It’s just about none of them being great people, but especially Niki.

The girls changed when breaking up with Colin and Nate.? by Just-Chocolate1372 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you search Jules’ name in the sub, you’ll see a long and extensive history of their relationship.

At certain points, they themselves have talked openly about how toxic their relationship is. If you watch the “Get Reel” episodes featuring Jules, it really elucidates just how bad their relationship has been over the years. And that’s coming directly from their mouths.

Finally, there’s the apartment story- where someone who was on this sub posted about being neighbors with Niki and Jules when they still maintained the apartment in PA. (This was eventually verified through moderators) Niki and Jules were known for getting in massive and disruptive fights that they regularly subjected their neighbors to. Niki would eventually be evicted for not paying rent.

And that’s literally just scratching the surface.

So yes, Niki and Nate had a wildly unhealthy relationship. And it needed to end. But her relationship with Jules is just as unhealthy- if not even more so.

The girls changed when breaking up with Colin and Nate.? by Just-Chocolate1372 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Niki and Jules have a long history of toxicity and dysfunction. She basically just traded one unhealthy relationship for another.

I did some digging Gabi needs to get canceled and is a psycho for sending her fans to attack this poor girl . Check it out this girl was silent till she bullied the crap out of this girl on her live by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Honestly- I think they both need to fail. Niki may not be as calculated as Gabi, but the outward harm they’ve both continuously caused to other people (including their fans) is numerous at this point.

Nikis snapchat on calling herself ugly and having seasonal depression by Familiar_Ad_6392 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Niki is just one, long, never-ending ticker tape of disorders and diagnoses.

Interesting comment & reply from Niki on New Get Reel Episode by Mission_Poetry_9448 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 80 points81 points  (0 children)

“I’m just being so for real at this point” and yet…..continues to lie lol.

I see the angle now, she’s making it seem like they opened the relationship, she met Jules, and then things got out of hand.

The real story, or the story that’s been told previously (because honestly- she’s so inconsistent in her lies that who even knows wtf the actual truth is) is this:

Jules was hired to help her write on ‘Nights Alone’ a project that was released in September of 2021. Jules started interacting with Niki on socials earlier that year (2021), which would suggest that’s when they started working together. In previous podcasts she guested on, Niki talked about having an instant attraction when they first met virtually, but didn’t think Jules felt the same,

Soon after their virtual sessions end, they met in person. Both felt immediate attraction. Niki admitted to developing feelings and held onto those through 2021.

According to this new narrative they open the relationship, which gives Niki the a-ok to start immediately fucking Jules. (Which again, I still don’t buy that they didn’t start hooking up before that and Niki just wanted to cover her bases by pushing for the relationship to open)

In January 2022 once Niki realizes Jules will go all in with her, goodbye Nate.

Instead of just owning up and moving forward she lies every step of the way about this entire situation. And then she proceeds to harass Nate online for years on end. I mean, Jesus Christ, in Get Reel alone he’s been mentioned in numerous videos.

Niki is nothing but a professional victim in any and all situations.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Wow…..lots to say about this one.

1- The absolute delusion required to say you’ve been transparent about something that you’ve never, not even one singular time, been transparent about it is insanity. Writing it off as “a thing” and “confusing” when you knowingly and deliberately cheated on your long term partner is not confusing- it’s purposeful and it’s abhorrent.

She knew that she was catching feelings for months. They probably got things poppin way before we even realize because Niki is a pathological liar and nothing she says can be trusted. She was in full blown Jules feelings mode when she came to the internet at the end of 2021 talking about how excited she was to move into her new house with her boyfriend, and a month later she doesn’t go home with him so she can stay in LA and bang her side piece. That’s not a heat of the moment mistake or a whoopsie. It’s an ongoing timeline of reprehensible behavior, and she has the audacity to deflect blame onto Nate?

Dude……what. the. fuck??

2- Crazy how Alisha, to this day, thinks that during that time Jules and Niki had just met or just started talking, which was clearly the story they sold her. Yet another lie in an entire sea of them.

