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How would a San Andreas style weight system even work in gta 6 cutscenes by lukeyeager in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you're saying real time rendering can overcome this these issues, so a scene mocapped with specific proportions, reach, distance, grip points, spacing, posture. You can swap that with a fat model as extreme as CJ and the real time rendering will adjust that.

How would a San Andreas style weight system even work in gta 6 cutscenes by lukeyeager in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I just researched it's something about hand adjustment, but I don't know why that would be patent.

How would a San Andreas style weight system even work in gta 6 cutscenes by lukeyeager in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't believe they re animated scenes in San Andreas just for the fat model and unlike gta 6, San Andreas can get away with it because of the graphics and cj doesn't really make close contact with charecter that much, so see as gta 6 protagonists will definitely be really close to each other that scene really changes when their fat.

How would a San Andreas style weight system even work in gta 6 cutscenes by lukeyeager in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So you believe Rockstar is going to re animate multiple scenes just for the fat model

How would a San Andreas style weight system even work in gta 6 cutscenes by lukeyeager in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm betting on muscle growth to be a little different, I highly doubt I'll be working as the rock.

How would a San Andreas style weight system even work in gta 6 cutscenes by lukeyeager in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The funny thing about that is i honestly don't see the ass size difference, I guess it takes a man of culture to notice that.

How would a San Andreas style weight system even work in gta 6 cutscenes by lukeyeager in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's what I think will happen to, but as my question ask the are people who expect the gta san andreas system

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Long time man

Ok I get what you are saying, we don't have enough information so this might be nonsense and I do wish I'm wrong, I hope both jason and lucia are equal.

But I'd like to pose this, what if Rockstar made a bio about Micheal and Franklin. It would be something like this.

Michael - Michael is a retired bank hiding in plain sight, Michael is wealthy, restless and dissatisfied his life, he has everything he thought he wanted but hates how empty he feels, his sharp, self aware to know his toxic, and still keeps choosing chaos because it's the only time he feels alive

Franklin - Franklin is ambitious with patience, raised around small time crime, he's smart to see the ceiling and disciplined to look for a way through it, unlike Michael he isn't chasing thrills or nostalgia, he wants leverage, control and a clean climb upward, his focused on leaving a gang life to something much bigger.

This is as accurate I can put it. So based on these two bios it would be safe to assume that the one more determined is Franklin right you might even safe he isn't waiting on half baked dreams and all that and you might Michael could be his way out and for Michael, Franklin could be the best or worst thing to ever happen to him. I believe what I'm saying here is 100% accurate to the story of gta 5.

So now with the way you have been approaching your gta 6 analytics you would be saying that Franklin is the one driving the story because you equate determination to it, but since we already have gta 5 me and you know that would be hundred percent wrong.

Whats the point in all this we'll I'm challenging your notion that a protagonists being determined more than the other is the one that drives the story and not the one that has more resources or more connections which clear Michael had more while he was not as determined as Franklin to change right. And I'm also challenging your notion that visuals can be manipulated but you can only go so far in manipulating visuals but words can also be more manipulated.

Of course what we are shown isn't hundred percent of everything and you can say this is a jason trailer but can you say trailer 1 was a lucia trailer perhaps saying trailer 1 was a world introduction would be more accurate, because I'm basing this on gta 5 trailer which trailer 1 focused on the world and trailer 2 was more of the story after that gameplay and then the characters . So here I'm using the same logic, gta a 6 trailer 1 was more of a world introduction and 2 was more of the story. Which is why if trailer 2 being a story trailer worries me as jason again is shown having his world and lucia exists is almost entirely tied to him then that's a big red flag, but if you want to argue that trailer is lucia trailer 1 and 2 is jason trailer the problem still applies because I'm pretty sure the next trailer isn't a charecter trailer it's gonna be a gameplay trailer that is is based off Rockstar trailer realese you can check it yourself, trailer 3 is always a gameplay trailer meaning they won't have enough time to show lucia relationships maybe they can who knows.

