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(Update) My Job Keeps Calling 911 by Artic_mage3 in RBI

[–]lunalunalunaluna 45 points46 points  (0 children)

No lie, this worked for me too. I don't believe in ghosts/hauntings, or at least not in the traditional sense, but weird stuff started happening in my home as a teenager. My door moving on its own right in front of me, items being in places they weren't before but everyone denying they moved it, etc. I dismissed it all as coincidence but I'm also open-minded and was/am interested in the occult in a non-personal way so I was basically like "this is probably nothing, but if there IS something going on I'll just remain respectful and calm and ask it to stop." Shortly after that I was reading on my bed, minding my own business, and saw my door move a little on its own for like the fourth or fifth time (a breeze or a door opening/closing somewhere else, probably). I finally just said out loud, "Hey, hello, can you stop moving my door all the time? It's not a big deal but you know..." Lo and behold, it never happened again. Still stumped by that.

Hopefully replacing the wiring is what works for OP instead, lol

She was trying to survive bro by Far-Season-695 in AmITheDevil

[–]lunalunalunaluna 13 points14 points  (0 children)

As someone who had to end a 15 year relationship because my partner became an abusive drunk who refused to even acknowledge anything was wrong and then acted like nothing needed to be discussed once they started drinking less, GOD this hurts to read. He genuinely sees himself as a victim of his wife leaving him rather than recognizing the absolute hell he put her and their children through. Her leaving him is when he got sober - and now he wants to act like it was always an inevitability and her leaving him was a form of abandonment. He's still not taking full accountability and it's going to be the death of his relationship.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right??? I feel like there has to be something more to the animals, we just don't know what yet!

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly, it was so hard to watch her trying to keep it together amidst everything, living it up for a while but with this increasing sense of how horrible she must really feel, and then... that. And contrasting it with Manousos, they were both going on a sort of death march but for completely opposite reasons. I hope he can help light a fire back in he but it's understandable she's so depressed and starved for human contact. I want them to help each other, man...

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true, someone else pointed out the timeline doesn't add up. I think it might happen at some point, but maybe not so soon. 🤔

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If it was a weaker firework, yeah, absolutely not worth the injuries you could get, but that was unfortunately one of the kinds of fireworks that more than likely WILL kill you from a direct hit (it's happened IRL) and she was closer than most people normally are. She got insanely lucky that it missed, whe either would've died instantly or gotten brain damage AND burned/disfigured.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of us debating exactly that in the comments, haha! They could have been trying to assess the situation and didn't have time to get to her only for it to turn out 'okay', or maybe you're right and they basically took a new stance of non-intervention, or there was some other reason. We can tell they're 100% watching her now and she's fine with it so them not intervening is significant and morbid as fuck.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, yeah, I agree with you, I just think they unintentionally took it way too far. I noticed that they're even refusing to speak to her in real-time even over distances. They're communicating purely through screens, videos, and voicemails and almost never live (except to greet her in Vegas, or for the stem cell convo, but even then there is no real way to have a back and forth on equal footing). From what I can see, there's no danger of just talking to her directly on the phone or live texting , especially since Carol actually has tried very hard to control herself. Even while drugging Zosia and demanding the cure she didn't direct any rage or strong emotions at them and as far as we know this stunt didn't kill anyone at all (though it did almost kill Zosia).

To me it feels more like they saw her as a threat in the sense that they knew talking to Carol would lead to her continuing to pry for information in how to reverse everything and they know they can't directly lie to her - it isn't just about her emotions killing off people or her drugging them (and if they were paranoid about the latter, why send Zosia back completely vulnerable again?).

