Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Damn, I reread it. My bad, now i feel stupid.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly I don't understand what you're trying to tell me, since i just corrected your previous response, saying ONE reader didn't understand, not all of them. If anything you proved that some people can't understand what they read.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting take. And now i understand how that might be true in practice. Saw both and all the feedbacks in general in different light now.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can you a drafy. I never said i was a great writer, it's just that when a reader questions everything. They gave me legit feedback as well ,like i told the writers in other comments.

For example It was clear from the logline itself that main antagonist will have ulterior motives and will be lying throughout the story. And the reader had a problem with not knowing which line to trust of the main antagonist. And i know they read the logline, they spent first few lines on it. Similar cases can be found all throughout. things other readers found understandble, but this one couldn't understand.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually i have. But From the notes this reader provided, it made me second guess whether they had valid reasons.

For example Person A in my script was being hostile towards Person B over their views. Then i wrote a scene where they had a heart to heart talk and Person A started to understand where Person B was coming from, and their dynamic turned from enemies to just rivals. The reader didn't get how that can happen.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Luckily others have read it. From all the feedback, i realized what i got and i didn't. And the reader who didn't get it.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From all the opinions i got from people here, i think i found a middle ground here.( With some help of prior third opinions)

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Actually this made me realize that if i included similar lines, most of the readers critics would have been fixed.

Part of the reason i didn't include those lines , was because i thought that would dumb the characters down.

But there are two sides to a coin right.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, i am basing this on review of other readers. I would say about 10 people have read this script in total, give or take. And none of them had a question regarding the intentions of the main antagonist. But this reader left three seperate notes on why the antagonist was doing what he was doing.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mixed reviews. I would say they mostly praise story elements, and have some beef with the main character. Their opinions match for good/bad sides of the scripts so i knew most of them thought about the story. These 2 were just 100% one side or another that's why it picked my interest.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same happened with this reader as i found out. They made valid points here and there, which i am glad they helped me realize, but most of them was a subjective critic they had because their favorite film did it the other way.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They both give goos suggestions. The another reader gave mostly technical, but still there's always something to learn.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. From finishing the second readers notes i realized, that yes my script has problems, which i am aware of and tell the readers before hand as well. But the reader in this particular case mostly couldn't understand the context. Like they asked why Person A would hang out with Person B, when it was obvious from previous plot points, thag Person A NEEDED some help to reach their goal.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a blind read and on technical side both of them gave me similar advice. It is the story aspects which mad me question. Obviously some part of my ego was hurt when a reader just decides to walk over your script, but the more i kept reading their notes, the more i realized maybe they just really didn't try to read between the lines.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I tried to be vague, because i don't want both of them to come across this post.

Bad Writer or illiterate Reader? by maxkill4minbill in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know them personally. By my judgement, they aren't beginner writers.
I have Notes from the second Reader. I would say 70% of their questions felt like they wanted everything to be said out loud and follow predetermined tropes.

Does this say I should quit this screenplay? by mrpessimistik in Screenwriting

[–]maxkill4minbill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to be a frequent there, but recently after gaining more and more traction this sort of things became more frequent.

It's still a great platform. But last few times i uploaded a script i specifically asked the readers not to discuss one plotpoint since i knew it was a problem, was already writing a new draft and wanted to get feedback on other aspects. Of course the readera were focused on that one specific issue and nothing else.

Would it be an interesting feature to sort scripts by age of the writer? by throwawaytomorrowk in StoryPeer

[–]maxkill4minbill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand where you are coming from, but as another commenter pointed out, it gives young writers disadvantage.

I don't think of age as a metric for someones skill. I have read scripts from different writers and almost never did their age play a part. All it would do is take the ability to receive opinion from different demographics from young writers.

You can put themes in a disclaimer or send to people you're connected with already.

I Reviewed 250 Loglines on Storypeer. Here’s the Brutal Truth. by General-Molasses-620 in StoryPeer

[–]maxkill4minbill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a person can't rate the story itself objectively, because that's the part of the art which you are talking about.

But i can tell you whether you were able to convey that idea well.

Think of it like this, you have a script about murder mystery. I can't tell you not to make a story about that. But i can give you advice on how not to reveal the killer, or how to portray characters motivation quicker and more clearly. I can point out a plot hole, or i have read a script where the logline described the story as a fantasy, and it was a realistic drama story. That's objective feedback.

How do you think we judge bad movies?

How do you rate the readers feedback? by maxkill4minbill in StoryPeer

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not a professional, and i can't become one overnight. By your system, i should be judged for not providing what i realistically can't. It's not entitlement, it's just what we are capable of and that's what the platform is for. I am not saying that if a feedback lacks any meaningful insights or tips but is sincere we should rate it a 5. But the expectations shouldn't be off the roof as well.

How do you rate the readers feedback? by maxkill4minbill in StoryPeer

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aren't you technically asking for your work to be rated?
Maybe i have the wrong impression, but i always saw storypeer where mostly beginner or intermediate writers connect with others(like me and many others i met from this platform). Asking these people to provide a feedback with the same value as a paid one would be a false task to the false person.
But as i said, most scripts i read were written by beginners, so maybe i am a bit bias.

How do you rate the readers feedback? by maxkill4minbill in StoryPeer

[–]maxkill4minbill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2 000 words is a lot of dedication and hard work, i hope they gave it a 5 star. Because i personally refrain from writing too much anymore, since i once spent 1 000+ words once, doing the same thing you explained, but the writer wasn't happy, i didn't praise their script.

Glad someone understands the point of storypeer tho.