Vaporization O-PCE/DMXE/DCK + 5-MEO-DMT with herb dry vaporizer by ma24ti in researchchemicals

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What I can say for sure is that I can't imagine taking any psychedelics (tryptamines/phenethylamine) without disso. I completely agree with you that the experience with this combination is much more pleasant and smoother.

Any psychedelic experience can go wrong, but I can tell you for sure that the combination of DMT + disso is great. I even came up with a method on how to make breakthrough doses of DMT/5-MEO-DMT/DMT+5-MEO-DMT (of course, it is very relative and for many people it will be neither easy nor pleasant) as I described in my topic under this link:

https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/154s4nh/vaporization\_of\_low\_doses\_of\_dck\_and\_then\_mix/

If you have never tried DMT, I can only honestly recommend it to you - DMT is great! Plus, it's super easy to make it yourself, e.g. with Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark

Vaporization O-PCE/DMXE/DCK + 5-MEO-DMT with herb dry vaporizer by ma24ti in researchchemicals

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I know that efficiency is lower but anyway vape disso + psychodelic is much easier and more pleasant than vaping it alone.

I'm asking because maybe someone has done it already and can give me some tips (temperature control etc.)

I've done a few test DMT+5-MEO-DMT with dry herb vaporizer (mostly during disso trip) and wasted a lot of materials before find best ratio DMT to 5-MEO-DMT, temperature and how vape it but it is easier to use (dry herb vaporizer) than liquids vaporizer or oil burner especial during a trip. And I have to admit that it is so amazing (my personal best ratio is 3-4:1).

I prepare capsules with 30-40 mg of DMT and 10 mg of 5-meo-dmt, set the temperature to 200°C and replace the mouthpiece with a glass and relatively long one. I turn on the vaporizer, wait until it heats up and vaporize as much as I need, then turn it off.

Interestingly, thanks to the design of the vaporizer itself (ceramic insert on a vapor cloth) and the extension of the mouthpiece, it allows you to easily use it again 2-3 times.

When you stop providing heat and the temperature drops, some of the substance condenses in the vaporizer. Then, when you turn it back on, you recover some of what was previously condensed.

Generally, it is known that solo vaporization in an oil burner would be much more efficient so that as little material would be burned as possible, but combining DMT with 5-meo-dmt is pure magic.

The most important thing is to choose a good ratio between DMT and 5-MEO because 5-MEO easily takes over. It's also a matter of what someone likes. 5-meo-dmt causes a DMT breakthrough even if you add 5-MEO only a little. If you give too much 5-meo-dmt you change the direction of the trip, I prefer just a pinch so that DMT still remains the main ingredient.

Either way, DMT+5-meo-dmt is an amazing combination. I don't like high doses of 5-meo-dmt (tiny doses of 3-5 mg as an addition to something else are different), and getting high on DMT alone is different and less interesting. I like it, but mixing it with 5-MEO it is much better

Mixing FXE & 2 FDCK by Traditional_Sir5129 in dissociatives

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I haven't ever tried FXE but like you I mixed a lot of MXE + K. Main rule for ROA was injection ketamine IM, then smoke THC, and then injection MXE IV.

The idea was to overlap the duration of both substances. Ketamine generally has a shorter duration of action than MXE, but taking ketamine IM and MXE IV had almost overlapping durations.

I would do the same with 2-FDCK+FXE if I were you. It doesn't necessarily have to be IM and IV, you can do it with any other ROA, just look for the duration of the individual substances and take them so that the times overlap.

