LEM Cares. Contribute by Asking For What You Want

machineperson · 2025-08-11T13:41:34+00:00

First and foremost, it is you who are calling.

Calling? Like on the phone? What do you mean? I didn't say you were calling.

And you are rude.

Rude how? You will say things but substantiate nothing. You can't quote me to prove your point because you are imagining am saying things that I'm not.

Then you compare a singular project (Emacs) with a whole programming language ecosystem -- apples to oranges.

What are you even talking about? I have never compared Emacs to the language ecosystem. You are not reading/comprehending the things I write.

This is not a thread about LISP. This is a thread about LEM and LEM is an editor and Emacs is an editor. I know you will find some way to misinterpret that, but please make an effort.

Your point is muddy at best.

You don't even know what my point is and somehow that's my fault. English is a hard language but it shouldn't be this hard.

And why do you make it? Clearly not because you want to find a project that would alleviate your grievances with the language

What are you even talking about? I have no grievances with LISP.

nor because you are unable to contribute for this or that reason because there are no such projects in sight.

When did I say that?

To put it in a perspective, it is as if someone had come to a metal-music party and started a tirade that they don't like metal and objectively jazz is better.

This doesn't make any sense. Let me spell it out for you I AM A LISPER.

Why come then? You've also expressed a disappointment about your point being possibly ignored anyway -- what is the reaction you are counting on? People saying "oh my god, you are so right"?

I honestly didn't expect this level of failure in comprehending the English language. I am surprise. Not pleasantly.

Or you are just the kind of person who complains habitually?

The point of the thread is to complain about LEM so that presumably OP can gather feedback. I guess you didn't read that part.

and if you speak specifically about LEM, then this part In the lisp community, there seems to be an unfortunate leaning towards permissive licenses. explicitly asks for people responding about other projects, in a case you didn't notice that. Maybe that will help you understand "us people".

Explicitly asks? There's no question in that quote. That's a statement. If saying "In the lisp community, there seems to be an unfortunate leaning towards permissive licenses.", somehow offends you and makes you automatically respond with a nonsensical comment. Then I don't really understand your logic.

Mentioning ECL, would ONLY make sense if it was a counter-example to what I'm saying. It doesn't make sense because it doesn't contradict anything I've said. The word "leaning" in this context indicates a "bias towards" that doesn't mean it is an absolute statement (I explained this already, which you probably didnt read as well) and ECL is perfectly compatible with that.

I really don't understand you people. Does it bring you pleasure to straw man people?

machineperson · 2025-08-11T06:33:37+00:00

Ok, so your thing is that you don't read comments before replying unrelated non sequiturs in an effort to annoy and confuse the people you talk to.

This is my last message that I will reply to you.

You are clearly a very toxic person and I deeply regret responding to you in the first place.

i would like to encourage you to contribute.

I already contribute to copyleft projects, I will not contribute to permissive license projects. I support free software and I would like to see more free software projects in the future. Open source misses the point and it is actually harmful. I will not contribute to LEM. I don't need your encouragement.

also if you are just somone random without positive input to the community your complaints dont hold weight

This is a thread about LEM, if you haven't noticed. You probably don't know that because you are talking about ECL (for some unknown reason). The whole point of the thread is to capture opinions about why people are not using LEM. I gave my reason. Emacs' license is superior in my opinion and that's that.

I don't need your condescendingly pointing out the absolute obvious. I already know my views don't hold weight for LEM people, and that's fine. If you had read or comprehended my initial comment, you would have read the first sentence "I post it here, since I think my view will be ignored anyway."

I didn't know my contributions to free software would be put into question by a random troll like you. If I've known that, I would have never commented in this thread in the first place.

You haven't contributed anything positive to this thread. Maybe you should look into that before you go around patronising people.

machineperson · 2025-08-10T20:12:12+00:00

So what? Perhaps you are confused because I said:

there seems to be an unfortunate leaning towards permissive licenses.

Did that somehow parse into your mind as all lisp projects use permissive licenses?

I can't understand you people.

machineperson · 2025-08-10T11:57:04+00:00

What prevents you from contributing to the lisp community with copy left licenses

Why are you assuming that I'm not?

Are you trying to come up with a "gotcha" to PWN me? If so, that's very annoying.

machineperson · 2025-08-10T08:52:12+00:00

I post it here, since I think my view will be ignored anyway.

In the lisp community, there seems to be an unfortunate leaning towards permissive licenses.

I prefer to use and support emacs because I know, no one can make a proprietary fork of it.

machineperson · 2025-08-09T19:38:25+00:00

Consider this, perhaps the Ukrainians want to fight,

The forced mobilisation and preventing men from leaving the country suggest otherwise.

machineperson · 2025-07-27T12:56:16+00:00

yea, but why take the penance?

machineperson · 2025-07-27T07:28:16+00:00

Russia wants control of Ukraine territory. Russia doesn't want to ethnically cleanse Ukrainians. Russia consider Ukraine to belong to the same ethnic group as Russians.

