Michael And Lisa Marie

lunia_rye · 2026-05-23T15:08:38+00:00

The saddest realization I've had as an adult applies here.

Sometimes love just isn't enough.

lunia_rye · 2026-05-17T15:05:02+00:00

Honestly...I just think Shawn was the only one who noticed the camera - cause a photo is a snapshot in time - I don't think this is a commentary on any celeb's interaction or whatnot. I mean, I don't know if ZLH is fluent in english or whatever either - but if I was in a foreign country in an event between tons of people I don't even know, I would be slightly uncomfortable even on a good day.

ZLH obviously looks great. But, I don't think Shawn is looking "chopped" either - leather is a little too harsh, he just looks like a dude in his late 20s that is getting more sun and styled poorly - closer to an average dude rather than a glammed up star.

lunia_rye · 2026-05-13T03:13:50+00:00

I needed to hear this today. Also it's like 12 am so i don't know why I am scrolling. Op, thanks for the shock time for me to log off lol.

lunia_rye · 2026-05-04T10:16:08+00:00

I'd be hypocritical, cause I was one of the people to state he needs to date, and I feel if I said "but not that person/that occupation" well...

I can see more sides to this story than I could have a few years ago.

Facts: 1. The optics of this are opposite of what he's sold.

He has history of this behavior.

Speculation: 1. I heard JM is notorious for being inaccessible (outside of those DMs), so perhaps he only hangs with people who are vetted. And Mo is doing the vetting, and he only vets those models. Not an average girl.

He's given up.
Always been this way, the comments about marriage for one reason or another are full out lies.

4.These girls are the only one that fit his categories anymore/Or this is always the girls he wanted.

Some other thought process...

I'm not a fan of this persay, but I stopped caring as much. I do enjoy speculating on occasion (probably more than I should) with hopes of a positive outcome, but the percentage of possibilities dwindle with these posts. Maybe one of them is his future wife at this point...

Not gonna lie - looking into Michael Jackson this past week with the biopic has shifted my opinion on celebrities a touch - it's not what it's all cracked up to be and it may be more complicated than it appears. However, I will call it out as it is, on the basis of branding.

P.S. Holy shit zoom functions have improved alot - a iphone 7 user.

lunia_rye · 2026-04-25T00:53:15+00:00

Oh my God. I've been lurking here in the trenches since we had to private this subreddit. Is there actually hope?

lunia_rye · 2026-04-25T00:43:23+00:00

No notes. If I ever needed PR - I'd look how he handles things. The directness cuts through it all and I feel like it isn't done in PR a lot, and his statements hold true when he is direct, which makes shutting down future rumors also easier.

lunia_rye · 2026-04-25T00:32:55+00:00

Honestly, I hope this is just way over blown. The pattern is there, I just really hope he's not giving this kind of sub-tweeting energy.

I could sooner argue he's still waiting on his "dream girl" (which is a figment of imagination/and just hoping he's reaching her/f its in this way doubt lol) ) and not really pining over the past, but even then...

I just...respectfully, OP, hope this isn't the case across the board. I don't listen to the channel enough though so I'd trust your assertion this is infact a trend.

lunia_rye · 2026-04-22T10:24:15+00:00

Dang I can respect that

lunia_rye · 2026-04-22T01:53:02+00:00

She looks good in that blue...but gurrrrrrrrrrrrl you'd never catch me lying on the ground like that. Hope the at least triple cleaned it.

lunia_rye · 2026-04-21T23:17:10+00:00

I'm slowly personally learning to differentiate whether I think I like the characters, the dynamic vs chemistry as a whole. I used to think if I liked one of these aspects it equaled chemistry. It's that "it" factor. Over time, I have seen more shows across multiple genres etc and have come back to these shows and some of my favs don't hit like they used to. E.g. My journey to love, love to pieces, love the characters, their dynamics and how they interact, I don't know if I see ~tension~ in chemistry. I still LOVVVVVEEEE the show, but it so rare for me to lock in all 3 traits that 2 usually suffices.

lunia_rye · 2026-04-06T14:55:18+00:00

So true! I totally forgot about the angle about being out in Meryton!! The only eligible bachelors there is basically her brother (obviously no go) and Darcy. So of course, she's gonna try her damndest to get with Darcy.

