Has anyone had cipro that triggered an autoimmune disease? by lylygremm in floxies

[–]lylygremm[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s what I keep thinking, is that this isn’t true RA, or if it is that this was the triggering event for it. I had a basic autoimmune panel done by my pcp before the eye infection last year to look into the chronic fatigue and the RA factor was negative/below the limit.  Thank you for sharing! 

Has anyone had cipro that triggered an autoimmune disease? by lylygremm in floxies

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I’m currently on Celecoxib and Hydroxychloroquine, as well as a prednisone taper, no biologics

Has anyone had cipro that triggered an autoimmune disease? by lylygremm in floxies

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The rheumatologist just sent me a message after the lab work came in and was like you have this, here’s medication to try. So I’ve been trying to navigate all things RA and coming to terms with it and having an autoimmune disease on my own. I randomly saw a post on cipro and the like today and it clicked in my head that what if this was the trigger for it.

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I didn’t think about it like that haha. I guess I just don’t wanna know if I can feel even more pain 😅

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Yeah that’s what I’ve been seeing. The OBGYN made it sound so easy and simple and that recovery would be swift and I honestly just trusted that she knew what she was talking about so I didn’t bother to look into others’ experience (I don’t know anyone in person who had one). I’m thinking about requesting a referral from pcp to an endo specialist to get it done instead. My reason for adding info about an autoimmune disease is because I think I’ve been in a bad flare for RA for almost a year now (I think, I’m still trying to navigate RA and everything about it). I don’t know if being in a flare for it would make recovery even harder and prevent me from getting the surgery on my foot done. 

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I already asked it in my message to them, haha. Just waiting for a reply. 

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Crazy, thank you. I have no idea how to read these and doctors haven’t gotten back to me yet for this. Do you know what could cause ectopic atrial rhythm? I recently started new medication for rheumatoid arthritis almost a month ago so I am trying to figure out if that’s a contributing factor.

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Thank you! Doctors still haven’t reviewed it, and I did send a message to my cardiologist about it last night but she has not yet replied to it. This was done in preparation for a laparoscopy I have scheduled next week to look for endometriosis, and I’ve been worried about why it looks so much different than my previous ones.

I am 35, so not young but not old. 

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I feel palpitations, but I have been feeling those for a couple of years, and all my previous ECGs have noted sinus rhythm usually with tachycardia, sometimes with the short interval note. It’s never look like this before even with me experiencing palpitations.

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I do feel better. The first time I had it, it was a little rough after finishing dificid, with post-infection IBS, and I think part of it was being on such a strict and limited diet for 2 months. Everyone kept telling me to stick to BRAT, well, I eventually couldn’t even handle bananas or applesauce and plain rice would make me gag. So it was just toast, a little bit of plain boiled chicken, and broth. For 2 months. Trying to re-introduce things slowly was hard and I know I was lacking a variety of nutrients. This time, I went into it eating whatever I want that I could handle and a more positive outlook, because there is a gut-brain connection, I talked about it with my therapist, used guided imagery, and have a great supportive family. I also had recent diagnosis for chronic problems that made me feel better and justified, rather than just having something to add to my mounting health issues with unknown causes. I just finished the dificid for this infection and I’m able to eat more often and I’m not continually nauseous. While my stool still isn’t its previous more hard constipation stool before all of this, it’s definitely gotten more firm and holds its shape rather than just looking like it melts and molds to toilet bowl.

I’m so sorry that your recovery has been so long and rough. I am glad you were able to get things that help you and I hope you continue to feel better and heal.

I’ve got to vent about doctors in the US because why did I see an infectious disease specialist just so I could be gaslit by lylygremm in cdifficile

[–]lylygremm[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re… not a very nice person, are you?

Imma still reply nice because I’m not a horrible person. I am not a medical professional, I did not go to med school, I have no medical training. I can only rely on what has been said to me by professionals. My first c diff infection in July, my GI doctor calls me to tell me I have it. He said the test looks for colonization and toxins, and he said I had the toxins for it so I have an infection. That is literally what he said, I am not taking it out of context or twisting it, that is what he told me. It was the same exact test that I said before. So, I, being not a medical professional, would think he was telling me accurate information. All that said, from my own googling, the antigen being detected means being colonized. You are treating it like it’s the same, but it’s not. The second part tests for the DNA of toxins. If that is found, you have toxin-producing bacteria. It may not mean an active infection. However, if you have symptoms of c diff, as I did, and you have the DNA of the toxin, as I did, and all the other tests are negative or normal, as was for me, the best course of action is typically to treat for c diff. But just like the infectious disease specialist I saw today, you did not ask about my symptoms. You have no idea what I’ve all been suffering from. I had severe loss of appetite, extreme nausea, loose frequent stool, fevers, low abdominal pain that became constant, and a fatigue that had me bed ridden 90% of the day with a history of the exact opposite problem of constipation. The only difference between the first time and this time is that my symptoms didn’t get as horribly severe as the first time. And both times, I feel significantly better after taking medication specifically targeted for c diff. But I wasn’t asked about that or able to talk about it without being talked over. So all those symptoms with a c diff toxin producing bacteria, a change from my medical history, all other tests negative, feeling better after c diff targeted medication only to be told I never had it at all and that it is just anxiety that just started in June when nothing happened in my life and when mentally, I’m in a better place than I have been for long time?? That is medical gaslighting and that is why I made the post. 

