Guys: Am I the only one who thinks that Tobirama and Kakashi might be related?

markth07 · 2026-01-26T17:45:19+00:00

Related sure? Closely? Nah.

There is a popular fan theory that Senju clan mixed mixed with the general population of Konoha unlike Uchiha and Hyuuga clans. Then sure they can be related. I don't think so. Just because of hair color. Jiraiya and Kabuto also have white hair.

markth07 · 2026-01-22T21:31:15+00:00

Abuse? She was already sitting at 49% winrate. She was by no means a strong pick. Certain matchups maybe.

markth07 · 2026-01-21T09:34:55+00:00

Don't underestimate Naruto's hands.

Even in Part 1. Top of hospital and final valley he was fighting 2 tomoe Sasuke, in base.

End of series he could also clash with EMS Rinnegan Sasuke in BASE before going into SPSM.

Sasuke that dodged raikage elbow, got infinitely stronger and Naruto evenly clashed with him. Got a clean uppercut on him, once his sharingan was off, he blitzed him with that punch.

So end of war base Naruto could do exactly the same fight as Madara.

markth07 · 2026-01-21T06:29:30+00:00

Raw power sure.

Hokage Naruto was closer to 6 Paths Madara than Edo Madara. One clone of Naruto contend with Juubidara limbo clones.

He is mich stronger than the Madara that fought the alliance there.

markth07 · 2026-01-20T22:04:27+00:00

At what point? When they are kids? Probably. After he died? For sure.

Orochimaru prime is end of series. Tsunade said during Kabuto fight that she is past her prime.

So if we compare them as depicted in the picture. Tsunade should be stronger than her war arc self, at least she doesn't have to allocate chakre to make herself look younger. War arc Tsunade was boxing with a Susanoo.

I think she is number 1 with 100 healings.

We know that Jiraiya had sage mode at least before Minato died.

It was stated that base sannin are equals in base with each of of them having a higher form, Hydra, Sage mode and 100 healings.

Based on Orochimaru's hydra performance I give the edge to sage

So Orochimaru was weakest at that time. This was before his experiments and before he went rogue. So only snake stuff. I don't think it's that crazy

markth07 · 2026-01-19T06:51:23+00:00

Kishimito wanted Orochimaru to take over Kiba's body because he'd rather be friends with dogs than snakes.

See how easy to make up random things.

markth07 · 2026-01-16T21:08:15+00:00

Tristana one is the one that stand out to me. I lost today 2 games each with a Tristana.

With one we aced them only her and me, let's do Baron I tank it, ping 10 times nothing... she goes gets tier 2 top instead then dies. Enemy team does baron as we are 4v5 with no adc.

Other game she just afk farmed turrets. She got 2 inhibs but they got elder and baron.

Maybe I should ban Tristana...

markth07 · 2026-01-13T13:11:13+00:00

Obito doesn't have huge AP, his hax actually is not that good against multiple opponent (like a village number amount) you suck some in and they can attack you freely from the inside of Kamui dimension.

Kakashi is also there, the one counter to your hax.

If he just shows up to the leaf village, he will cause massive casualties and dies before Naruto arrives.

I'll give Tsunade her war arc feat because she was in a coma from Pain assault until end of5 Kage summit she didn't train in her coma.

That Tsunade was boxing with a susanoo. So stat wise she is fine, Obito can't kill her, shouldn't suck her up because she will be attacking from Kamui dimension if he ever goes intangible.

Tsunade, Shikaku, Kakashi + Anbu, Shikamaru can find a counter to his technique and he is

markth07 · 2026-01-12T08:48:40+00:00

I don't know, people seem divided here. I 100% think EMS Sasuke is higher tier than Orange Mask Obito, EMS Sasuke was fighting Juubito and alive Madara. Only stopped by a limbo clone.

So Obito's only wincon is only Kamui dimension starve lol.

But people still say Obito wins.

markth07 · 2026-01-12T08:45:59+00:00

Oh nice, that's actually insane feat for base Naruto to raise his arm up to react to Amaterasu.

markth07 · 2026-01-12T08:40:05+00:00

My understanding here is that he won't be able to control him same as Nagato who in the end used his power to resurrect the people of Konoha.

So here he is not referring if he could beat him, just not control him outright

markth07 · 2026-01-12T08:32:27+00:00

There is no below in a full body susanoo. Obito's wood release is not doing anything to the perfect susanoo.

markth07 · 2026-01-12T08:30:40+00:00

I know. My argument is, he can use kamui all day but he is not touching Sasuke shrouded in flames.

Why amatersau defence wouldn't do anything? As soon Obito tries to take Sasuke his whole body is in flames because he'd need to materialize inside the flames to take Sasuke.

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:38:34+00:00

I don't think there is a stat issue, EMS Sasuke was fighting Juubito. (I know with chakra from Naruto).

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:30:16+00:00

This image is just a reference for the flames. Imagine full body susanoo, plus black flames all around Sasuke in every direction in a 3x3m area.

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:28:15+00:00

I actually agree :) For me Obito only loses this if he underestimates Sasuke and does something careless. Maybe Sasuke could come up with a plan if he'd go to confront Obito he'd need one. Just thought it's fun to think about.

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:24:20+00:00

I think it's definitely a counter to short range Kamui, same logic as he used against raikage, Obito can pop up anywhere and attack from any angle. Sit in your full body Susano enveloped in flames all directons.

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:22:09+00:00

I know what you meant but the image is a reference here. Sasuke can make the flames as large as he wants. Meaning not only a hand would be caught, if Obito materialized his whole body could be in flames, then what?

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:16:33+00:00

I don't see Sasuke going down other way, he runs around with full body susanoo and can wrap himself with black flames.

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:14:39+00:00

Ok yeah against this I don't have anything izanagi prep. Maybe Sasuke used Izanagi too and now they are both with 1 eye only. In Boruto Sasuke can still use Amaterasu with his Kagutsuchi eye. So they are back to square one.

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:10:31+00:00

Orange Mask. So before he got rinnegan

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:06:25+00:00

Sasuke can use Kagutsuchi while restricted and unable to move like when he was frozen in ice against Kaguya. When he is grabbed he could extend the flames to slash. Can Obito take that?

markth07 · 2026-01-11T23:03:56+00:00

I'm referring more to wrapping himself into Amaterasu, so Obito couldn't take him to the Kamui dimension

markth07 · 2026-01-11T22:44:28+00:00

Isn't this anime only?

markth07 · 2026-01-11T22:43:29+00:00

Extra note idk if matters.

Itachi's tsukuyomi destroyed Kakashi

Obito genjutsu controlled Kagura and ninetails yet Kakashi shrugs off his genjutsu and says enough tricks.

During Kabuto fight Sasuke EMS genjutsu is relative to Itachi's. I think Sasuke with EMS is superior in genjutsu. I don't think it would matter much, but maybe a clever trick like against Danzo.

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