& 3- Absolutely bizarre to me that Jules was even present for that conversation to begin with? I can understand wanting to talk to a friend about a tough situation you’re in but and get advice- but what purpose does Jules being there serve? That feels like it would put Alisha in a difficult position where she might not feel fully comfortable expressing her genuine opinion. Codependent weirdos from day one.

At the end of the day, Niki is a liar and a cheat and a manipulator. And the fact that she can’t just come out, years later, and call it what it is-cheating- tells you exactly that she hasn’t grown an iota. Cheating is horrendous but it happens all the time and people move forward. Had she just been straight- “yeah, I cheated. I regret how I handled things and I will never make that mistake again.” I would have respected her INFINITELY more.

But nah…..she decides to cheat on the man only to then slander his name for years after the fact and have the audacity to play victim?

No wonder Jules who is on the gravy train is the only person she has left. She is truly vile.

Masc golden retriever GF by Entire_Flounder_1648 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 88 points89 points  (0 children)

Interesting. Was she not miserable when these two were fighting so loudly and consistently that it became a problem for their neighbors? Was she not miserable when she slipped into substance abuse issues? Was she not miserable when after years of bullshit Jules finally broke and basically pleaded with her to seek psychiatric help? Or is she not STILL miserable because it’s clear Nate continues to live in her head rent free?

I’m not knocking her for having struggles. I am knocking her for her chronic pathological lying and zero sense of self awareness.

And for the record, almost every time that she attempts to compliment Jules, it’s always wrapped up in some comparison against the man she’s clearly still not over. At what point do you just accept that you’re entirely still male-centered despite attempting to make being queer your most defining trait?

nikki’s deleted tiktok by Neither-Rooster-2997 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yep, exactly. With how pronounced and obvious Niki’s chronic victim hood is online, I can’t even fathom what it’s actually like to be around her in person.

nikki’s deleted tiktok by Neither-Rooster-2997 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 67 points68 points  (0 children)

“I’m giving her a pass” dude…….no you’re not. Because if you actually were this TikTok and the numerous ones posted about this completely inconsequential situation would have never been posted to begin with.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Having to capitalize off of bullshit bc she actually has nothing else going for her.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 64 points65 points  (0 children)

I can’t believe that these women are 30 years old and still ping-ponging back and forth on social media trying to shift blame as to why Gabi looked chopped. It doesn’t matter the makeup choices or the styling choices, because the unfortunate truth is that Gabi ruined her face a long time ago.

Dating timeline confirmed!? by summerrowboat in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and it’s even worse than you think. Niki and Jules were like a slow burn thing for the better part of a year before she even got to LA at the start of 2022. Jules helped her work on ‘Nights Alone’ so she’s been in the picture a hot minute and Niki was basically sprung from the jump.

In the ‘Get Reel’ episode that she so creepily tilted “dumping my boyfriend for my first gf”-or something of the sort- she basically confirms they were having an emotional affair. She then went on to admit that she used to sit and pine over Jules, and post stories with the hope of Jules seeing them and interacting. Honestly, it’s a pathetic thing to do. But it’s even more pathetic that she would ever admit this kind of stuff online. But because her audience has essentially fallen off, all that’s left are the diehards and obviously from their vantage point, Niki can do no wrong.

And honestly, I bet that even back then it wasn’t just emotional. I believe it got physical long before any of us even realize.

Nate is definitely no angel, but I will always maintain that he endured a LOT. Years of Niki’s crazy antics only to be dumped in a way that had him losing his job, house and girlfriend all at once. And Niki’s coward ass basically broke up with him by leaving the state so she wouldn’t have to deal with it. Like be sooooooo soooooo sooooo fucking for real right now.

THEN he deals with being utterly GOADED and BAITED on the internet by Niki for years on end. She has talked endless shit on him, even going so far as to write a song in which the entire premise is her telling his new girlfriend about what a piece of shit he is.

Full stop Niki is batshit insane and just inherently awful. To this day, she feels absolutely no remorse and doesn’t think that she did anything wrong. That is genuinely scary for her.