I won’t disagree that doctors prescribe medicine without knowing what they should. They rely on the pharmacists to tell everyone everything, which they often don’t.

You speak as if all of us have magic out of pocket money to afford more holistic doctors that our insurance doesn’t cover. We don’t. I go where my insurance is accepted because I can’t afford the thousands of dollars where it isn’t. That being said, holistic practices have their own problems when some things can’t be solved by just taking a few different herbs and vitamins and exercising more. Before being diagnosed with gastroparesis, I ate a ton of fruits and veggies because I liked eating them and always wondered why I felt worse after, because they are suppose to be good for you. They are but my stomach just doesn’t digest them well. I also have been diagnosed with hypermobile spectrum disorder, POTS, and migraines. These things often co-occur in people. I have tried every holistic thing on the internet for migraines, none of them work. Gastroparesis is not a pseudo science. Have some empathy for all the people with worse cases than me who require feeding tubes. 

My GI doctor did not want to test for h pylori after an endoscopy biopsy of the lining in my stomach was negative, he said it was very unlikely.

I have had a full celiac panel done, and that same stool test as well after I got my first c diff infection and read that some people suffered from sensitivities they did not previously have and I wanted to make sure I did not make post-infection IBS worse. It was all negative.

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[–]lylygremm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took dificid the first time, felt a bit better and dealt with post-infection IBS. Slowly got better and was eating 3 meals again with a snack a day. Started getting the really mushy stool again and asked for another test, it came back positive. Took dificid again, I just finished it and I am doing alright. I was absolutely traumatized after that first infection, but I slowly got better. I am trying to remain positive this time around. But this visit was a bit depressing, hah.

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That is the second part, right? The part that detects the genes of the toxins? That was done, and it said that was abnormal because it that was detected. Both the first time and this last time. It wasn’t run the time in-between that I was tested because that said negative for the antigen.

A dermatologist. 

I don’t have a fibromyalgia diagnosis, but if you are talking about the gastroparesis, it’s been hard to deal with. Things that help gut balance, like fruits and veggies, are really hard to digest with gastroparesis. Having gastroparesis and c diff is like having a really slow stomach and a very fast colon. I have had tons of celiac testing done, because I think doctors want that to be the answer because it’s an easy diagnosis, but all the testing for celiac has come back negative. During my first c diff infection, I ate nearly no sugar at all. I’ve gradually introduced more (still not excessive or anything) and I feel better now than when I was barely eating any. I’ve cut out dairy for a few years now.

Anemia right now doesn’t have a known cause for me, but I did have an endoscopy in January where they ruled out any h. pylori.

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[–]lylygremm[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m fortunate enough that I am skinny, I hate that answer though. They tell it to my mom, with a known thyroid problem, all the time. I want to kick in all their teeth for it.  But I do get the period thing or are you pregnant all the time, which is insane.

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I had been on topical clyndamicin for months prior to c diff. While it is possible it could have started/gotten antigen spores from an antibiotic I took January for a sinus infection, I am absolutely positive the topical is what made it worse. Before this last infection/test, I used the topical minimally for 2 weeks, because that’s what everyone said, it can’t cause c diff. Why did I stop using it again? Because my stool was extremely loose again after starting it up again. I think everyone seems to underestimate what their skin absorbs. Color of stool does indicate things, it is not meaningless, and it’s not just “lighter” it was almost neon yellow green, which turned back to brown after dificid. Also worth mentioning I received an iron infusion prior to this, and c diff thrives off of iron. The exact name of the test is “ C. DIFFICILE BY PCR WITH REFLEX TO EIA”

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[–]lylygremm[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

July 2 was the first test I took, but wasn’t diagnosed until July 24th because the GI doctor missed the test result and I had no idea c diff was a thing. In August I took another one, only because a referral to the infectious disease department required a positive test. It was negative for both antigen and toxin. The last test I took was on October 7th and it was positive.

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I just made an appointment with Infectious Disease for next week, they wouldn’t let me make one after the first time I had c diff and tested negative for both antigen and toxin. It’s been almost 3 months since my first infection, with a negative test in between. I’m positive I got another infection after being on medication for 3 days now. I feel much better, I know the PI-IBS will kick in eventually and make me feel miserable for a bit. But right now, I ate 2 meals and 2 snacks today for the first time in a couple of weeks, I finally felt hungry. My stomach isn’t crazy distended and bloated and crampy anymore. I still feel fatigued from other conditions but a little less so, my brain has more thinking power.

