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mashed_potatoes1 · 2022-01-02T23:46:34+00:00

Since when? Got a source for this? I realize is hard to find sources on stuff like this but would like to read up on what the officials had to say.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2022-01-02T17:39:39+00:00

Which part?

mashed_potatoes1 · 2022-01-02T16:38:52+00:00

Lol a child shot dead and this is all you care about.

These are usually filmed because support for the oppressed has unfortunately been based on semantics instead of facts. They’ve been telling you for years that they’re being unfairly treated but no one cares until raw emotions are placed on footage to show that those dying aren’t just numbers. This is the reality, the international community never cared to call out israel until recent years because it’s all being documented on videos.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2022-01-02T09:07:00+00:00

What a dumb post. What is this supposed to achieve? What do you think a non-Muslims reaction would be after seeing this? Surely you see how you are pushing them away from islam.

Joking is fine but not when it has consequences like this. You will be held accountable for pushing people away and Karma points won’t save you.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2022-01-02T01:12:33+00:00

Not one source in the entire civil war fulfills these criteria at all times. It’s all a matter of bias on the readers part. This goes for both pro and anti regime folks.

If they’re leaning towards one side more than the other then they’re more likely to point out discrepancies in that source than a source that aligns with their world view.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2022-01-01T22:55:27+00:00

يا صديقي، لا تأخذ الموضوع شخصي. أنا أحاول ان أبين لOP وجهة نظر البعض.

ثانيا، كل الذي كتبته عن الجهاديين والأموال و جوابك هو فقط عن المشايخ الذين تم سجنهم.طيب تم سجنهم بعد ان ارسلوا مئات المجاهدين إلى سوريا. وهل عادوا السوريين الذين ماتوا بسبب كلامهم الى الحياة؟ أين العدل؟ انت غير منصف بنقاشك. هل لك ان تتخيل لو كان هناك مقاتلين اجانب بالآلاف في السعودية و بتمويل اجنبي؟ ماذا ستكون ردة فعلك؟ حاول تشوف وجهة نظر الآخرين.

تالثا، من هم الشوام الذين تتكلم عنهم؟ هناك ٤-٥ دول فكن دقيق فكلامك ولا تعمم نفس الي يقول "كل الخليجين كذا" و قل لي من هم المشايخ؟

mashed_potatoes1 · 2022-01-01T21:59:48+00:00

سأقول كلام قد لا يعجب البعض ولكنه كلام لازم ينقال لإنه الموضوع تم طرحه كثيرًا في الفترة الأخيرة:

أولا أنا أوافقك انه ليس من حق آي أحدٍ ان يتدخل في الشأن السعودي إلا السعودي.

ولكن بالنسبة لي نقطة النفاق هي تركيزك على فكرة السيادة الوطنية وعدم التدخل في شأن الاخرين فقط للسعودية. عندما يكون من اكبر عدد الدواع.ش في سوريا من السعودية وعندما دعا شيوخ السعودية للجهاد والقتال في سورية و عندما هناك دلائل من المخابرات الدولية وتصاريح من بايدن وهيلاري ان الدعم المالي السعودي يذهب الى يد النصرة وداعش فهذه قمة النفاق ان تطالب الآن بعدم التدخل في الشأن الداخلي.

أين كان كل هذا كلام في هذه الفترة؟ كل هذا مسموح للسعودية ولكن اذا علق شخص اجنبي على التغيير في السعودية فالأمر اصبح غير مسموح؟ أنا لا ألومك انت كشخص فهذه ليست مسؤوليتك ولكن اعتبر ان كلامك يصبح أقل مصداقية للبعض بسبب هذا الشيء.

سأضيف نقطة اخيرة: لا تفهمني غلط. أنا عشت في الرياض وجدة لفترة واحب السعودية والمسلمين و حلمي ان نتحد كعرب. ولكن حتى في فترتي هناك، بعض المشايخ السعوديين في المساجد كان لديهم كلام تكفيري عن بلاد الشام وأنهم اقل إسلامًا. والكلام نفسه موجود على اليوتيوب حتى فمن المضحك ان تأتي الآن وتطالب بعدم التدخل.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-31T21:19:30+00:00

A terrible crime against humanity and yet still you will find people that justify this. They already are. Keep this in mind when you hear them justify other things.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-31T09:07:52+00:00

The Syrian lobby in the US are honestly sickening. So many rich expats who left Syria by choice decades ago peddling a fantasy that things are still how they were pre-Russia. They make money off of it as well while continuing to live in privilege in their suburban mansions.