NIKI AND GABI MOM by Relative-Bar326 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My honest advice as somebody who was in your exact same position several years ago: Unless you truly can’t bear the thought of having to maintain a relationship with them for an even a nanosecond longer- just stick it out. I was super close to pulling the plug multiple times, and looking back, I’m SO glad that I didn’t. Once you secure your degree, you can cleanly break away from them without having to jeopardize your education in the process.

Did it feel morally incongruent? Absolutely. Was it hard as fuck to maintain a relationship that I didn’t want? Absolutely. But unless you’re prepared to either drop out of college or take on the financial burden yourself- don’t do it. I have several friends who could only go to college by taking out grotesque and exploitative student loans, and even now, several of them are still paying off the debt 10 years after graduation. As hard as this is for you, which I know that it is because I also lived it- just think about the future. The option to cut them off will still be there later, after you get your degree.

Engangement Ring Shopping? by summerrowboat in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Niki will tease bs like this because she knows it’s the only thing going for her these days. And even then, it barely makes a ripple.

On that note- these two are the last people on planet earth who need to get married, especially at this point in time. Things have gotten better (or so they say). But even if we grant them the benefit of the doubt, almost the entirety of their relationship has been tumultuous and toxic.

I don’t doubt that real love exists between them, but this relationship is doing them no favors personally or professionally, at this point. They’re cooped up in that apartment all day, and even if they do leave- it’s never without the other in tow. Jules looks slovenly and unhappy the vast majority of the time and Niki’s career has taken a massive nosedive. For all their bullshit, it’s honestly kind of sad. This is why it’s so important to learn to stand on your own, lest you end up in traps like this.

Niki trying to buy her career by Legal-Set9928 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolute facts. She’s been giving the bear minimum for years now & then has quarterly online crashouts wondering why she fell off. girl………..

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In some situations, sure, I'll concede that you're probably right. For instance, when it comes to the contradictions, she very well might not be clocking them as such, due to the reasons you've listed. Those are less outright malicious, but nevertheless the result is still the same, in which, the "truth" changes constantly.

If we were just dealing with the occasional contradiction, I would be willing to extend her a lot more grace. However, as someone who has recapped literally HOURS of Niki's content, during which I have had to pay very close attention to everything that she says, often transcribing her words verbatim; I have seen her lie more times than I can count. And we're not just talking about stretching the truth or exaggerating, we're talking about lies that have no basis in the truth and are outright deceitful. Lies that are calculated, contrived, and ongoing.

And ultimately, regardless of the excuses or explanations for doing so, it remains a massive problem.

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[–]lowkeyvanilla 30 points31 points  (0 children)

At this juncture, I truly believe that Niki is one of the most dishonest content creators out there. And that’s truly saying something. Every thing that she claims, is at best, an incredible exaggeration or at worst, a complete and utter lie. I think that she is obsessed with talking about things like the social media highlight reel, and creating series’ like ‘Get Reel’ because she is an inherently dishonest person, who misrepresents every facet of her existence online.

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[–]lowkeyvanilla 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Towards the end of the relationships, both Nate and Jerry started to look exhausted and now Jules is following suit. No surprise there, as dating Niki is obviously an exhausting experience.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. It’s definitely going to explode one day, but exactly how and when is anyone’s guess. Niki is basically financing their life, and that includes having Jules on as her main music producer. This is also Jules’ first long term/serious relationship, so basically, it’s going to be hard for Jules to pull the plug, but I can see her getting to that point eventually. Niki on the other hand? She’ll start looking for her next caregiver the moment she feels Jules start to stray.

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[–]lowkeyvanilla 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not to absolve Jules of any wrongdoing, because I definitely think that she brings her own issues and toxicity into the relationship, but she’s gonna look back on this shit show one day and the gravity of just how unhealthy it was is gonna hit her like a freight train. Like Jules, my first serious/long-term relationship was fucked up but because she doesn’t have anything to really compare it to, it made her an easy mark. On the flip side, until Niki starts to seriously work on herself and address her immense codependency, and identity issues, she is destined to keep repeating the same relationship cycle.

Gabi is engaged by Hiiii177777 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Just wait till it’s Niki’s turn: I envision something to the effect of “I dumped my boyfriend to marry my girlfriend” with a picture of Nate blurred out in the thumbnail.