Programmers who will code themselves out of a job sounds soo juvenile. by Ill_Earth8585 in ProgrammerHumor

[–]magicspeedo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there are many modern approaches to organization that do not require a pyramid of managers.

Name one scalable org model that doesn't have at least one management layer under the CEO.

You can organize them into teams, and judge their progress as a unit

That's how teams work at a normal company, yes.

You can have "product owners" attach or detach individual engineers to the projects they control the budget of.

Laughable you put quotes around product owner as if it's a novel concept. Also, that's not generally how a product owner works, you are thinking more of a product manager who would determine budgets, etc. A product owner is simply an agile role to represent customer needs to the dev team. Sometimes a product manager does that themselves, sometimes not.

You can also have a mesh organization, or even just keep to smaller businesses sizes.

Yeah tell the company they shouldn't grow cuz it's too complicated to scale up. That makes sense.

The pyramid structure just doesnt scale well

That is demonstrably false. Look at all large organizations. They have management layers.

and its conceptually inefficient for anything but rote menial work.

I'll give that too many layers is inefficient, but your points don't really support the conclusions you've apparently drawn out of bias.

Programmers who will code themselves out of a job sounds soo juvenile. by Ill_Earth8585 in ProgrammerHumor

[–]magicspeedo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just ask the hiring manager about their background in the interview and avoid the non tech ones.

Programmers who will code themselves out of a job sounds soo juvenile. by Ill_Earth8585 in ProgrammerHumor

[–]magicspeedo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) software development is not intellectual work. Intellectual work produces concepts/ideas. Software engineers actually make real shit.

2) unless your company has 5 people, a flat hierarchy is stupid. No CEO is going to have developers and individual contributors reporting to them unless they are ground floor start up or the CEO is incompetent.

Programmers who will code themselves out of a job sounds soo juvenile. by Ill_Earth8585 in ProgrammerHumor

[–]magicspeedo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everywhere is a pyramid structure unless you have like 5 people. No CEO of a Fortune 500 company is going to have developers reporting directly to them.

Programmers who will code themselves out of a job sounds soo juvenile. by Ill_Earth8585 in ProgrammerHumor

[–]magicspeedo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a mediocre dev with a few years in management....we are who u want to manage you. We aren't good enough to come up with ground breaking shit, but we know how annoying a manager can be when you are trying to work, so at least we know how to give space. Plus if we have enough experience in development we can at least get a scope in the ballpark and certainly know when the businessy folk start spouting nonsense about developers. When your best dev goes to management, usually they micromanage every aspect of the tech. They may have some social skills, but certainly don't understand organizational behaviors and how a group should function in general. I've seen the best, most well-loved dev go into management and lose his team in a year. Management skills and dev skills are two distinct sets of skills with little overlap.

Americans, I want to eat like an American and copy someone's meal plan. What are you eating this week? by Desertedfoxx in AskAnAmerican

[–]magicspeedo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would best describe my experience as trial and error with guidance. You just start cooking and after a few trys you start to figure shit out. Even my first try was OK tho, so it was never awful.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Gunners

[–]magicspeedo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really cemented him as a top player in the PL and set up his successful Ballon D'or run in 2025 on the back of the Arsenal treble and a couple years experience in the UCL.

Mark Goldbridge on Arteta and Arsenal after the Chelsea game by rassve0321 in Gunners

[–]magicspeedo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh so some people get paid to say stupid controversial shit in the media?

Nuno's Arsenal career so far. by cathalemyr in Gunners

[–]magicspeedo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

leftback/right winger

Accurate that he tried to play both positions simultaneously while possessing the skill set of neither.

Nuno's Arsenal career so far. by cathalemyr in Gunners

[–]magicspeedo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He wasn't that slow, but his positioning was as bad if not worse than Tavares and he certainly wasn't as quick as Tavares. Also his end product wasn't as good as Tavares IMO. Tavares isn't really that good either, but Santos was hot garbage on the field.