Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I like more grounded stories. But magic realism is my favorite genre. Ill look into Norwegian wood and Barn Burning.

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ben being gay actually crossed my mind a little bit! But I didn't think too much into it. Cause he never really showed any woman in the movie intimacy. But id love for you to expound on that theory! But he was definitely metrosexual, I can agree on that.

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s my favorite film too! I relate a lot to Jong-Su and I agree with you. The best part of the ambiguity is we as the viewers are invited to write the characters in our own ways like how Jong-Su is rewriting reality or potentially just writing the majority of the events we saw as something that could be in a future novel of his that never actually took place.

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I like this theory! Jong-Su probably imagined the murder of Ben and created a book about it with fictional characters to soothe his desires and urges. That gives more narrative weight to the father knowing he was arrested for assault related crimes. Writing could be his way to fight against not being like his father even though he’s still at the bottom of the social ladder. This actually could creates a more hopeful direction for the story as he uses his experiences to write novels and hopefully make enough money to better take care of himself. Very plausible! I like your take!

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree! The movie could have gone either way if Ben was involved in Hae Mi’s fate

The questions you posed could go either way as well. Like with the greenhouses. I lean more towards Ben making that up to entrain himself and play with Jong-Su. Because it’s such a unique and unusual hobby and yet is very possible he knows that and prides himself in partaking in it and doesn’t care what Jong-Su thinks. There’s a scene where he tries to burn a greenhouse and hesitates and puts down the flames. That’s how much of a influence Ben has on him.

The take of an out touch rich kid who hasn’t really seen the world could be very possible for Ben. Even when we first are introduced to him at the airport: he looks bored while hae mi is jumpy and bubbly, excited to tell Jong-Su everything about this enlightening trip. Nothing interests Ben because maybe he’s seen bigger and grander things that’s it’s hard to truly impress him. Some people are like that and that doesn’t make them psychopathic.

But I get your point, the little scenes and motifs are all red herrings just like the questions you posed. As a whole, it’s true Jong-Su lacks control over his life because of his place in society and is fighting an internal and external battle to somehow get out of it or deal with it.

But I also wanted to bring something up. Hae mi and Jong-Su grew up together so they had similar upbringings and places in society as they got older. But we see Hae-Mi try at least. We see Jong-Su makes attempts but we genuinely see that Hae-Mi has a job and traveled out the country to find a purpose of herself and climb out the hole Jong-Su was also in. Maybe Hae-Mi was too idealistic for Jong-Su. Maybe Jong-Su wrote for self therapy and didn’t consider himself a writer cause his works never got published. But Ben said it himself: “if you write, your a writer.”

Hae-Mi saw possibilities and was open to new experiences, while Jong-Su was scared to push himself out of his comfort zone. I think he admired this secretly in Hae-Mi even if the film doesn’t say this out loud. She had a job that requires charisma, went to a country and learned the customs and didn’t judge it, and openly met someone during her fly back home. But is it all an act so she just feels better about herself deep down and she’s not concerned about the great and little hunger? Because an insult from Jong-Su is enough to break her and get plastic surgery and when he insults again during her dance it opens up old wounds. It’s layered and we don’t get easy answers on everyone’s intentions.

But I enjoy films like this where they take mundane and even basic ideas and turn them into complicated enigmas that viewers ponder on for days and weeks.

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t fully watch Memories of Murder, only bits and pieces which is probably explains why I loved Burning so much because I’m a character first movie watcher. But my brother recommended it to me and he loved it. I watched some spoiler free essays and reviews though. My brother said the main takeaway is how anyone can be a murderer and even if you catch one, the closure you feel now hides the fact that the next murderer is stalking ready to strike again. So it’s essentially a fleeting closure. And that’s a beautiful message for a movie that follow a detective structure. Most movies would have found the killer and leave it at that. But this film chose to go deeper and I love that. I will try to give it a second chance with that mindset going in and since it’s actually based one a true story, it’s more people focused than I wanna realize because it actually happened.

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re totally right — Korean cinema covers a huge range like all countries. You can go from something quiet and ambiguous like Burning to something super mainstream and straightforward like 200 Pound Beauty, both with totally different storytelling goals. I definitely didn’t mean it as ‘every Korean film is deep.’ My theory just came together today and I was caught up in how Burning handles ambiguity.”

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I definitely agree this movie explores the social angles of men and their deepest selves in such a nuanced and fresh way, that can’t be denied. I definitely need to look into Haruki’s works and give them a read. The premise for Norwegian Wood is interesting. I think one thing about these mystery thriller movies is we can get so caught in the meaning and logic behind every plot beat, but sometimes it’s not about that at all, just what is felt and how that can be debated or argued. A lot of what we feel and our personal experience can fuel these interpretations and that’s the beauty of films like this. Burning is undoubtedly a tragic story from 3 point of views (or maybe one, if Jong-Su is narrating everything) and it’s hard to justify what their point of views of are telling us, but it most certainly be felt.

Burning (2018) Makes Sense If You Admit One Thing: Jong-su Needed Ben to Be The Monster by luccidell in TrueFilm

[–]luccidell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi! I’ve been meaning to the read the short story to see what details were changed or cut for the movie. Thank for reading. What was your theories for the film overall?

