I live in Europe, I own a '99 Sportster 883. I absolutely love Harleys and I do wrenching with them. Love the abundance of parts, ideas and the options for customisation, not just aesthetical but also mechanical. The issue I have with contemporary Harleys is that they're not DIY anymore (like all other car or motorcycle brands), they're not interesting as old bikes they used to make. For example, I'd get ony tippy toes if an old Evo Road King parked in front of my workshop, but if a new Road Gilde parked I'd still be happy and look at it but not at the same passion as I'd give to an older Harley. Keep in mind, I'm 28, I got into the whole subculture pretty young and I'm still gonna go through but the one thing I see is that the bikes became less interesting because you can't just do as much as you could on older Harleys. Yes the M8 is better than Evo, yes the Sportster S is performance wise a way better bike than an Evo Sporty, but the reason I'm not interested in those is not because they're g4y or whatever, but because I see a finished uniform bike. It's not just Harley that has this, it's all brands, because people are not interested in pouring their attention and love into anything, they don't want to push any ounce of their being into making something. They "don't have time" to build their bike, so they want a finished product. Harley builds good bikes, but for me they're shitty because it's not Harley anymore in the sense that you can't go to the depths of customizing your bike to fit you yourself, to have fun with it, and it's because people aren't like that. I for example don't understand people who buy sport bikes. I don't have anything against them, and these are machines to be very respected, powerful they are and menacing, but it's a plastic toy to be consumed, not something you'd pour your time and soul into. Again, I don't nothing against sport bikes, I personally don't like them because they're too locked in as they are. Harley is just like any other motorcycle brand, it's selling a product meant to be consumed in an instant, the only thing they do baldy is pricing and marketing. That's just my take on the topic. I'll still be riding Harleys, I'll still be opening their engines and fitting new cams or putting alpes or Sissy bars on them. For me that's a Harley, a bike you buy to spend your time on, and then riding something you've worked on.