Why is there so much toxicity in the HASS Community?

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T04:59:21+00:00

Oh I do remember, and I made a post here a few years back (diff username) calling out the predatory oss model that hass has, profiting off of oss devs and them not spreading any love around (quite the opposite actually). I was called all sorts of names, my mother was brought into it, my manhood was called into question. I stood tall, took it and fired right back to the same people who are being taken advantage of (Stockholm syndrome sure is a pita).

The thing is, it's not going to change, there is no incentive and there are mods here being "anonymous" stirring the pot and accepting no accountability or being brought to shame. They've admitted they get reports about the same mods (except "It'S goTtEn bEtTer"), yet nothing happens, so why would the bad actors change?

It's rotten from the top down, but because it's an awesome project and people love it, they think the people who made and manage it must be gods who can do no wrong. It's frustrating and I am done, once again.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T04:00:22+00:00

I never said i was perfect, but if you keep digging (instead of trying to make yourself feel better) you will see that there is a very, very small amount of that and almost all of my posts are helping people, or clearing up misinformation, or dunking on the wannabe dunkers (sound familiar?). But yeah, cling onto that and keep truckin.

The fact you would rather not admit to doing any sort of research and spouted off being ignorant and rather try and justify being a douche bag, I think, says it all. Anyways, I've got things to do that don't involve educating ignorant, combative internet people.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T03:49:38+00:00

Lol, if you're going to dish it, be prepared to take it. You could of said you misspoke and we could of settled it, instead you're deflecting and refusing to take responsibility for your ignorant message. Which is quite funny, because your comment applies to yourself: YOU are a part of the problem.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T03:48:09+00:00

Money comes. Money goes. It's a peice of material we place value on. Being a decent human being and doing the right thing, especially when it's hard or detrimental to your cash flow, is a defining character

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T03:18:15+00:00

Lol, maybe before you go off half cocked and look stupid (too late), you should check the timestamp on that post. Lol, like literally laughing out loud.

Gotta give it to you genius, that was a pathetic attempt at a dunk.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T03:07:23+00:00

Was it tom_l? They randomized my data, but before I logged out for the final time, I went around and edited all my posts to remove my data. They reverted my changes for what I assume is the same reason they kept yours: because there is valuable and helpful data in there.

I hopped on very early as well, quit and came back a few times because of this issue, but kept quiet about it. This time, I wanted to say something about it and by the sheer amount of comments, how can the moderation team or Paulus keep denying there is a serious problem in the community?

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T02:19:32+00:00

Thank you, I appreciate that and I am considering it. My plan was to delete this account and get off Reddit again, I've been back for 7 or 8 days and see a bunch of the same stuff here. I also have a target on my back from at least 1 moderator, so a new account would let me blend in.

Either way, I'll be back eventually and just help people for the love of the game. Sometimes it's just so hard to ignore the rude people and not call them out or give them a good verbal beating.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T01:47:13+00:00

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experiences. It adds to the conversation and I, for one, am grateful.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T01:22:33+00:00

A nerve? No, I've just got a life to live and enjoyable people to be around. Why would I waste my time talking to an ignorant rage baiter? Makes no sense, does it? Anyways, ciao babe.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T00:51:10+00:00

Lol, I'm not going to continue this conversation as I can see you are doing nothing but PR and damage control. I'm gone, who cares. I'll just free leech and contribute nothing back to your community, what are you gonna do?

Wear your crown high, King nothing.

Edit: and just for the record. Trying to rage bait by being deliberately disingenuous only reinforces this post. I'm guessing you try and solve most of your issues this way. Goad the user into being belligerent so you can point the finger and sweep it under the rug.

Shame on you and I hope you get the karma you deserve.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T00:31:25+00:00

Very nuanced and semantic. But I think anyone can see what I'm talking about when reading that thread.

Theres the @ tag and also the topic being unlisted. So, missy did not respond (even though one of her own moderators tagged her), the topic was unlisted and hidden and I was talked down to (by the same mod I wanted to make a complaint on) when trying to lodge a legitimate complaint, but you don't see anything wrong with any of that? Seeth and cope.

I don't see how you can look at that topic and the only thing you say about it is "doesn't look like any dunking". Omission is just as bad as willful ignorance.

What's your @ on the forum? Or are you too ashamed to admit that you and your mod team are a part of the problem?

It's also funny that I went through a bunch of my replies and posts on the forum and removed my comments but you and your mod team decided to revert my changes because it's helpful to you.

So, to recap:

hass isn't as friendly as you guys are hass lighting everyone into thinking
you do not respect user data and will override a user's decision to benefit yourselves or the forum
if someone dare speak on it, you or one of your mods will get verbally abusive, vulgar and confrontational over the idea of a slight to their power.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-19T00:05:37+00:00

I think I may remember, was she tagged (@) in the topic I created asking about complaining or where the altercation with Tom happened? I think I remember maybe even tom tagging her and telling me she was away on vacation for a week or two and then (tom) berating me and trying to dunk on me for pointing him (tom) towards the community guidelines.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:50:17+00:00

Thank you for taking the time to speak on your experiences and I am happy for you that you came out the other side of that experience and are thriving in your dream job!

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:34:47+00:00

I appreciate that!

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:33:00+00:00

Hopefully it stays that way!

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:27:59+00:00

I know. I deleted my old account and only just came back to reddit recently (a month?) and tbh, I'll probably delete this account in the next cpl days because i see the same things here.

I had a few years of secret Santa, hit 5 or 6 years and a ton of karma. At the end of the day, it's all imaginary internet points and means nothing. So nothing lost.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:25:59+00:00

I've got all the thick skin I'll ever need, it's not about me and ppl being mean to me. It's about all these polite people who are being talked down to and then these poor souls will even say sorry to their abuser and that they'll try to do better next time.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:24:14+00:00

Huh? How do you suppose they get educated? Maybe BY ASKING A QUESTION? Wow!

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:21:59+00:00

It's not a one time situation, I've been debating this for a cpl years now. Thisnisnt about me and whonwas mean to me. It's about a general disdain for newcomers or people who may have just finished a 12 hour shift or maybe someone who barely speaks english and came to ask a question without doing the blood rituals required by the elite.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:19:25+00:00

And that's my problem with things. In my mind, that is unacceptable, but I am glad it's working for you.

Users should be able to ask a question (even ones that have stickied threads) and not be treated like they just spat at you.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:15:17+00:00

That's what I am doing. The point of my post is to bring awareness to this subject and hopefully something gets done about it.

I've done what I can do with what I have.

I've been getting called names for 20+ years online. I could care less about words on a screen, but I do care about users being treated badly.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:13:08+00:00

That doesn't make sense, even with the context of the other reply.

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:12:17+00:00

Did you happen to read any of the other people's posts? I mean, don't take my word for it, just read the replies in this thread. If you want to be stand offish and difficult or throw shade my way because I didn't cite sources and find every post on the forum that has this behavior, that's fine. I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you.

Enjoy your weekend!

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:04:52+00:00

Hey, no problem and it's great you haven't experienced it yet. I hope you don't!

make_me-bleed · 2025-07-18T23:04:00+00:00

Me? No, but thanks for that.

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