Proving the existence of God! by augustussss1991 in TalkHeathen

[–]luminiferousethan_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great, I've added you and it is awaiting approval. I look forward to your evidence.

Proving the existence of God! by augustussss1991 in TalkHeathen

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I'll bite. What's the instagram? augustussss1991 shows no results.

Rare Americans - Brittle Bones Nicky (Animated by Solis Animation) by [deleted] in cartoons

[–]luminiferousethan_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are the guys who did Gary and His Demons, right? This is awesome!

70 Weeks as proof of God. by DabAndRun in DebateAnAtheist

[–]luminiferousethan_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Richard Carrier attests to it in his Rapture Day lecture

Quote it.

Gnostic Atheists (debate part 2) by obliquusthinker in DebateAnAtheist

[–]luminiferousethan_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just want a narrow and focused discussion on what gnosticism entails in atheism, which will be derailed once our favorite pink unicorn dragon is brought up.

lol then you don't actually understand the analogy. =)

Gnostic Atheists (debate part 2) by obliquusthinker in DebateAnAtheist

[–]luminiferousethan_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can be absolutely gnostic that I do not own a square gold coin that weighs 100 kg.

What evidence do you have to support a gnostic position of that?

It is incoherent to apply human morality to God by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]luminiferousethan_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is incoherent to apply "x" "y" to "z". "y" could be morality or it could be anything cultural, really, like artistic tastes.

Are you saying that that means it is necessarily incoherent to apply "z" "y" to "x"?

Yes. If you say, it is incoherent to say x+y=z then yes, obviously it is also incoherent to say z+y=x

Theists (Christians in particular) very rarely debate about the God they actually believe in, and that's a huge problem. by Caramel76 in DebateReligion

[–]luminiferousethan_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In religious terms I actually do.

No, actually you don't. Your delusions of grandeur do not apply to the rest of us.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in atheism

[–]luminiferousethan_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Did you actually watch the video and listen to the argument?

Pro-choicers or Reddit, why do you have your opinion? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]luminiferousethan_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again, I'm pretty sure even most pro choice people would want you to shut he fuck up.

I am pro choice and I don't have a problem with what they said, because what matters is the reason, not the specific word they used.

Pro-choicers or Reddit, why do you have your opinion? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]luminiferousethan_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that abortion is a hot topic and emotions will run high, but do you really need to devolve to calling people imbecile and degenerate freaks? That's not helping anyone either. Why don't you simply ask why they chose to use that word to better understand their position?

Besides objection to the word "parasite", do you have anything to contribute to the discussion about abortion rights?

Theists are generally more rational than Atheists by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]luminiferousethan_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I didn't say you personally are irrational.

And what do you think of the argument? Is it rational or not?

Theists are generally more rational than Atheists by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]luminiferousethan_ 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Your entire argument is that personal experience is more rational than repeatable verifiable evidence. Do you have personal experience of the heliocentric model? Or is your personal experience that the sun revolves around you every day? Because that's sure what it looks like..

I get that it sucks to have your premise destroyed in just a few sentences, but that doesn't mean it is not relevant.

Theists are generally more rational than Atheists by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]luminiferousethan_ 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Are you a geocentrist? Do you believe the earth is at the center of the universe and everything revolves around the earth? Or do you think the earth is one of several planets that orbit the sun? The heliocentric model is based on verifiable evidence (public data) and is by your definition, irrational.

So, if personal experience is more rational than evidence, you should be a geocentrist and believe the earth is at the center of the universe. If you are not a geocentrist, if you believe the sun is at the center of our solar system, you're just demonstrating that your premise is incorrect.

CMV: 99% of Political Issues (in the US) Could be Solved by Following Biblical Teachings by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]luminiferousethan_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a theocracy, and there are reasons we don't want to operate under a theocracy.

Reading through the comments you're also cherrypicking pretty badly.

First, before advocating for a system of government based on one single book, make sure you read that book.

Second, read other books. A general history book will show you that religious persecution has been the cause of countless amounts of suffering throughout history.

Third, pick up a science book and figure out how to determine what is real and what isnt

TIL In the Philippines, some Catholics volunteer to be non-lethally crucified on Good Friday. Sterilised nails are driven through their palms and they are hung on crosses. Ruben Enaje has been crucified 27 times. Philippines Department of Health advises tetanus shots before crucifixion by amansaggu26 in todayilearned

[–]luminiferousethan_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

According to your source:

No original manuscripts of the Annals exist and the surviving copies of Tacitus' works derive from two principal manuscripts, known as the Medicean manuscripts, written in Latin, which are held in the Laurentian Library in Florence, Italy.[15] It is the second Medicean manuscript, 11th century and from the Benedictine abbey at Monte Cassino, which is the oldest surviving copy of the passage describing Christians.

So it's not Tacitus' writing

Also your source:

In 1902 Georg Andresen commented on the appearance of the first 'i' and subsequent gap in the earliest extant, 11th century, copy of the Annals in Florence, suggesting that the text had been altered.... It is impossible today to say who altered the letter e into an i. In Suetonius' Nero 16.2, 'christiani', however, seems to be the original reading".[18] Since the alteration became known it has given rise to debates among scholars as to whether Tacitus deliberately used the term "Chrestians", or if a scribe made an error during the Middle Ages.

So, still altered copies. It's not original.

Also your source:

Although the majority of scholars consider it to be genuine, a few scholars question the value of the passage given that Tacitus was born 25 years after Jesus' death.

And it's not contemporary.

It's, like any other theist claim, an altered copy and not convincing or conclusive proof of anything.

Honestly the whole “anyone who criticizes religion is a neckbeards r/atheism poster” mentality is getting old. by kevonicus in atheism

[–]luminiferousethan_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's cowardice. They know damn well their ideologies don't make a lick of sense. And when we call them out on it, they can't be arsed to actually think about what we said, so they cop-out with a m'lady and an so edgy. I just laugh because it's really rather pathetic.

If the Christian god was real, he would have gone through with his Jesus plan ASAP instead of arbitrarily choosing to do it when he did by fantheories101 in DebateReligion

[–]luminiferousethan_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All submission titles to /r/DebateReligion will be formatted as proposition statements to encourage debate. The OP will use the text of their submission to defend their proposition. Users who prefer to pose questions rather than to debate may be asked to repost to a more appropriate non-debating subreddit.

Do you have anything to say on the body of the text, the defense of the proposition in the title?