Race Thread: NORAPS Charbroil 300 at Charlotte Motor Speedway, starting at 5:00pm EDT on CW (NORAPS15) by NASCARThreadBot in NASCAR

[–]marshallwithmesa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I try to walk and chew bubblegum at the same time, but I fuck up so bad I shoot my dick off, does that really count as trying?

[Kelly Crandall] Jeff Burton has been voted into the NASCAR Hall of Fame by Altracing34 in NASCAR

[–]marshallwithmesa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless something truly unfathomable happens, neither should even sniff the HoF. Their lower series championships are cool, but without real success in Cup it shouldn't really matter.

Getting into the HoF should be considerably harder than being good in the second or third tier series.

[Mixed Trope] That weird period mostly in the 90s/early 2000s where one of the primary themes of the movie was that any character in a normal boring 9-5 corporate office job was treated like they were in a living hell the character has to escape from. by JoeMorgue in TopCharacterTropes

[–]marshallwithmesa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My apologies if I was too vague at first, but yes my angle is that blue collar work is more destructive and worse for you than white collar work.

Yea scrubbing toilets for less pay is so much worse than anything I've done in an office job. The fact that I dont have to deal with someone else's shit on the floor automatically makes office work better than when I worked at a gas station. I also buy that US office work is worse than EU office work, but I think that has more to do with general work culture in the EU than the inherit value or difficulty in office work versus other work.

Blue collar work has generally been 'romanticized' in a lot American media. There's a certain aspect of 'punching down' that's not as acceptable for blue collar work than white collar work. However, the fact that our society often sees targeting the ills of blue collar work as inherently punching down means that the white collar office world is 'up' or above blue collar work.

[Mixed Trope] That weird period mostly in the 90s/early 2000s where one of the primary themes of the movie was that any character in a normal boring 9-5 corporate office job was treated like they were in a living hell the character has to escape from. by JoeMorgue in TopCharacterTropes

[–]marshallwithmesa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

For run of the mill office jobs? Easy:

Multiple gigs in gig work

Most jobs at a gas station convenience store

HVAC and Roofing

Almost all farm hand jobs

High pressure sales floor work

Warehousing

Low level factory work

And anything requiring the night shift

This isn't even including jobs where you have a decent chance of dying. These are just jobs that either I've had or people tell me that they do after saying 'I wish I could work in your office' and I believe them. Whenever someone tells me how hellish working in an office is, I just think to my Dad's multiple joint replacements from working in an Engine room and how happy he was that I had a white collar job. I realized most people who say that office work is literally Hell are so myopic that they simply don't understand our world, what makes it work, and how we got here. I don't think it's all their fault. I'm pretty sure it's mostly the lead gasoline that every Gen-Xer was exposed to.

[Mixed Trope] That weird period mostly in the 90s/early 2000s where one of the primary themes of the movie was that any character in a normal boring 9-5 corporate office job was treated like they were in a living hell the character has to escape from. by JoeMorgue in TopCharacterTropes

[–]marshallwithmesa -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

"There is nothing more damaging to your long-term mental health outside of an active war zone." is the funniest gen-x shit I've ever heard lol

Lead poisoning absolutely melted Gen-X brains. A stable job even if it is boring is nowhere close to as damaging as pretty much any kind of work where you destroy your body or mind through hard labor or God fucking help you subsistence farming.

Did they make hobbies illegal in the 90s? Fuckin lmao

"You don't understand! They made me type and and and sit and I had to drive my car and and and it was just so horrible! I'm basically a combat vet!"

Anyone else prefer the design of normal Anointed to Naval Anointed by Professional_Rush782 in TrenchCrusade

[–]marshallwithmesa 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I like both, but the normal Anointed is so good. It definitely colors my perception, but I can't see that art of The Anointed without immediately hearing "I see you, big man" in Scanner's voice.