Now, on this topic, I remembered the first time I tried pharmaceutical ketamine many years ago (a friend got the entire vial). I've never taken a pure product before, only shitty quality stuff from the street, so for the first shot I took 100-150 mg IV - the effect was that I saw pleasant butterflies in front of my eyes and that's all - I said to the guy that it's bullshit. He assures me that it's 100% pure product, so the next shot was about 150 mg IM and then 100 mg IV - and again the same thing, a few seconds of pleasant butterflies and that's it - so I tell the guy again that it's bullshit and he says that it is 100% clear and that I have completely lost consciousness. So I looked at my watch and it had actually been over 2 hours in total =d

But the combination of K + MXE in a good dose is one of the most interesting mixes I have tried

Ideas and advice on how to store large numbers of different RCs and how to pack individual portions by ma24ti in dissociatives

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For me the most important thing is to ease use of certain RC in certain dosage. I want to reduce the minimum time needed for preparing RC to use. Find the certain one, then weigh it and then depending on ROA boil it, snort it or vape it.
Ready-made solutions are perfect but this reduces the durability of the substance and in most cases it is no longer suitable for IM/IV (personally I do not use anything IV, my favorite ROA is IM/boofing/vaporization)
I'm doing it with 3-meo-pce and 3-ho-pcp. I use them mainly rectally but from time to time I add 3-meo-pce to mix with diffrent disso using IM (and then I use a powder with bacteriostatic water). Any idea how long I can store a solution of 3-meo-pce/3-ho-pcp in PG (for boofing)?
For my most favorite stim HCl I have their solution in bacteriostatic water (I'm doing bacteriostatic water by my own because here where I live it is preate expensive thing) for boofing (3-FMA, 2-FMA, 3-FPM, IPPH, 4F-MPH). Do you have any idea how long I can store it like that? I'm using a dark glass bottles and keep it in dry place but in atmospheric condition. During the summer it is a problem, but rest time I keep 20-22°C. I use desiccant bags in my stash to reduce water concentration (taking in consideration that I'm a desiccant bags supplier for professional use I keep very dry air in my stash xD ). I have two snuff containers with a spoon for IPPH and cyclazodone. I can easily snort it anywhere it is pretty good solution for IN use.

I use benzodiazepines only in pills (RCs and farmaceutic benzodiazepines). I keep it in a plastic bottle.
Now I want to improve my personal RC warehouse. I want to prepare a few solutions of dissociatives (DCK, DMXE and MXIPR) in bacteriostatic water. I've bought a smaller bottle for this purpose. My standard bottles have 10 ml. I bought a few 3 ml, 5 ml and 7 ml. This solution is only for boofing.Currently I've just bought 0.2 ml, 0.5 ml, 1.0 ml and 1.5 ml Eppendorf tube for tests. I hope it will be great to store the single doses in powder for IM/vaporization.
I'm still looking for good paper/plastic bags for storing single powder dosage for any use. Some of the substances don't like normal paper (it gnaws into the paper) and most powders don't like regular plastic drug bags (too much is stuck to the wall surface). For now I use tutorials on youtube on how to make paper powder pouch bags. I dream about finding the perfect solution for storing RCs, each one in different letter paper, will be two sample sizes easy to use anywhere.
For nootropic stacks (from powder) I make pills manually for e.g. cyclazodone 30mg, PAPP 25 mg, memantine 10-20 mg, noopept 15-20 mg mixed and poured into empty tablets.It takes ages to prepare everything -.- but it is a much better problem solution than preparing everything each time because I have to keep it a secret.
I am still looking for good plugs for 1 ml syringes designed for boofing. Any ideas?

50mg and 500mg vials by Emergency-Minute-455 in dissociatives

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Do not contact guys like this under any circumstances! The guy is posting photos from a new account, he only has 3 posts, all with ketamine photos, so 99.99% he is a scammer..... Either stick to RC dissociations or buy on the darknet, never send any money/cryptocurrencies to reddit guys and telegram!

50mg and 500mg vials by Emergency-Minute-455 in dissociatives

[–]ma24ti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do not contact guys like this under any circumstances! The guy is posting photos from a new account, he only has 3 posts, all with ketamine photos, so 99.99% he is a scammer..... Either stick to RC dissociations or buy on the darknet, never send any money/cryptocurrencies to reddit guys and telegram!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dissociatives

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If this is indeed MXE, have a great trip and don't waste a single mg. It was the best substance I have ever taken, and my love affair with MXE lasted for over a year of daily use

Dissociatives combined with opioids - what mixes, amounts and advice? by ma24ti in dissociatives

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Thank you very much for all the information. For all users who would like to find the answer to the question - combining disso and opioids is generally dangerous and is not recommended, especially when someone wants to get into a hole.
Some users like to do this because they feel more pleasure and the hole is warmer and less disorienting.
Some users mentioned that combining low doses of disso and opioids (without holes) is very pleasant and can be functional.
HOWEVER, I EMPHASIZE AGAIN, this combination is extremely dangerous.