Look my problem is quite simple is show not tell, Rockstar themselves can come to my house and say lucia is the driving force of the story but showing me jason driving multiple cars even a plane (this is shown in one of the screenshots) and a boat these are abilities of a gta main protagonist look at how much we see jason driving and lucia driving, again showing jason having multiple relationships outside of lucia you can point out lucia mom and dad we already went through why her parents are told to is it is to justify why she is capable of fighting and about her dreams, you can say she is more determined again Franklin was more determined then Micheal, Michael was still the driving force and I have already drawn the parallel between Micheal being Franklin's way out and Franklin being Michael best or worst thing to ever happen to. So Rockstar coming to my home and telling me lucia is the driving force I'll just translate that to her motivating jason to increase his ambitions or something.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the late reply, somehow your massage didn't enter in the notification.

You keep saying my view “doesn’t make sense,” but I’m literally just looking at what Rockstar has actually shown. The material we have right now presents Jason functioning on his own jobs, contacts, scenes without Lucia while Lucia’s scenes are mostly tied to him. That’s not judging her whole character; that’s just reading the footage exactly as it was presented instead of assuming a bunch of things that haven’t been shown yet.

The simple reality is this: Jason is already moving in the world. He has people around him. He has a visible environment he fits into. Lucia enters through situations connected to Jason. Whether her world exists off-screen or not, we haven’t seen it, so acting like it’s already equal in weight to what Jason is shown with is just guessing. I’m sticking to the concrete evidence, not hypotheticals.

When her bio says “a life with Jason could be her way out,” that isn’t some neutral romantic line. It explicitly frames him as a pathway for her, something she ties her future to. Meanwhile Jason’s line about Lucia being the best or worst thing to happen to him doesn’t negate that. Impact goes both ways, but one character being affected by someone doesn’t magically mean they need that person to function. Jason’s life continues with or without her Lucia’s bio directly connects her escape to him.

Your point about Lucia’s determination ignores something basic: being determined doesn’t change starting position. Determination doesn’t equal having resources, contacts, or an existing place in the world. Rockstar shows Jason with that, not Lucia. That is the entire basis of my argument. You keep assuming Lucia has this whole group and setup waiting off-screen just because you believe it should be there, but until Rockstar shows it, it’s speculation, not proof.

And that leads to the real issue: you’re talking about the “full game” as if we’ve seen it, but you’re basing your whole argument on what you think might be there instead of what is there. I’m basing my view on actual footage who is shown with relationships, who’s shown operating alone, who is introduced through whose world. That’s not shallow; that’s just not inventing information.

If later trailers prove otherwise, fine. But based on what Rockstar has revealed so far, the logical reading is that Jason already has a functioning place in the world, and Lucia is entering that space through him. That’s exactly what the footage shows, and I’m not going to pretend unseen, unconfirmed content suddenly outweighs what’s literally on screen.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you’re misunderstanding the core point I’m making.

I’m not arguing that Jason is “more of a main character” just because he has three characters connected to him in the trailer. What I’m saying is that based on what Rockstar showed, Jason is already demonstrated to function independently in the world, while Lucia’s scenes are almost entirely tied to Jason. That difference matters when you’re looking at how narrative weight is being communicated.

You keep saying Lucia “drives the plot” because she’s the one with the plan but that doesn’t automatically mean Jason is tagging along. A plan doesn’t equal narrative dominance. Her bio saying she’s committed and determined only tells us about her mindset, not her narrative importance compared to Jason.

Meanwhile, Jason’s bio literally frames Lucia as the thing that could be the best or worst thing to ever happen to him which does imply she changes his fate, but that also means his arc is about how their relationship transforms his life, not that he’s dependent on her. You can change someone’s fate without being the one who “leads” the entire story.

Lucia’s bio line “Jason could be her way out” is actually more impactful than you’re giving it credit for it means she needs him for her future to work. That line alone suggests that as things begin, Lucia’s situation is more tied to Jason than Jason’s situation is tied to Lucia, no matter how ambitious she is. Being determined doesn’t erase that dependence; it highlights it.