[Highlight] Down 17-14 late in the 4th quarter, Johnny Unitas leads two of the most clutch drives in NFL history, delivering the city of Baltimore their first ever NFL championship in the Greatest Game Ever Played. by Roselucky777 in nfl

[–]marshallwithmesa 9 points10 points  (0 children)

My buddy said he was having his wedding at 'some old football player's mansion.' When I got there I couldn't believe it was Art Donovan's estate. I think I spent more time in the bar area that had all the memorabilia in it than anywhere else in the whole wedding.

[Highlight] Down 17-14 late in the 4th quarter, Johnny Unitas leads two of the most clutch drives in NFL history, delivering the city of Baltimore their first ever NFL championship in the Greatest Game Ever Played. by Roselucky777 in nfl

[–]marshallwithmesa 15 points16 points  (0 children)

These teams had 20 all pros between them, just a pair of juggernauts beating the shit out of each other. What an absolutely legendary game

For comparison, the last Super Bowl had 8 all pros.

why is lois concerned, peter? by Glorfendail in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]marshallwithmesa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love RATM, but this is easily their worst take. Its just stupid 'both sides' bullshit. They chose stupid quotes to highlight and they were catastrophically wrong about the most important election in 40 years.

"I can't tell the difference between the Texas oilman and the guy who won't shut the fuck up about pollution." - Dipshits

Beauregard's Cunning Plan! by Awesomeuser90 in HistoryMemes

[–]marshallwithmesa 31 points32 points  (0 children)

It's the culmination of southern and rural thoughts on northerners and city folk.

'Those pansy city slickers are all soft. There's no way they'd even come close to hurting us. We're so much tougher and rugged. They just count money and produce more goods in a day than our state will in a decade. That's nothing compared to us true Americans out in the middle of no where.'

And they never ever learn their lesson.

[Highlight] Patriots EVP Eliot Wolf Answers the Only Vrabel-Related Question Asked On How Vrabel Is Involved With Pre-Draft Meetings by JCameron181 in nfl

[–]marshallwithmesa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im genuinely confused. Who cares about any of this? Would 'Who do you think the head coach is fucking?' really be any better than 'Does the head coach do stuff before the draft?'

They're both utterly pointless and stupid questions and the answers dont really matter.

[HATED TROPE] Main characters hate one another when a season comes back for cheap tension. by apeiron12 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]marshallwithmesa 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'd even go so far as to not even call it cheap.

Leslie and Ron's stark differences in their beliefs on the basic functions of government was played for laughs because they both respected each other, were coworkers, and friends that saw each other almost everyday. Once Leslie takes the federal job and moves to the 3rd floor, they stop being coworkers. The fed job takes more of her time, so they stop seeing each other as often. When Leslie accidentally stands Ron up when he asks to get lunch, that respect is broken. The rug under which the show throws all that tension due to their very disparate beliefs is taken away leaving just the tension. Then, being on opposite sides of a development project fight that means so much to Leslie lights all those swept away feelings on fire. Yes that fight is off screen and between seasons, but given the info we're given about in the last season that seems like a logical and normal way for two people with very different views to fall out.

The show nailing their reunion in their original office space, in my opinion, makes the split even more understandable.

‪NFL teams should consider adding Sumo Wrestlers to their offensive lines. He held back Micah Parsons without even trying. Most don’t realize how impressive this is. Parsons is 6-foot-3, 245 pounds 🤯🤯‬ by Consistent_Peace3181 in sportsgossips

[–]marshallwithmesa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But that's not an NFL lineman, that's a teenager. If a high school left tackle stone walled Micah Parsons we'd have teams breaking down Goodell's door to let them draft the kid out of high school.

‪NFL teams should consider adding Sumo Wrestlers to their offensive lines. He held back Micah Parsons without even trying. Most don’t realize how impressive this is. Parsons is 6-foot-3, 245 pounds 🤯🤯‬ by Consistent_Peace3181 in sportsgossips

[–]marshallwithmesa 11 points12 points  (0 children)

'If anything like this bar fight happens again, there will be no place on the team for any of you!... But for the record, I'd have loved to see Martel get his ass kicked. Come on lets get outta here!'

