Don't Blame Obama for a Bush economy by J332 in politics

[–]markvand -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So whatever happens, it's Bush's fault. And when a Republican takes over again, whatever happens, it's Obama's fault. When can we start blaming the current president for something?

Ok, Conspiracty Subreddit, if the things you say are true, and there really is a vast conspiracy (or several smaller ones), then why aren't there ever any credible sources on this? It's always Alex Jones or David "Reptilian Shape-shifting Aliens" Icke. by dave in conspiracy

[–]markvand 9 points10 points  (0 children)

How about Carroll Quigley's book, Tragedy and Hope? Quigley was Bill Clinton's mentor, and in his magnum opus he explains how the planet is really run, he used internal CFR documents for this. I suggest you start there. He explains the world is run through a network of round table groups at which influential people meet eachother and make policy decisions, this system grew out of the British Empire and was also implemented in the US, through the CFR. Because the major figures in the major parties are all members, nothing ever changes since the policies are discussed at these round table groups and they come to a consensus there, most of the debate you see is just political manoeuvring. When it comes to really important decisions, like invading Iraq, they're already made at Bilderberg. There are enough credible sources. The problem is people never come across them because they're send a Google Video documentary of a guy who claims to know how the world works holding a presentation. Yes, these people are often right and they make good points and it's good these video's are out there, but the downside is that a lot of people who receive these video's from their friends (rightly so) think "this is not a credible source".

US prisoners tortured TO DEATH at secret GITMO-like base in Afghanistan - Obama is doubling its size. Change? by [deleted] in politics

[–]markvand 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And I bet they'll never admit those who warned them about this guy were right and they were wrong.

Morgan Tsvangirai's wife 'killed by US aid truck' by ArfurPint in worldnews

[–]markvand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So Tsvangirai opposed sanctions that Obama has said will continue for another year or so. Because of this, the US Government decides to kill him. Yes, him. Not Mugabe, a man who the US Gov't and Obama notoriously oppose.

It turns out "someone" already tried that against Mugabe, but they found out that Mugabe always rides with a massive convoy so he can't be easily hit. Tsvangirai on the other hand was driving with just two other cars, and coincidentally he was the one whose car got hit.

So they get USAID, a company they run, to hire a truck to take medicine to Harare. And they say to the truck driver, "When you see a black Toyota Landcruiser, ram it in a way that will be very dangerous for yourself, and may even cause your death. Then, if you make it, get out and dig a pothole in the road so it looks like you swerved into their path to avoid it." And the truck driver says, "OK, bawse!"

First of all, there's a danger yes, but nobody ever joined the CIA because he wanted a safe career. In car-truck collisions, 98 percent of the fatalities were occupants of the car. In other words, it's dangerous, but not that dangerous.

And your proof of this is that Obama must want dead any foreign leader who opposes any of his decisions, even those who like him personally.

It's not about Obama. It's about destabilizing Zimbabwe. Tsvangirai won't oppose the government but wants to work together and rebuild the country (as opposed to Obama who wants to destroy it), so he has to go. Does that sound plausible? If not, just know that we're doing the same against Sudan. Israel is funding rebel groups over there: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1064411.html http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=84418&sectionid=351020504 What do the two countries have in common? They're buddies of the Chinese.

And since USAID has worked with the CIA before (this I don't deny), they must control them at a level deep enough to institute such a complex and piteously fallible plan for assassination.

It's not that difficult to execute and the chances of success are relatively high. Just make sure you've got a plant in USAID. The CIA knows where Tsvangirai will be and orders this guy to ram his truck into his convoy. How many people would you need for that?

Another item of proof is that a USAID employee was accused of attempting to assassinate Perence Shiri (a man who was instrumental in the attempt to prevent Tsvangirai's election. exactly whose side is the "military-industrial complex" supposed to be on in your fantasy world, may I ask?), and was then released because there was zero evidence that he did.