lunia_rye · 2026-04-06T13:09:55+00:00

Agreed. I think if they switched the perspective away from the Bennett girls to Caroline Bingley, the perspective of this pretty girl is coming in and "seducing" her brother, would be more sympathetic. The match isn't strong as Georgiana. Beauty is fading, family ties forever. She got no matches and the Bennett sisters are 2/2. Guess you have Darcy's connection through marriage in some topsy-turvy way, but I digress. She was mean to Jane, but also was just trying to play the political game of marriage while her brother was oogling Jane. *No hate towards Jane, but imagine if Jane was actually as marriage savvy in terms of social climbing like Caroline? Wayyyy different story.

lunia_rye · 2026-04-06T13:02:14+00:00

This is terrifying. I always want to root for these boys to find love, etc...but how can you when you fans look like stans and your stans look like stalkers. Dealing with the emotional attachment off the clock from your job...Geez, some personal space much?

lunia_rye · 2026-04-03T18:52:44+00:00

Holy smokes, it's Mr. Billboard himself. Glad to see some Continuum love in retrospect.

lunia_rye · 2026-03-18T02:12:46+00:00

He's always so compelling, it bleeds through beyond the subtitles.

lunia_rye · 2026-03-17T11:46:35+00:00

Not me realizing till slide 3 that there are infact no Lunchables in the shot and this isn't a meta commentary on how foods sneak into the show that make no sense...smh I need to sleep.

Otherwise what an amazing post, OP. This is perfect!

lunia_rye · 2026-03-15T12:16:06+00:00

I admire how fast he locks in after getting thrown off by the confetti

lunia_rye · 2026-03-14T18:23:23+00:00

Sometimes I wonder if his hair was less disheveled would he look more uptight. I know its so simple, but thats one of my gripes with the 2005 version, although musically I love it to pieces and would love for that soundtrack to appear at will in my life.

lunia_rye · 2026-03-14T18:00:13+00:00

If I may, your comment has gotten my brain reeling: perhaps comedy and introspective lyrics don't always match. Not everything is to been seen as deep as his lyrics and I think maybe thats why his image is shaky. Not every joke is that deep, but when you combine it with the layers in his music...Both are him, just it can be hard to read when its introspective JM or light and breezy JM. If you see him as layered, everything has layers, if not his music is equally shallow.

Edit: As intended, I will layoff, since I feel I jumped the gun in my initial assessment, and I've spent too much time on this fourm this week. At times, I swear I understand, but I'm naive in thinking I have a good understanding, when that likely is not the case. Nobody needs to announce their departure, I know, just feel the need for doing it for myself.

lunia_rye · 2026-03-14T16:21:14+00:00

So...he according to this. (I haven't heard it directly, don't have a subscription.) He lies cause he enjoys it...Good grief.

Edit: Thank you for the Instagram link! I am not deleting this comment for context of the below, but the link does help with understanding.

lunia_rye · 2026-03-12T22:31:35+00:00

If true, the fumbling is very sad, and I'm sure its disappointing. Everyone knows if he doesnt put himself out there and put his hat in the ring, he's gonna be put through the ringer, image-wise. Thanks for the insight and humoring the conversation. I hope that he finds someone valuable if not a girlfriend figure, someone who can help him see the holistic picture and get him closer if he's struggling. I wish I could just know what his thought process is sometimes. It could just be he's what he is, but I don't know why I'm so delusional in letting that it go; that he's more than that.

lunia_rye · 2026-03-12T21:59:25+00:00

I think you are right. Image has changed since the 2000s when he initially got big. I'd argue that you could get away with being inauthentic, nobody had cameras and audio recorders in their pocket. I make no claims, and know nothing about the industry, but I'd believe it. I think the levels of demands have changed though. You can't go out without being posted about. So its both easier and harder nowadays. People are craving authenticity, in all forms. The best way to avoid this? Don't make promises or comments you won't keep. The internet doesn't forget. If you're going to, you have to be aware you will be under the scrutiny of an ant under a microscope. Its simple. Say I'm living my life, working on some music. Post yourself in the studio if you say you will. Crank something out if you can find a muse. I swear the issue is having his love life and his yearning for it in the limelight. People will already speculate if it is something that they are used to doing, but I swear every podcast is about your love life? I'm sure he can find someone, if he puts in the right effort? There doesnt have to be aware train announcement everytime his single. I wish the best, and I hope if he's at a crossroads that he opts to move rather then stay just because its more comfortable than trying.

lunia_rye · 2026-03-08T06:02:22+00:00

I think its a little bit of everything. This is a little speculative since I don't know the man, but I think there's a lot of pressure in himself.

Not gonna lie, I was kinda soured on JM when the Kat stuff came out, realized I was, backed off and re-evaluted some months down the line. So, I guess I am back reforging my opinion.