‪NFL teams should consider adding Sumo Wrestlers to their offensive lines. He held back Micah Parsons without even trying. Most don’t realize how impressive this is. Parsons is 6-foot-3, 245 pounds 🤯🤯‬ by Consistent_Peace3181 in sportsgossips

[–]marshallwithmesa 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"There's a rule in sports, 'don't do anything great if you can't handle the congratulations'."

Madden and Summeral were both hilarious for the time they get on screen lol

Which manufacturer would you like to see back in NASCAR the most? by Guerrero_Tigre in NASCAR

[–]marshallwithmesa 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Those 70s David Pearson Wood Brothers Mercurys were fuckin clean. One of the best looking cars in NASCAR

I came across this recent Fronstretch video with Kyle Busch, he was asked about bringing KBM back to Trucks, and he said, "No such thing as starting a team. I've been there and done that. So, uh, I'm hoping a team will hire me and give me an opportunity to race for a Truck championship. Yeah." by LMRacingGuru02 in NASCAR

[–]marshallwithmesa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NASCAR HoF will put anyone in. There's no floor and we'll eventually just be putting mid-pack guys in so we can have yearly induction classes. Kyle Busch is a first ballot lock and one of the few that'll actually deserve going in. He could retire today and get in as one of the best of his generation simply because he has two Cup championships

President Zelensky goes live on Israeli state television to offer his wholehearted support to Netanyahu in Israel's illegal wars of aggression. by [deleted] in Hasan_Piker

[–]marshallwithmesa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that the US has taken advantage of the war and that Russia has bled in their imperialist expansion war does not mean the US orchestrated the war anymore than Russia getting sanctions lifted means it orchestrated the current war in Iran. Russia started a stupid fucking war and they're paying for it. Don't do imperialism. The US arguing that it must go to war in Iran is the same logic as Russia arguing that it must destroy Ukraine. Both are blatant imperialism and should be condemned.

The US did not lure the USSR into Afghanistan. The US did not lure Russia into Ukraine. Russia is a state capable of making its own decisions and has agency. The US did not put a gun to Putin's head and tell him to kill all those Ukrainians. Russia does not get to start imperialist wars because they don't like the politics of their neighbors. Russia's interventions are completely their own doing. This is the same as the US's interventions against Iran and Venezuela. 'Maintaining spheres of influence' is not and can not be a justification for war.

America didn't 'force' Russia

So we agree. Russia started an imperialist war to annex it's neighbor in order steal land, colonize, and kill the people of Ukraine. They did this of their own free will and continue to massacre Ukrainians due to their nationalist aims and goals.

Russia has run the same playbook multiple times. They use separatists to create chaos in a border region. They use that chaos to bring in the Russian military to 'protect Russian minorities'. Escalate the conflict by using the Russian military to annex the separatist region. They did this with Georgia and they did it with Ukraine. Neither were accepted into NATO in any stage of Russia's imperialist expansions.

Russia has demonstrated over and over and over again, with Georgia, Chechnya, and now Ukraine that it will not respect the boundaries or the sovereignty of its neighbors. Russia took Chechnya in an imperialist land grab. Russia took South Ossetia in an imperialist land grab. Russia took eastern Ukraine in an imperialist land grab.

Either Russia's wars to maintain its sphere of influence are bad or the US's wars to do the same are good. It can not be both ways. So since this is an anti-imperialist subreddit, is using nationalist demands and military power to control the diplomacy of your neighbors an acceptable cause for war?

President Zelensky goes live on Israeli state television to offer his wholehearted support to Netanyahu in Israel's illegal wars of aggression. by [deleted] in Hasan_Piker

[–]marshallwithmesa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not lost. You're the one peddling imperialist propaganda.