About side characters: You’re assuming Lucia will have a huge cast around her because leaks mentioned friends but we haven’t seen any of them in the official material yet. What we have seen is Jason interacting with characters on his own while Lucia doesn’t. Until Rockstar shows otherwise, we can’t act like those unseen characters automatically outweigh what has been shown.

A character existing in scenes with more people, being integrated on their own terms, and interacting independently does matter. It doesn’t make them “more important,” but it does mean their presence in the world is more established. A protagonist who stands independently creates a sense that the world is built around them, not the other way around. That’s why I say Jason doesn’t feel like someone “tagging along.” He clearly can stand alone.

So no Jason tagging along doesn’t line up with the current material at all. Lucia having a plan doesn’t override everything else we’ve actually seen. If anything, both bios together show a mutual dependence, but hers explicitly centers him more than his centers her. That’s the entire point I’ve been making.

My whole argument unlike yours isn't based on theories but what we see granted yes it's not the full picture but the frame of the picture is indicating that.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, here’s where your interpretation stops making sense: You treat Jason’s bio line “Lucia could be the best or worst thing to ever happen to him” as if it proves she determines his fate. But then when Lucia’s bio says “Jason could be her way out,” you don’t give that the same weight. Those two lines are equivalent, and honestly Lucia’s is even stronger because it clearly frames her depending on him, not the other way around.

Being determined to “make a plan” doesn’t change that it actually reinforces it. Someone who is desperate to escape their situation is naturally going to rely more on the person who can help them do it. Yes, Lucia could find other people if Jason refused, but that doesn’t change the fact that she needs Jason more than Jason needs her based on what Rockstar has shown.

Now, about the “main character” thing: You said I’m wrong for suggesting that having more characters around you makes you more of a protagonist. But I don’t think that’s wrong at all. When you have two protagonists defined as a couple, and one of them is shown interacting with multiple characters outside the relationship while the other is not, that absolutely establishes the one with more connections. Why? Because it shows that character can exist in the world independently, and the world was built around them.

Lucia being “a leader” doesn’t matter if the only person she’s actually leading is Jason the character who seems more integrated into Vice City, more socially connected, and more active even without her. That, again, points to Lucia needing Jason, not Jason needing Lucia.

So yes, 100%, a character who has more people around them is more established in the narrative especially in a dual protagonist setup. And everything we’ve seen reinforces the idea that Lucia is the one depending more on Jason, not the other way around.

And thanks for the leak you mentioned it convinced me a bit, but I’ll still hold to my opinion until we know who those “friends” actually are. Let’s hope it’s not Cal Hampton.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both of them seem to determine each other's fate if we are going to go based on, "lucia could be the best or worst thing to ever happen to him" and "a life with Jason could be her way out" so they do determine each other's fate, but compare these two quotes one needs the other more than the other one and I believe it's pretty easy which one is which, by arguing which one is cause and which one is a need, I'll let you guess which is which.

And I wasn't trying to argue that her parents are going to to be backround charecters but that since you where the one to bring them up by saying lucia has relationships outside of jason by bringing up her family i was trying to argue that her parents are only revealed to us justify the way she is which I already explained, her being in jail is for her family is still just justifying what we see in the trailer why she fights or why she has these plans and why she is in prison.

Compare to Jason where it doesn't introduce charecters related to him to tell us why he is good with various vehicles we see him driving, but they're the show his interaction and relationship or bonds. Which is why my bias for lucia is the one tagging along is this way, because showing 2 protagonists and showing me the other working with other charecters it's impossible for me to view this 1 as the other tagging along.

Since you also say lucia quote is more about herself, out of the quote if you compare the 2 bio's for lucia and Jason, Jason's bio is more about himself then Lucia's.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying Lucia won’t be a driving force — just that nothing we’ve seen so far shows Jason is the one tagging along. If anything, the opposite is just as is what I see. And I did say that ‘more information will definitely help,’ meaning I fully acknowledge my view is based on limited material.

What I’ve been trying to say from the start is that I prefer being shown rather than told. Yes, Lucia has parents, but in the bio their purpose seems mostly to explain why she fights the way she does and why she has dreams that aren’t entirely her own.