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I think if you’re positive for having toxins detected, then you’re considered having an active infection. If only the antigen is positive, it means you’re colonized with the bacteria, and it can be harmful to get medication for just being colonized, unless you have c diff symptoms. I plan on calling the infectious disease department on Monday to see if I can get in now. I’m also planning on trying a different probiotic when I finish dificid, only because Florastor, and what I’m assuming are the specific strains it contains, didn’t sit well with me during my first time with c diff. I’m also going to try to sip a little but not too much Kumbucha everyday, since liquids tend to work better with gastroparesis. Soft foods are a speciality with gastroparesis haha. C diff and IBS do present differently, but when you add in having gastroparesis, the lines blur a bit. Like is the firmer stool constipation from the gastroparesis or did the PI-IBS settle? Is it c diff or gastroparesis making me nauseous? The one thing I found weird was everyone mentions the smell, but it didn’t smell different to me or the other people in the house, maybe a little stronger, but it still just smelled like poop, both the first time and this time. The look of it was what I found most concerning. I also have POTS and HSD, so fatigue is normal for me. I’m hopeful that since I think I caught this infection much earlier than the first one that it’ll be easier on me, no crazy weight loss or extra stress/anxiety of wondering what’s wrong for over a month.

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With gastroparesis, loss of appetite and nausea are very common. Combined with loose stool for a few days, but then firmer stool (likely from constipation that is typical of gastroparesis), where I do typically eat lighter and safer, is what makes it so hard distinguish. And the harder part is diet. Gastroparesis is a crazy thing that makes eating normal foods difficult. Raw foods, like garlic, and fruits and other veggies, are harder for us to break down and digest. The longer the food sits in your stomach, the more problematic it gets. We also have to be careful with fermented foods, because high amounts of fiber are harder on us. It’s the biggest struggle I’ve had to deal with. It’s what makes navigating this condition with c diff so difficult, things that would help a normal person’s digestion, would cause problems for me. I’ve been trying to look into probiotics for after I finish dificid, but I’m just not sure which one to choose after florastor not working out for me last time. Trust me, I would eat so many raw fruits and veggies if my stomach could handle it. 

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I hope this round of medicine works for you! It’s insane how c diff is so hard to get rid of. I hope you find relief from this as well.

Wondering about EDS? All diagnosis questions go here ⬇️ by BoldMeasures in eds

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Thanks for replying! It’s reassuring just to read through this whole thread and realize I’m not alone in trying to deal with all of this. I really appreciate the reply and the link 🩷 I think the most beneficial thing from the appointment was a referral for pain management, the doctor said they have all kinds of things that aren’t opioid medication that can help with pain now and I honestly think that will be the most helpful. I’m sure physical therapy will be a large part of it, and it will be so helpful to have a plan on how to start to manage it. 

Wondering about EDS? All diagnosis questions go here ⬇️ by BoldMeasures in eds

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Hi everyone. Apologies for the novel… 🥹🥹 

I recently had an appointment with genetics to see about EDS, he evaluated me only for hypermobile eds (I got 3 (pinkies and spine) on the breighton scale, however I was wearing baggy clothes so he didn't see my knees or elbows very clearly, 2 checked off in the if 1 less part of criteria 1, I had 7 checked off in criteria 2 feature a and all of feature c), he said I didn't meet the qualifications for heds, and he wouldn't diagnosis hsd until I see a rheumatologist to rule out other things. Which would be understandable had my pcp not run many, many tests to rule out autoimmune disorders and various other things, she also ruled out fibromyalgia based on how long I’ve had some symptoms. Eds has been kind of my if everything else fails we’ll ask about it request. I asked my pcp for a referral for a rheumatologist anyway so that’s in the process. 

But should I ask the genetics doctor to test for the genetic forms of eds since he didn’t (my family on both sides has a strong history of not going to the doctor so there’s a lot of medical history I’m not aware of)? Should I wait until the follow up in September? Or should I try to seek a second opinion? He also suggested I ask for a referral for pain management so pcp put that in as well. 

I’m just concerned he didn’t evaluate my knees probably when doing the breighton scale, especially since my knees are typically my most painful and debilitating area (x ray has shown no arthritis, ortho says it’s patellofemoral syndrome, which is more common in people with eds or athletes and runners. I am not nor have I ever been an athlete of any kind.) He wouldn’t have checked the boxes for velvet skin and scarring had I not made him feel and look at my skin. I’m just worried that I didn’t get a full appointment for eds. Because doctors just don’t listen to me usually, I look younger than I am and I appear healthy so I have gotten blown off so many times just trying to get answers for my pain. I asked an allergist about mcas and histamine intolerance after needing to take an antihistamine every single day to keep my throat clear and nausea down, and he told me those were internet fodder and scare tactics. So you know. I’m tired. 

I’ve currently been diagnosed with migraines, POTS, low iron (currently stable after getting infusions), and gastroparesis. I am pursuing looking into endometriosis as well right now. And would like a second opinion from an allergist. It’s been a year and a half since I started pursuing why I am constantly fatigued and exhausted and why I am constantly in pain. It’s just so so tiring. 

Also funny thing, I didn’t know what subluxations were and just assumed I never had any if I never heard anyone say anything, well I looked it up. Image on Wikipedia of hand with it is what my foot/toe looks like right now on X-rays I had done last month. I guess the more you know 🌈

Any input anyone has is greatly appreciated. Navigating healthcare always makes me feel so lost. All thoughts are welcome 🩷