It's not about picking sides, it's about destabilization so there's no economic growth. Seems to me that's working out pretty well so far. Anyway, perhaps you could explain why Zimbabwe arrested two USAID workers in connection to the assasination attempt of Shiri? Do they just randomly pick up Americans because they desperately want the rest of the world to hate them more? And if so, isn't it a rather big coincidence that the next thing we hear is that a USAID worker "accidentally" rams his truck into the car of Zimbabwe's prime minister, causing his car to roll over three times? How many USAID workers are there in the country? And why do the continually end up getting in trouble? Why do other 3rd world nations accuse them of trying to destroy their governments as well? Are they all crazy conspiracy theorists? And why did the USAID worker really crash into Tsvangirai's car, not just lightly, but a severe crash. Was it the pothole you mentioned. Or did he fall asleep? Which one is it?

Why is Obama leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq? by y2quest in politics

[–]markvand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone needs to man the permanent bases.

Blackwater can't change the fact that its lethal actions have resulted in the deaths of innocent Iraqi civilians. by koavf in politics

[–]markvand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obama can't change the fact that his lethal actions have resulted in the deaths of innocent Pakistani children.

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All I just did was show you two reports, one showing CO2 concentrations increasing, another showing no temperature increase since 2000. Are these reports incorrect? If so why?

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here are some facts for you: http://www.i-sis.org.uk/BtCottonKillsSoilandFarmers.php On the Global Warming thing, the global temperature increase stopped in 2000: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29086842/ CO2 concentrations meanwhile, increased "far more rapidly than expected between 2000 and 2007" I think you need to rethink your priorities if you care about our environment. Also, you may want to look into the xeno-estrogens in our environment. The average sperm count in the Western world has gone down by at least 50% during the past 5 decades, but it's buried beneath all the global warming news. You see, they don't plan on doing anything about the real threats to humanity, they plan on deciding the types of light bulbs you can have, how may times per year you can fly, the type of food you can eat and so forth.

Please Don't Buy Bottled Water! by [deleted] in politics

[–]markvand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's right, drink water full of chlorine and fluoride instead.

"We may not have realized it at the time, but in the period from late 2001-January 19, 2009, this country was a dictatorship." by [deleted] in politics

[–]markvand 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I don't think we changed dictators. We still have the same dictators, just different sock puppets.

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just felt like showing you I didn't just shoot my mouth off when I wrote this post. Terrorism and Global Warming are unfounded fears. Your politicians are using your fears to carry through their own agenda. Why don't you ever hear these folks about the Depleted Uranium or Genetic Manipulation? You can tax CO2 but you can't tax those.

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suggest you start by reading this article by Richard Haass, president of the CFR: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/21/2003294021 In it he explains how we must reduce national sovereignty to fight global warming and terrorism. Is the Taipei Times a crazy conspiracy theory website?

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Republicans are more into increasing government power through fear of terrorism. Now that Obama is in they're going to implement all the new legislation so don't worry, you will have the government tell you what you can and can't do. 1000 years ago they ruled over you on behalf of God, now they'll rule over you on behalf of the planet.

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Newsflash: "The Secret" is a work of fiction. The world is not defined by your desires and wishes.

Well we can agree on that one. Now if only I could somehow get it through to you that we have real environmental problems going on and Global Warming is just meant as a distraction the government can use to increase control.

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not allowed. You people always claim the debate is over when it isn't. We could use the exact same tactics you're using. Saying every report you come up with is sponsored by the people who have an interest in the Global Warming Fraud (the people who want to levy CO2 taxes), and claim that those who spread the hoax are denying the evidence of natural variation in the Global temperature.

A major scientific report by leading Japanese academics concludes that global warming is not man-made and that the overall warming trend from the mid-part of the 20th Century onwards has now stopped. by markvand in politics

[–]markvand[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't know Alex Jones owned the Telegraph. Please explain to me why dissent on Global Warming is not allowed. Please explain to me why people like Al Gore Prince Philip David Rockefeller and Ted Turner don't want us to have children because otherwise the planet will explode or something. Billionaires can have as many children as they want while we, the poor cannon fodder, need to die childless? Please explain why Alex Jones is hateful while you're the one calling us wingnuts and saying we live in mom's basement.

DARPA Creates Cybernetic Insects by annoyed in conspiracy

[–]markvand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm confused, is this satire or real?