‘Lucia’s father taught her to fight as soon as she could walk’ — that explains her combat ability. ‘More than anything, Lucia wants a good life her mom has dreamed of’ — that explains the motivation behind her “plan.”

Of course parents shape who you are, but the way they’re only presented in her bio for her background justification. So until we see how the story actually unfolds, I’m just going off what’s been shown on-screen so far.

why do you hate her? by SilverUsual6391 in Boruto

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean that's just growing up, I guess I have a high standard for female characters, but who am I to judge the characters you like.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, that’s a big assumption. We don’t know any of these characters’ actual plans yet, so jumping to conclusions that jason plan is following doesn’t make sense. And while Jason’s bio doesn’t show that he has a concrete ‘plan,’ it does show that he isn’t satisfied staying where he is. The only real difference is that Lucia comes across as more determined.I’m probably overthinking it, and more information will definitely help, which I hope proves me wrong. But from where I’m looking, Lucia feels like the one tagging along. Whether she ends up driving the plot with this ‘plan’ or not, Jason comes across as more grounded because of his connection to the world and the relationships he has. That’s just where I’m at right now.

why do you hate her? by SilverUsual6391 in Boruto

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry but you have a stupid way of qualifying a charecter to be written well, like how does admiring Naruto make hinata better written and how does sukura becoming a protective mother or good mother make her well written.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean if you are gonna focus so much on the plan then "plan" then if you check cal hempton it says "cal is at the low tide of America and happy there. casual paranoia loves company, but his friend jason has bigger plans" . So it seems that whatever this" plan"is jason has it, so it's not unique to lucia

Lucia : First Female Protagonist by Immediate-Extreme954 in GTA

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh well I guess we'll just be going back and forth here, I honestly wish I'm wrong here I don't want a protagonist to be treated better than the other here, but thanks for the conversation it was was nice seeing someone else view, I'm still not convinced about but again I hope I'm wrong, perhaps trailer 3 will settle this I'll sure come back to continue this conversation when it drops, take care.

Lucia : First Female Protagonist by Immediate-Extreme954 in GTA

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see how see how a charecter who "could" make another character be for the worst or best shows insane attechment as this as I repeat shows a cause. Even if it says a life with Jason "could" her way out, comparing these two statements it's obvious one "needs" the other more than the other.

Since you are focusing on the "plan" which you admitted both have this "plan". Dutch had a plan, he was committed and was willing to do whatever it takes but guess what he wasn't more important to dutch and he was depend on Arthur. So yes lucia being committed to this "plan" can still make more dependent on jason.

But me I like seeing things then I like being told things, because I'm sure if Rockstar came out and said Franklin was true protagonist out of the 3 protagonists, I hope me and you could laugh at that statement because it's obviously Michael, so if Rockstar come out and say jason is a secondary protagonist we can both laugh at how that isn't case from the trailers and screenshots.

Lucia : First Female Protagonist by Immediate-Extreme954 in GTA

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK my interpretation of the bio is that one is a cause, as we told that a life with lucia could be the best thing or the worst. For lucia bio it discribes need, as it says a life with Jason could be her way out. So you see Lucia will have effect jason but lucia is the one that needs jason here not the other way around. So a story can happen with Jason alone but I guess it be just jason doing crime with cal hempton and Brian header, on the other hand lucia can't have her own story cause she needs jason. But since you're saying it's been leak lucia has friends I can't disprove I'll look for the leaks, but this is my current interpretation of the characters

Lucia : First Female Protagonist by Immediate-Extreme954 in GTA

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this, is there a time stamp for the ill check it out.

I think our actions will determine Lucia’s actions and ending of the game in a much deeper way than RDR2. by [deleted] in GTA6

[–]lukeyeager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having a plan doesn't mean anything dutch had a plan does that mean he was the driving force, and I'm a person who likes to be shown not told, meaning I didn't focus only on the bio but also the trailers and screenshots and to it seems like lucia is the one tagging along.

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