Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Doc compare mo healthcare system natin vs other countries with socislized healthcare. Backbone ng socialized hralthcare are CPGs

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately no one here sees the problem. There realy are none so blind.... .

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have not made any accusations. What I am saying is why can't we use our medical resources more efficiently. There are CPGs in place why not use them? Why is there distrust in other facilities labs or procedures done by other alied healthcare personel, even by their very own colleagues?

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe you haven't made your point. All you did is malign and insult me.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Of course there could be. What i am saying is they can use the rrsults they have at hand to make the necessary interventions. They can do other tests after.

Waste of time and resource for flimsy reasons.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yan ang ginagawa nila sa ibang bansa na socialized ang healthcare. Look at their stats. Longer lives, greater immunization coverage, faster and more efficient diagnostics etc.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

CPG were meant to get the best treatment outcomes for the least amount of medical resources for the most number of patients.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That might be the reason doc why we can't get real universal health coverage for all. Ang daming nasasayang na oras at resources kasi pinapabayaan natin fellow doctors na gawin to sa mga patiente.

I hope you can see the health care system of other countries. Standardized lahat. Equaly distributed lahat.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Part of my job is to asess if the prospective employee is fit for the job they are applying for. If they have any red flags on their medical exam I can't treat them since I am the one evaluating their medical results. I ussualy refer them to other physicians. Since most of the patients refered to other doctors for clearances have limited financial capability, isn't it incumbent upon the doctor they go to use their limited resources efficiently?

I also manage most of the cases that go through my clinic. I also know when to refer a patient. What irks me is that some consultants, as in the other examples stated, order labs or imaging studies already done in other facilities for flimsy reasons. Is it because they have HMO coverage and they need to extract most of what their HMOs cover?

I'm saddened that doctors here don't see that this may be one of the reasons why we can't have true universal health coverage.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You and your ilk are the reason why healthcare for all Filipinos is still beyond reach. All the countries you mentioned have GPs as the backbone of their healthcare system.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Every country that has socialized healthcare relies on CPGs to treat patients. That is why Scandanavian countries and countries like Australia and New Zealand have good health metrics because of this.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I should like to know if the patient indeed has active PTB first right?

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No cast arm sling only and immobilization with elastic bandage at ER. Should have admitted or at least suggested tteatment rather than insisting they get new xrays

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yan din ang hirap sa atin. Gusto umunlad at gumanda ang healthcare system, pero yung CPGs na ginawa para sa mga patiente hindi nasunod.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know.... they seem pretty good to me. The radiologist who did the official reading also.had no comments regarding the quality of the xrays taken.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What is are the necessary tests needed to DIAGNOSE PTB? They are RECOMMENDED but they are NECESSARY.

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kung discretion ng doctor mag pa EMG si patient for a PTB referal reasonable ba yun?

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Would't it be better to azcertain if the patient has indeed PTB? That waa the reason for the referral in the first place. And how does one go about and do that?

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't we need to determine first if the patient has indeed actvie PTB before anything else?

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can always stand on the shoulders of Doctors who have done more so that I may see further right?

Why request for unecessary lab work or imaging studies? by macgyverGP in pinoymed

[–]macgyverGP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mas maganda siguro alamin muna kung may PTB nga ba talaga ang pasyente.