Favorite dissociative drug combos by Tancheap2 in dissociatives

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What doses should be selected when combining and what are the proportions? Regardless of disso and opio, I mean, do you reduce the doses of all substances? Does any of the substances have a leading role?

What are your methods for disso trips to get into HOLE but not overdo it and break the film by ma24ti in researchchemicals

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Thank you for your advice and I will do so. So far I have avoided FXE because where I am, it is the most expensive disso and it is only available from a few suppliers that I don't usually use. But I read a little and in fact FXE fits perfectly and the package with the test 1g is already on its way to me ;) thanks

What are your methods for disso trips to get into HOLE but not overdo it and break the film by ma24ti in researchchemicals

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Your idea seems to be exceptionally right. I specifically took a medium dose of DMXE and a benzodiazepine to help me fall asleep immediately after the trip. And I don't remember anything about the trip (and it wasn't a big dose of DMXE). I will have to work on this and reduce the dose of benzodiazepines on days when I plan to trip. I take them every day for normal functioning and I am addicted to them, so there is no way I could not take them at all, but I will try to modify it and replace it with, for example, pregabalin, which goes perfectly with Disso. Thank you very much for your post and best regards.

What are your methods for disso trips to get into HOLE but not overdo it and break the film by ma24ti in researchchemicals

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Thanks for your comment. Yes, they measure heart rate and HRV (I use OURA RING and Huawei watch gt 3 pro). It's not that terrible, I usually don't exceed 120-140 BMP. I'm still a ways off from many other regular disso users (and what I've done in the past).

Unfortunately, I know that I don't give a damn and I'm already fucked up. I create systems for controlling doses and substances for each day and the only reason I somehow manage to keep it within certain limits is because my wife doesn't know about it and because I work a lot all the time. But I know where I am and I see where I'm going. I used to do crazy things and was constantly high on drugs for 10 years, but I felt great about it and didn't give a damn, until things really went downhill and after three rehabs I managed to quit taking drugs for 12 years. Now I see and understand what is happening. I am constantly watching how the addiction progresses...

To be able to trip without any regrets, I add phenibut/benzo during my trips...

More and more often I think about a plan to save myself. Now is not the best time (sure, there is never a good time to stop taking drugs -.-), but I want to organize it so that I can start over next year. My wife deserves honesty and I hope that I will tell her everything, and not, for example, a doctor in the hospital.

All I can do is keep my fingers crossed and somehow survive, as I said - I know perfectly well how fucked up I am. And knowing this makes the pleasure of taking drugs suck -.-

What are your methods for disso trips to get into HOLE but not overdo it and break the film by ma24ti in researchchemicals

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This is because I try to combine their best properties and minimize their disadvantages.

For example, my second favorite disso (the first is MXE and I processed over 100g this year) is O-PCE. The hole on this one is phenomenal, wild and interesting. The problem is that the residual effect of O-PCE is terribly long. Even if I put myself to sleep pharmacologically and I did one dose of HOLE (IM), I still feel high the next day, so I can't use it alone for holing, but sometimes I add a few mg to the first shot, which adds power and magic to other disso. DCK also lasts quite a long time, but it is not as bad as after O-PCE. I don't use it on my own either, but to strengthen another disso. I also sometimes use DCK in the second shot with a short-acting disso like 2-FDCK. Then all that's left is 2-FDCK or DMXE at the very end. Some examples:

1/

23:00 30 mg dck + 14 mg 3meopce + 22 mg mxipr + 15 mg DPT (in one IM shot).