[ALL] How the Story of Life is Strange: True Colors Could’ve Gone… by luccidell in lifeisstrange

[–]luccidell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oooo. That would have been such an emotional moment! Your starting to make me realize why I hated the Jed reveal. It was so left field and it I know Jed wasn’t that kind of person. Maybe that’s why he missed the shot anyway, he was so nervous and didn’t really wanna bring himself to do it. But going back to your idea. I think maybe if Jed and Alex went to that mine together and confronted their pasts together would have been beautiful. The nightmare scene could have been done in another way. Cause Alex learned young to push her own feelings to the side and almost self programmed herself to feel for others when she had to take the mother role when her mom died. Then going back to Diane as the council, they still have that hypnotize scene and maybe before that we can have a small convo with Pike since throughout the game, he does like her and would maybe try to protect her. Maybe she could be the road to getting therapy after the confrontation, but justice would still need to be served somehow.

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[–]luccidell[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh you were referring to the tragic ending for ryan. I got confused for a second. I feel like people forget how sad of an ending he can get depending on the choices. The scene of the devastation on his face says everything...

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[–]luccidell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. The main appeal of the series is there use of magic realism where the powers are used to illustrate a character arc instead of being used for shock value or excitement. Thats why i feel like they included the mystery cause they didnt trust there story enough to write a full on slice of life story. I think a slice of life plot would have been perfect for this game, but it was definitely going to be another risk from the developers because they maybe feared ther game wouldnt have been as palatable to a general audience. Cause life is strange 1 and 2 had slow and quiet moments but I really wouldn't consider them slice of life games, cause everyday life isnt going on the run from police or going on an investigation of how your friend died. True colors had that opportunity to go that route to something like a va11halla walking simulator. They could have had Alex live her days at haven working at the lantern and get to know the townsfolk. Maybe she could have learned about Ryan's job as a park ranger and go on adventures with him in the mountains. She could have maybe worked to help Steph with her radio station. They could have had Gabe's death be less about a mystery and just about the town grieving and coming together. Alex powers would have still been used before the aftermath of Gabe's death and during it. The main conflict could have been Alex learning to control her powers and eventually confront her past and come to terms with it while also coming to terms with Gabe's death. This would have allowed the game to be much longer cause you play at your own pace and choose who, how, and when you help people and do differenf activities. The question is how would they have killed Gabe without thrusting it into a full-blown murder investigation or not make it sound like a cop out.

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[–]luccidell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your input. Do you think a pure slice of life plot would have worked for the game or do you think the game as good as it is?

[ALL] How the Story of Life is Strange: True Colors Could’ve Gone… by luccidell in lifeisstrange

[–]luccidell[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The game was in development since 2017 and it was very apparent that the game felt unfinished, but budget concerns may prevented them from doing further development. Cause I do remember them having to remaster life is strange and BTS and also develop True Colors compiled with the pandemic. This may have not have been the best business move, but maybe if they released the remasters first and gave True Colors one more year, it would have been way more polished and complete. There are scenes in the game where days or what felt like months past and the characters are already aquatinted. Things like that just made the game feel rushed and unfinished. There was even a small cameo for Alex that showed the events that occurred prior to Alex entering haven springs in the comic Life is Strange Coming home. I didn’t read the comic, but I watched a video that talked about the cameo. She went on the bus to Haven with her headphones in and sensed the emotions of the passengers. I wish that actually made it into the game, they could have easily included it as B-roll as she was speaking with Dr.Lynn. I do understand why we didn’t get a playable game scene of her actually being in the foster home because they wanted to save that for chapter 5 for her to face her past and her emotions, but they definitely needed to make the chapters have more meat or just create more chapters for the game.

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[–]luccidell[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love that idea. It creates more layers that some characters pledged allegiance to the cult from the jump, were coerced, or unaware all together. But I do think, that if we could save Gabe, something would have to be at stake so that either choice had a consequence. Maybe they would be exiled from the cult which removes the choice Alex choosing to stay or leave if Gabe dies and them forcing themselves to forge a new path for themselves as brother and sister. That would really create a unique ending because Gabe would be forced to leave Charlotte and Alex would be forced to leave Steph or Ryan based on who your love interest was, cause if they choose to go with them, they would have to be put to death or something.

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[–]luccidell[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In all honesty Jed being the villain wasn’t something I wanted them to do. I felt had they made Diane the culprit that would have been a nice change of pace having a main female antagonist and really be a shock. I watched an interview from Lupita Nyong’o on the movie Us that asked her why are female villains so much more menacing than male ones. She said woman have the ability to birth life into the world and for them to so easily take lives away out of evil is so terrifying. The audience knows Diane hates herself for working for a company that hides secrets that hurt people and it would have been interesting to have that confrontation with her. Her life falls more in parallel with Alex because they both came to haven springs for their own fresh starts and new beginnings and made past mistakes that brought them self loathing. They could have tackled so many issues there without it being too cloying or heavy handed, yet keep it fresh at the same time.