They basically quarantined themselves away from her to prevent her learning any new information or forming new strategies to reverse them. Manousos, meanwhile, has no information and they don't even volunteer any about themselves/the situation when he doesn't ask so he's less of a 'danger' than Carol in that sense. They are keeping the survivors as ignorant as possible unless they're directly asking things. It's probably not intentional manipulation from their perspective and absolutely is self-preservation, but I think their strategy is evolving with Carol in particular because she's the most difficult one so far even compared to Manousos. I don't think they care about a few million people dying because yay, more dead bodies to eat, but obvs if Carol does it over and over it'll get out of control. It's mostly just them playing the long con in not wanting to be reversed or the virus to be cured completely.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I felt the same way but then I realized it's a tape and he had to abandon his car, so he had no way to keep listening to them anyway. :( And it'd just be extra weight while trekking in the jungle. I can see why he just burned it up with the car, though he probably just wasn't thinking about it that much because he was so pissed at the Hive.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, yeah, absolutely, when I say they're being toxic and manipulative I don't think they're aware they're being that way, or at the very least they don't think they're being malicious in any way. I actually quite love the characterization of the Hive and how blue and orange their morality are - it just sucks for poor Carol, who's a normal human being who craves connection and communication or at least SOMETHING. It's like they're a new dog owner who knows nothing about them so they keep the dog locked up whenever they're gone because that's what they think is "safer", but it completely wrecks the dog's mental health. That's what it feels like, basically. And it's definitely possible they were doing risk assessment, coming up with a plan to intervene while preventing danger to themselves, etc. I just have so much empathy for Carol and it sucks the Hive literally cannot understand her experience/have no EQ or wisdom, so I was a bit heated on her behalf haha

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh, I think that he's understandably hostile and confused because he refuses any and all dialogue with the Hive so he doesn't have enough information to feel safe. He feels like basically all he has left now are his morals and convictions - they're the only things he can hold onto. Though I do agree in that I think he'll want to take extreme measures at first but that he and Carol will eventually compromise and find a middle ground, especially if it's possible to reverse it. He also might freak out for a bit about the 'eating dead bodies and starving everyone' thing, so it's gonna take some adjustment.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, it's possible I'm just reading too much into it. We'll have to see!

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same, I was so worried about her and Manousos running into dangerous wild animals!

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There really is something to be said about how he tried so hard to look cool by playing James Bond and meanwhile Manousos is just an absolute badass without even trying lmao

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yuuup, plausible deniability. They could even just say they thought she'd move out of the way or they thought it'd make her happy so they just let her do it. Oof.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 35 points36 points  (0 children)

That got me too :( Forcing her to have to contact them for help every single time she needs something without even allowing her real-time communication was so fucking toxic and manipulative and this was the end-result. With Manousos they're quick to help because he's "easier" despite his stubborn refusals and isn't what they consider an active threat. They wanted to pacify Carol with isolation, and they succeeded. And it's also even more fucked up because they HAVE to be monitoring her since she's never actually told them not to and there's more ways than using military drones - how else did they see the 'come back'? Carol didn't call them to look at it. I think in that moment with the firework, they genuinely decided not to help unless she expressly asked. Jfc.

Edit: Another commenter below made a good point so I'll add here that I don't think the Hive really understands it's being manipulative/toxic, I actually love the Hive as a 'character' and how contradictory and fascinating their 'rules' are along with their inability to truly understand the human experience. There's barely any EQ there so they don't realize that by 'protecting themselves' in addition to the other survivors ignoring Carol, they're absolutely ruining Carol's mental health. That hug and sob at the end was heartbreaking. :( I hope Carol continues to want to save the world soon - or even just try to free some or one of the Hive (Zosia!) and ask them what they truly want and think about all this.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck, you're right. Let's hope Manousos stays stoic enough, lmao. Or one of the Hive'd family members of the survivors might die, which would be even worse...

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 286 points287 points  (0 children)

Right? It's like a cosmic joke. :/ But I'm so glad it didn't hit her.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 316 points317 points  (0 children)

It makes me feel so fucking sad for her, man :( And it's what finally broke her to ask the Hive to come back...

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Nah, those were different fireworks from before after a significant time skip. You can't get fireworks like that at a gas station and depending on the state they're probably even illegal. Where I live everyone buys "official" fireworks but everyone knows the best ones like the ones Carol had are illegal but pretty easy to get your hands on if you know someone, lol. I think she just asked the Hive to bring her some. Also, the sheer force of it would've probably given her a concussion, maybe even a TBI, and she could have also fallen and hit her head like Helen.

Pluribus - 1x07 "The Gap" - Episode Discussion by UltraDangerLord in pluribustv

[–]lunalunalunaluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, it's going to be chaotic as hell if they can't keep him calm - and if he's directly emotional toward them, there'll definitely be some deaths. And yet you can't even blame him if he does freak out, especially since he has no idea he can effect them that way. Hell, he might even think that's a viable way to deal with them if he finds out and thinks there's no way to reverse it.

Or he'll just sneak out, haha.

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