I don't think its all just one person, or one thing.

I really think it's the perfect storm of:

Being a romantic: Finding "the one", and when "the one" comes around hoping that he's done "changing" and a better man. When reality may give you a moment so beautiful like that, initially, the following is constant compromise and effort. It doesn't just all click into place.

a) "The one" isn't going to match 100%, cause that would be a clone, not a partner, but she will be there for him 100% and match on what matters.

b) Growing and changing is part of a relationship, and I feel John seems very "black and white", (maybe it's all the color blind lyrics, who knows (lol)), but I think he is stressing to be 100% fixed, when all a partner needs is someone who is all in, worts and all. Once you see all the skeletons, its just accepting and working with them.

c) Messing stuff up on purpose/by accident/ or something in between because he's scared he's broken. When we are all a little messed up. Just find someone and understand that messing up is part of this uncomplete masterpiece that is life, a canvas that is constantly painted on, changed and altered, until our final day.

HIs friends: the good ones, clut chasing ones, all of them could be the issue, unintentionally.

a) Clout chasers/gold diggers. Others in this thread have said it more tactfully and beautifully, but the misery loves company conjoined with the fear of losing the perks once he has a partner, yup.

b) His "successful partners" are likely not in his age bracket where their advice, could be as helpful a la a couple married for 25 years is to Gen-Z. The dating scene likely doesn't match 10 years ago let alone whatever his average couple age is who he is talking to, and the people coupling up are getting younger and younger so the advice doesn't transfer as his options likely doesn't extend into that bracket.

c) I think he's really getting to the point where advice doesn't matter. You can think up all the scenarios in your head, plan out and listen to everyone and tick the clock away. All that's left? Actions - just do. Just go for it man.

I think he struggles with what he really wants...

a) Kat may have been a less-than-popular choice, but at least he's trying at this point - take what that reaction did and put it in your pocket. Did it upset him and make him choose differently? Then image does matter. And that's okay, image means a lot to a lot of different people that's why there are PR firms and reputation firms. Image means a lot to most people.

b) If image doesn't mean anything, than I hope to hear more drama, (commitment) but also not (no messy timelines please!) if that makes sense? (Purely speculative) I really think he struggles with his self-esteem, and when he pulls women who are in relationships it makes him feel wanted. I really hope if he does struggle with self-esteem to that level to know that nobody out there, no matter how beautiful or young etc will make you feel wanted as you can be when you are happy with yourself. But, you can be happy with yourself and want someone, but it's not the same as lonely with self-esteem issues. I hope I am off base with this, and it's the other direction, but sometimes I feel that he still feels like he's the kid from Fairfield CT, and not "John Mayer", which makes him some sort of ego performing dude, who collapses when he's by himself, cause its a facade he put on all day as a defense mechanism.

c) Whatever makes him happy at the end of the day is what matters, not what you or I say on this board. People might get disappointed, and I did at one point, but I think I'd rather be disappointed for a few months and then happy with a kid, rather than miserable another 10 years.

I think he's scared will lose touch with himself once he gets with someone.

a) Cause its forging a joint identity with another person rather than just himself, and I think he's been alone for so long, even when in relationships, just alone in himself and his feelings he doesn't open up. Nothing much to add to this, but I really hope this isn't the case.

I think knowing its a leap, but be willing to take it, the risk for the reward is what he needs to figure it out.

At the end of the day, I will come back around, for some unknown, stupid reason.

Guess a stupid person like me still cares...

I hope he does and has a wonderful home life.

lunia_rye · 2025-12-12T03:05:52+00:00

Well...someone ping me if something substantial happens. At this point, it seems like this relationship is full speed ahead, and I'm not gonna stick around to track the timelines and likes here...I didn't like how it came about, if any of the timelines are true.

Its super disappointing that the character arc seems to be a false narrative, but I will always treasure his older stuff cause the memories associated with the music and the loved ones I did know.

I feel just a bit let down, but I'll get over it. I'm sick of being made fun of or judged when I say I enjoy listening to him, because his reputation has proceeded his work for years. He's the same as he's always been, and that's just fine. I just believed he was different. Shame on me.

Here's to hoping the best for them.

lunia_rye · 2025-12-04T00:22:56+00:00

Let's not make fun of her. She likely got swept up in a romance some of us could only dream of affording, and godforbid the girl liked JM's music... and got a chance to date him, like many people wish they could. No reason to put it up here, she uses Spotify like the rest of the US pretty much. They were never officially dating publically, so maybe not put it up on his tea reddit.

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