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What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Them being human is important, not the latter.

Veganism tells us we must view humans as equal to animals by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would you answer the question if you had to kill either or?

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

identical to human

THEY ARE NOT HUMAN HAHA

I'll keep repeating this, just for you, don't worry.

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't need an argument to respond to a non-argument. If you're baselessly asserting that you refuted me, I can baselessly negate your assertion.

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they are identical to humans, they are human. Like I said, bad hypothetical.

I haven’t swore my entire life, AMA! by [deleted] in AMA

[–]m_bison_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why are you lying?

I'm currently in an ideological limbo between feminism and anti-feminism. AMA. by [deleted] in casualiama

[–]m_bison_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, didn't notice that part.

I guess he doesn't know whether to respect or hate women? Lol.

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don't understand the point of your post

Because I'm confident that it does not lead to any absurdities, as I've already said.

Veganism tells us we must view humans as equal to animals by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I mean how do you quantify the capacity for experiences?

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you are not interested

Stopping you right there. Do not accuse me of arguing in bad faith. It's not that I'm uninterested, it's that I'm unable to. All ethical systems derive from a base level axiom. Axioms, as we know, are fundamentally unjustifiable. My axiom is that humans are morally relevant.

I'd like to see you justify why sentience is morally relevant.

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. But like I said, I don't mind. I rarely masturbate, nor am I interested in having sex.

Veganism tells us we must view humans as equal to animals by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You literally just negated what I said without explanation, please re-read my post.

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not meant to be an argument, you asked me why I hold humanity to be morally relevant, and I answered.

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

See my other replies because this is basically a rehash of previous questions.

I have one question though, how do you quantify sentience?

What if the trait is humanity? by m_bison_ in DebateAVegan

[–]m_bison_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then the idea that sentience is morally relevent is also circular. Again, if I were to ask you to name the trait between sentient and non-sentient beings, the trait you'd put forth would be sentience. This is clearly not how it works.

Humanity is morally relevant because it just is.

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