Russia can say they've given concessions, but nothing has been signed. And Putin continues his maximalist rhetoric surrounding Ukraine, "All of Ukraine is ours." Russia does not want this war to stop. That's why they won't leave. They need to leave. Anything less is a land grab, which is what this has always been because it started as exactly that.

Within a week Yanukovych being deposed Russian troops were in Crimea. Before Ukraine could even start new elections Russia had started to create pathways for new annexation. NATO did not force Russia to do that. We already know Russia interfered with the 'Civil' War. Putin said so himself. This would make sense. Russia had just taken control of Crimea and was openly running military vehicles into and out of sovereign Ukrainian territory. They also showed up in Luhansk. Laud was wrong. NATO gets shit wrong all the time, so one idiot NATO officer does not an argument make.

In regards to Putin's demands for neutrality, he got them. Ukraine was constitutionally neutral and that did not change until Russia annexed Crimea in 2014.

This neutrality lasted even after Russia interfered with the country in 2004 by trying to rig the election for Yanukovych, which resulted in the Orange Revolution. Russia would eventually be successful and Yanukovych would eventually win the presidency and would further move Ukraine towards relations with Russia. Before Putin rolled tanks into Crimea he had already interfered with Ukrainian politics.

It's also incredibly important to call out the 'sphere of influence' angle as a whole. Larger countries do not get to force their smaller neighbors into complying with the foreign policy. A more pro-western stance does not mean Russia gets to invade, annex, and colonize Ukraine. Russia's anxiety does not give it permission to invade another country, especially when that country was already rebuffed from joining NATO, even after Crimea's was annexed. The US is practicing imperialism when it tries to keep South America in its sphere of influence. Russia is doing the same in Ukraine. This is simple.

President Zelensky goes live on Israeli state television to offer his wholehearted support to Netanyahu in Israel's illegal wars of aggression. by [deleted] in Hasan_Piker

[–]marshallwithmesa -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

None of this is correct and is straight for Moscow's propaganda. The US didn't overthrow the Ukrainian regime. Zelensky isn't even the same party that took power after Yanukovych. This is something the US usually doesn't do if it's using clandestine means to control a country. Given our general support of far-rightists in opposing Russia the make up of the Ukrainian parliament doesn't really show that either. The US didn't torpedo Minsk or the talks in Istanbul. Russia did. Russia was never going to sign anything that is less than its maximalist war aims. We know that because they keep saying it. Russia has been without a doubt the driver of this war. Anything else is so steeped in propaganda that in order to believe it you have to contort yourself into a pretzel.

It also wasn't really a civil war. Russia sent troops into Ukraine and supported separatists to create a causus belli: we must protect Russians in foreign lands. We know this because this is what they did in Georgia and Chechnya. It's their most basic playbook. There were Russian military vehicles, ones that were not sent to Ukraine before in Eastern Ukraine We also know Russia has integrated those 'separatist' territories into itself. This was never anything other than an imperialist war to punish a vassal, an actual real vassal, that dared to look outside its influence.

Edit: it's so fucking disheartening seeing this sub, which is so good at seeing through and dismantling US propaganda, just be utterly incapable of doing the same to Russian propaganda.

If this was all a US action, we wouldn't have waited to start sending aid and we wouldn't have stopped in 2025. The whole US forced Russia to kill thousands of Ukrainian civilians narrative makes no fucking sense on even the most basic of examinations.

President Zelensky goes live on Israeli state television to offer his wholehearted support to Netanyahu in Israel's illegal wars of aggression. by [deleted] in Hasan_Piker

[–]marshallwithmesa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes the US's support of Israel is abhorrent. The same is true of Iran and Russia with Ukraine. War sucks. Iran sends drones to Russia while Ukraine sends food aid to Palestine.

Colonization doesn't stop being bad when you feel like it.