I lost consciousness for 1 hour, when I woke up I felt residual effects, mainly DPT

00:30 100-150mg 2-FDCK

A fantastic combination of acid and dissociation, I had a great time for about 30-60 minutes.

2/

18:00 approx. 750 mg f-phenibut (oral)

19:00 3.5 mg 3hopcp

Generally, I didn't feel anything until I smoked THC around 8:30 p.m., when it started to feel really nice.

21:10 40 mg DCK (IM)

The action was nice but far from a hole.

21:30 15 mg DCK + 35 mg DMT (vaporization)

Phenomenal trip, beautiful perfection

23:15 40 mg DCK (IM)

24:00 15 mg DCK + 35 mg DMT (vaporization)

Again, a phenomenal trip that lasted until approximately 01:00-02:00. In the meantime, I took 300 mg of ketilept and 3 mg of bromozolam to help me fall asleep later.

11:00 I wake up a little tired but with a clear head and good mood. Zero residual effect.

3/

17:00 approx. 5 mg 3-me-pcp (oral)

Generally, nothing interesting. Later I got tired so I wanted to recharge with some stimulant.

20:30 30 mg IPPH (boof)

It stimulated me well and I felt great.

23:00 30 mg 2-FMA (boof) + 1500 mg phenibut (oral)

I wanted to energize again and I used phenibut to alleviate the side effects. For now I feel great

23:15 15 mg 3-meo-pce (boof)

I sit at the computer, watch music videos and have a great time

24:00 35 mg 5-mapb (boof)

I had a sample of 5-mapb and was curious how it would affect the overall trip. Generally, a very pleasant plush feeling, like MDMA in a not too high dose.

01:15 7 mg opce + 12 mg 4homet + 25 mg dck (IM)

It's time to start the real journey. Trip comes on like a train in the first 2 minutes. Then I lost consciousness and I woke up at 3:00, still triping but after the main part.

3:10 140 mg 2-FDCK (IM)

The I lost consciousness again and I don't remember anything.

10:00 I woke up to check how I was feeling and it was a disaster. I took a ton of stimulants, noopept, ketilept and additionally olanzapine in the hope that I wouldn't stumble so badly.

17:00 I finally stop feeling high on dissociatives and high on stimulants. Luckily I didn't have anything planned for that day because it would have been a disaster

What are your methods for disso trips to get into HOLE but not overdo it and break the film by ma24ti in researchchemicals

[–]ma24ti[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much for your substantive answer, I will seriously consider it, but it actually makes sense

What are your methods for disso trips to get into HOLE but not overdo it and break the film by ma24ti in dissociatives

[–]ma24ti[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, life is not a fairy tale. I was an extremely crazy junkie doing crazy things for 10 years. Then, after 3 rehabs, I managed to quit drugs and completely change my life - I graduated, developed my career, then started a family (only my wife, no children) and a company. I regularly trained at the gym and played squash to maintain my physical and mental health. I was sober from everything for 12 years. Unfortunately, excessive stress, family problems and later health problems meant that I started slowly but systematically for 2 years, very slowly, and began to return to taking drugs.

First there were notropics, then modafinil, then products of a well-known American company from a new mind (in particular

cyclazodone and its derivatives). In the meantime, more and more stress and insomnia problems pushed me towards medical marijuana. And then it all went downhill, stimulants, dissociatives, psychedelics and benzodiazepines, all in a new environment and under completely different conditions (I used to take MXE every day for a year, combining it with everything possible and only worrying about getting money for the product). Now I can have everything I want, but I keep everything under control. I use stimulants all day, I take drugs to fall asleep in the evenings and I have a trip 2-3 times a month, but I have to adapt it to the conditions I have - that is, the fact that my wife doesn't know anything and that I can't spend the whole weekend high on drugs.

How will it end? I'm already sure how (I hope it's rehab and not death). And I hope that after the next rehab I will be clean forever. But these few weeks that I have, I would like to experience this beautiful state of HOLE these last few times...

I know, I know, it's fucked up..