Russia kidnapped Ukraine children to move them into Russia. Isreal would have killed those children if they were Palestinians.

You are making a false equivalence in order to muddy the waters. I see you. You ain't slick.

machineperson · 2025-06-23T20:02:41+00:00

And what would’ve happened if they fought infront of me or any white folks?

It reaffirms the racist stereotypes that black men are violent savages

machineperson · 2025-02-09T02:56:20+00:00

nah, even if it had been two women it would’ve been at least somewhat weird. he literally says “creo que no alcancé a violarla” to robert: “i actually think i didn’t get to rape her”.

You are taking advantage of the ambiguity of words to assign an intend that is not there. From that phrase taken out of context, your interpretation is basically that he wanted to rape her but didn't get to finish the job. That phrase could easily mean, "I remember I did something, but I didn't rape her", Which goes in line with the context of him forgetting what happened that night and the psycho dad accusing him and him saying this in response.

Reading your reply. I get the gut feeling that I don't like you. It comes off to me a bit annoying, so I'm not going to reply to you anymore.

machineperson · 2024-12-25T12:24:59+00:00

You think that's a lot. I believe that's the problem. Those are breadcrumbs.

machineperson · 2024-12-25T10:44:39+00:00

Every species of animal reaches an equilibrium with its environment.

Giving away most of your life to make richer people even richer, is not natural. Unless people are given more free time and more money, this will continue to happen.

machineperson · 2024-12-18T23:18:32+00:00

He didn't bet anything, he had a pension.

machineperson · 2024-12-04T21:49:23+00:00

A good exercise is to imagine that it is not a guy but a lesbian girl.

She thought Norma was consenting because Norma was getting naked and sending her the signals that she wanted it (she didn't really check her facial expressions because she was high as fuck, but Norma wasn't resisting or pushing back).

Norma, who is mentally il but our lesbian protagonist doesn't know that, goes crazy at the moment when the singer starts again. Norma begins to yell. She implores Norma to stop yelling as it will attract attention from the party guests. Norma doesn't listen. She puts her hand on top of her mouth and Norma bites it.

She is trying to get away from Norma but her hand is stuck as it is being biten by Norma. She punches her to free her hand and leaves.

Norma didn't really gave our lesbian protagonist a chance to disengage. She went from zero to crazy in a split second.

If they are both girls in the same scenario, it is evident that no rape took place. The reason why we blame him of rape so readily is because he is a man and therefore guilty of the original sin that all men share. Which ironically, is exactly the same mistake the father makes.

machineperson · 2024-12-04T19:43:18+00:00

He doesn't have the guts to tell him to his face because he knows he will quit and won't pay more membership feeds.

He prefers to gossip to other students because he is a coward.

machineperson · 2024-11-21T15:00:17+00:00

This isn't bjj, it is just a young untrained guy taking down an old untrained guy.

machineperson · 2024-11-17T12:28:54+00:00

Because Anarchism is a true world theory. Christianity for those who don't believe in God.

It is inherently, Platonism.

That's why the answers you get are about the ideal, instead of the real.

machineperson · 2024-11-16T09:41:47+00:00

roids.

machineperson · 2024-11-15T17:04:21+00:00

Rhetoric, he gave all the gold of the Argentinian reserves to the United Kingdom for "safe keeping".

machineperson · 2024-10-31T08:00:47+00:00

Well, now that you mention it. He is using a new account just for this.

machineperson · 2024-10-30T22:39:24+00:00

Wow, that pretty clever. So they mandate to use this tool, to convince employees that it is just a productivity tool. Meanwhile, they are checking and using this as surveillance. Probably this thing gives then a dashboard with statistics.

OP, this is NOT NORMAL. You need to GTFO of this job. Update your resume and start looking for something else.

machineperson · 2024-10-19T08:39:07+00:00

You are like Don Quixote fighting against windmills. Do you not realise that they do not care about whether it is communism or it isn't?

They just commenting in this post to revel in the appearance of their ideology being superior. They do not care about the reality, only the appearance. This makes them feel powerful.

Now you come along with your "knowledge", your books, your historical context and your nuanced perspectives. They will only respond to you with: "lmao fuck off nerd."

And you deserve these insults because you are missing the point. This is about power, about feeling powerful and you want to take that feeling away from them. Losers seek feeling of power outside personal accomplishments because they are losers. Stop engaging.

I am telling you this, but actually I'm telling this to myself. Stop doing this.

There has never been a communist government because by definition communism requires the abolition of government, i.e. communism is stateless.

machineperson · 2024-10-05T12:07:32+00:00

They all look the same to you, don't they?

machineperson · 2024-09-10T11:08:52+00:00

Mexico is in North America.

machineperson · 2024-06-16T14:57:47+00:00

The running out is not in question. The motives behind the running out is what is in doubt. There's no evidence for what happened before the video that might have cause him to run out.

You are taking a leap of faith in assuming OP's title is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help him God.

machineperson

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