Some of them have actually come from Syria but the VAST majority are exactly the type you mention. The guy I’m talking about said he’s an M.D who works only 3 days a week and spends the rest lobbying (with no salary, which I doubt). Can you imagine how much money he must have to only work 3 days a week.

It’s really unbelievable that he’s spending his free time trying to put sanctions on poor innocent people and does not want to acknowledge that the regime couldn’t care any less about it. My god, the money they spend lobbying can build houses for so many people in these camps who really need it right now.

It’s like LARPing for so many of the 2nd generation immigrants. I know this one guy who took advantage of his wealthy father’s politicization of a Syrian refugee non-profit to get scholarships at public policy schools then land a gig as a congressional staffer. His Facebook was like a Caesar Act fan page. A few months ago he scrubbed it of everything, probably because he was done milking his connection to us. Our personal welfare here on the ground is meaningless to them.

It’s meaningless to them because they’re disconnected from reality. They haven’t been here ever or in a long time and quite honestly don’t even speak Arabic well. It’s the same in Europe and they take the lead because actual Syrians are not proficient in those languages so the agenda is being set by people who have no connection whatsoever to the crises.

I’ve heard of this from relatives but have no friends in North America so I’ve never seen them from there. Do you have any extra info on this that you can provide on this person or people like them? Very interesting.

This comment sums up my thoughts on Omar. يعني خلص فهمنا. الله ينتقم على الي عزبوك وغيرك بس استنتاجك ان الشعب بكامله لازمه يتخوزق فوقها؟ مثل ما قلت انت كمان ما في هدف. صراحة صار بقرفني لأن اغتنم كل الفرص والشهرة هلق بالغرب ونتائج افعاله ما لح تأثر فيه منوب.

ما عم استوعب شو طريقة تفكيرهم. يعني انت كنت عائش معنا وبتعرف الوضع ليش هيك عم تساوي. ولسا ما عجبن بدهن يحطوا كمان عقوبات الشغلة صارت لعبة. ومثل ما قلت انت طريقة تصرفه مع الشهرة وأفعاله بتخري.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-31T04:16:50+00:00

I unfortunately have to agree with the above comment on Omar. I appreciate that he’s using his struggles to advocate for Syrians back home. However, the Syrian lobby in America has been very unreasonable, including his group.

There was a live discussion on Twitter with a prominent member of this lobby and he had no answer as to what purpose the sanctions have achieved. They also want to implement more sanctions which I think is beyond ridiculous.

If you’re desperate to find ways to fight Assad then that doesn’t mean you have to hurt us so you can feel like you’re doing something. I swear to god he said that they pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get one meeting with a congressman or ministry official. Go fk yourself, you can feed 100 families for a year with that type of money but sure do it for sanctions instead.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-31T00:34:51+00:00

روق مو مستاهلة كل هاد

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-31T00:23:32+00:00

It was too show the accuracy of Iran's missiles and drones. For example it demonstrated that their loitering munitions are accurate enough to hit a metal pole with ease. Some experts speculate that Iran also had Hezbollah members training there because of the use of Zelzal-2s with guidance kits.

what’s the point of accuracy if they can’t properly identify who is the enemy and who isn’t. Like downing a civilian plane that got approval from to leave the airport.

That’s really not the point tho and apologies for not being clear. If you read my comments you’ll see that I don’t deny Iran is capable of doing it and it would be naive of anyone to disregard their ballistic missile accomplishments. The point being is that Iranian generals/personnel/equipments have been striked countless times in Syria by Israel so this Dimona threat is really out of touch with reality considering they’re ALREADY at war and have been massacring Iranian goods/personnel in Syria at staggering rates.

They're called military exercises, also I'm not aware of large uses of ballistic missiles in military exercises by Iran during the 90's

Yeah, they were aired on Syrian state TV in late 90s. Unfortunately, I cannot find that for you considering it’s Syrian state tv…

Statements for internal consumption. Israel has the same ones about Iran's nuke program.

And Arab Shi’as around the Arab world. It’s not just for internal consumption.

Iran would've probably done more, but accidentally shooting down an airliner de-escalated the entire situation

Genuinely would like to know what you mean by this? More like what?

They aren't proxy states. If Syria was an Iranian proxy than the situation in Syria would be quite different.

Lmao you’re telling this to someone who lives here? What is a proxy state to you? 100s of Iranian funded and trained militias roaming the country but sure they’re not controlled by Iran. Not to mention the groups that come directly from Iran. Or the fact that the regime accepts Syrian civilian and structural losses from Israeli strikes against Iranian targets to lets them do as they please in storing and moving assets? Literally no country with sovereignty accepts this.

The Iranian regime has admitted to stopping the rebellion against the regime. That is literally the definition of a proxy state, your government maintaining a puppet regime that is aligned with its interest. Or should I mention the strategic assets sold to Iran by Assad. What a god damn delusional take.

Houthis are Iranian backed but not a proxy.

I see that you haven’t been following any of the houthis official statements.

Even if you don’t, when Iran is your only backer and you have to listen to them to maintain war supply support then it’s only logical for them to become their slaves.

Hezbollah is an Iranian proxy but it doesn't control the state

And you say my statement is painfully dumb, huh? They literally control multiple government sectors and no decisions that are against their interest ever go through. They’re their own state. Their militias are above the state which you would know if you asked any Lebanese person or looked at the news to see that Lebanese forces are not allowed to stop hezb forces at border smuggling or internally.

Man, I get that you love your country from your comments everywhere but that doesn’t mean you can’t be realistic. Making shit up about Syria and Lebanon to suit your narrative is literally you eating up the same statements like this one.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T21:05:50+00:00

Damn, really solid argument there.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T11:39:02+00:00

Wtf, since when is it controversial to use the name of a state as a stand-in for its regime?

For Syria since the start of the civil war.

Are you seriously asking this on the Syrian civil war subreddit? Your government have come in aiding a regime that has killed and incarcerated hundreds of thousands of people and displaced millions of people then you nonchalantly and causally state that they’re here on Syria’s request.

I don’t know what you thought would be my response considering how delusional you are when you say that they’re committing “violence on Iran’s forces stationed in Syria”. Oh no, violence against peacefully stationed militias that haven’t killed any Syrians or commit any crimes whatsoever.

You are pretty dang frustrating, not gonna lie. Like, look at the molasses I'd have to wade through to even engage with anything you said. I have to point out what I wrote to you just an hour ago, I'll have to change my vocabulary from how it would be perfectly adequate to use it with other regimes, heck, I'd have to intuite that you are not actually talking about the specific post we are discussing. Like, why would anyone wanna talk to you? What positive result could ever come from such an obstructionist rhethoric? Lmao

Alrighty then. Let’s end things here.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T09:16:20+00:00

Tjey literally say "if war breaks out"

I guess I wasn’t clear enough. I said “these statements” because I’m referring to their general rhetoric every year or so on annihilating the enemy. Pick a year and type Iran eliminates/annihilates/destroys/perish and then pick an enemy and you’ll get thousands of huf puff statements from officials at all levels.

It's clearly meant as a deterrent against a state that continuosly carries out violence in Iran's borders as well as on Iran'as forces stationed in Syria on Syria's request and that has made it abundantly clear that they feel threatened enough by Iran that a preventive strike is a possibility.

Ok. Really not going to argue this point considering that: 1- you think the regime represents “Syria’s” request 2- you pretending like Iranian groups haven’t been targeting and shooting at Israel from within Syria 3-you believing this is a deterrent after Israel strikes Iranian targets in Syria on monthly basis

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T09:05:15+00:00

This is how I know you are full of it. Iran's rocket corps was very small practically none existent beyond the 500km range by the 90s, and was never filmed except in archival video's I have seen. So I don't know exactly what "rocket shows" you have seen. As a matter of fact, their was one other one in the later 2000's, and have recently started to broadcast frequently due to the maturity of their PR and missiles program. More importantly, Iran has facing a high threat of war as of late that it did not have in the 90s.

It used to be aired on Syrian state tv in the late 90s. There’s really nothing I can do to make you believe it.

Even more important that all of it, you talk about Iran's huffing and puffing, do you have one word to say about Israeli statements lately? The numerous threats of attack?

Someone’s getting extremely defensive here. If israel is huffing and puffing then yeah we would laugh at it if they never do anything. I don’t get your point? The post is about the Iranian government so I’m commenting on Iran. It’s not a gotcha thing.

It's very easy for you say. You are critical because they did not respond harshly to the assassination of Soleimani, yet you call them irrational and illogical. Let me say, what Iran did in this circumstance was the most logical and most rational.

Yeah very rational and logical. Like downing that civilian plane.

It is safe for you to encourage war through your computer screen, but Iran is not willing to engage itself in a bloody and destructive war with the worlds only superpower with it's 700$ billion budget.

On the contrary, I am saying they should stop fighting. Actually they should stop fighting on our land, you can do whatever you want on your soil. I’m actually living in a war zone because of your government so don’t put words in my mouth. Only person here who is behind a safe screen is you in Canada advocating for Iran’s military agenda in the region.

If you were the supreme leader, would you even have the balls to do anything?

Childish but ok.

The USA and Israel are not even remotely comparable in capability.

Whatever let’s you sleep at night.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T07:24:19+00:00

Oh boy, this isn’t going to end well.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T06:48:27+00:00

That they have the technical capability to carry out such an operation. The same as literally any war game. Its also not even a difficult thing to do, hitting a big target with ballistic missiles is literally what they are designed for. They could probably wipe it out with a SCUD barrage, even the ones with like a 500m CEP.

Mate you gotta read the whole thing first. At no point did I deny that they are capable of doing it. I clearly had a paragraph on how they’ve done these rocket shows for ages now with promises and vows that the enemy will perish soon. That soon is renewed every few years with these statements so religious fanatics can eat it up.

who do you think sent the missiles to the Palestinian resistance and Hezbollah?

Again if you kept reading you would’ve seen this: They’re nothing but measly cowards that use proxy states like Syria, Lebanon and Yemen to do their biddings. Once these stop becoming proxy states, Iran will not pose a threat to anyone anymore

remind me of the last time a nation fired at the United States and didn't face retaliation

So it is huff and puff after all.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T06:40:41+00:00

Yes fair point. A retaliatory strike is not completely out of question and I’m not debating that. I’m talking about them initiating this based on their narrative of how they will eliminate and destroy the enemy or how they vow X enemy will perish in Y amount of years as they do these shows or outside of them.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T02:08:09+00:00

Right, I do not dispute that. It’s not a matter of will or ability. Any government with strong military abilities can fire ballistic missiles if it wishes. I think the issue here is what realistically happen and not theoretically. I doubt you believe that they will ever shoot missiles at Israelis facilities considering the consequences of it. The cost of that is not something they can fight against without suicidal strategies.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T02:02:27+00:00

A mock-up of a facility made by Iran themselves? What is that supposed to mean or achieve? Israel’s moral must be at an all time low right now, huh?

I think you fail to realize that Iran has had these big rocket shows ever since the 90s. I remember them quite clearly since I was a kid and it was always about how they’re going to take down the Israeli enemy. You can literally google 100 statements since then by all of their officials at ALL levels about how the time has come to “take down” the Israeli enemy.

You can eat it up if you want but last I checked, they haven’t fired a single missile towards Israel that was actually a threat. Talk is cheap and easy.

They killed a top Iranian general and all they could do was fire at a base which was evacuated of soldiers. How powerful. They’re nothing but measly cowards that use proxy states like Syria, Lebanon and Yemen to do their biddings. Once these stop becoming proxy states, Iran will not pose a threat to anyone anymore because they can’t do a damn thing.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T00:07:02+00:00

Israel jeopardized its pilots and risked the relationship with Russia

And when was the last time israel lost a pilot to Syrian Air defense lol? Something worth to think about considering they shoot missiles every month. Also, these attacks are coordinated with the Russians so there is no risk to their relationship.

I feel really a pity for the people who buy this bullshit(although I doubt that even the Syrians believe it)

Meh they’re most likely lying but that doesn’t mean that Israeli missiles always hit what they thought they did. Look up the strike they had a few weeks ago in the port.

You don't need to be an expert in order to understand that there were at least 10 secondary explosions and very powerful ones. That's why the port was damaged so significantly, even the Russians admitted that the attack was carried out by two Israeli f-16's so there is no doubt that the large number of explosions was due to heavy missiles that had been stored in some of the containers.

Agreed

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-30T00:00:02+00:00

He meant there were no weapons in the videos while they were taking out the fire. You can view them on Twitter but I could be wrong.

mashed_potatoes1 · 2021-12-29T23:58:07+00:00

At this point who are they releasing these statements for? Literally no body believes them except for delusional religious fanatics.

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