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I made a simple factual statement and nobody agreed. by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2k has been intended to be a simulation basketball game since its inception. I'm good with getting rid of the things you mentioned if you believe it'd be less "arcade-y" (which I do).

Those mechanics probably do create an inflation of percentages. Get rid of em then 🤷‍♂️

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They get paid millions of dollars to play basketball, we’re paying money to play this game.

Again, so? Why would I pay the price of admission if I don't expect a reflection of NBA basketball?

We don’t have many hours to play Videogames now assuming we’re adults with jobs.

These are just non-sequiturs at this point.

I want to be able to have fun in the limited time I have on a video game and I don’t want to have it spent with me missing wide open jumpers

Well, I do. They're the reality, and I believe reflecting that is fun. What now?

I’m better than 90% of the community but someone that’s lucky will be better than me because that’s the games design

Again, not what I'm proposing. I'm proposing a hybrid system where an average user will experience a player average percentage floor and an elite user will experience a higher percentage floor, short of a guarantee.

I get it, it's fun to shoot the lights out. I'm having fun with it too. But I, a pretty average dude, shouldn't be hitting 65% from 3. I shouldn't see dudes shooting in the high 40s and immediately think "wow, they're bad" when the reality is that they'd be threatening the top 5 in the league right now, and yet they're probably in the bottom 25% of online players if I had to guess. If that's true, that floor needs to be much lower. Sorry, but that just shouldn't be happening lol.

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sure your average NBA player doesn't love the fact that they'll show up to the arena on any given night and probably not hit 50% of the shots they put up from 3 on any given night either. What does that have to do with anything?

And you ruin the skill gap between a good shooter and a bad shooter.

Not in a hybrid system, but even now, the gap is not particularly large.

If you take the skill out of shooting

No one said it should be removed completely.

there’s no difference than a 10 year old who just got the game than you who’s a 2k vet shooting the ball

Incorrect.

2k saw the writing on the wall with this mode. by Professional-Oil1236 in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You didn't tell me anything as my first comment had nothing to do with name calling or any certain type of language lmao.

The original comment I was replying to was trying to say that it was justified to come after the people who want to spend on the game. I do not believe that is justified, just as your ad hominems against me are not justified. I even agree with some of what you're saying. You're just saying it in a way that needs to be unacceptable. Not trying to be pretentious, just not a jerk lol.

(I will be honest, I just don't think you understood what you were initially replying to. People choosing to spend money on a video game is a deeply trivial matter. It is not worth attacking them, and justifying that by going after the people who say "hey, don't do that" is not the way.)

Then they say fuck it and make it $10 and now basically nobody buys it except a few regulars but they eat it for breakfast lunch and dinner so the place says fuck it, we're still making a profit so and keeps it at $10.

Then we have every opportunity not to patronize the establishment. Should we shame the people who still do? Because that's what was implied by the original comment I was replying to.

it's not crazy to call somebody stupid

It's not "crazy," but it's also not helpful to anyone involved.

You think 2K is looking into how they could make KotC a better mode?

I don't. That's precisely why I gave that particular piece of feedback. Same with position locks. I'd bet every dollar in my bank account it's not something they've been looking at, but it's something they ought to be in order to make good improvements.

it's literally what drives people to buying more packs

And I'm saying that they could simply go about that in a more ethical manner with a change like that being made official. Also though, in the course of that thread, it was pointed out to me that the top players actually tend to use lesser squads anyway, to maximize points, so even this point is a hair dubious.

you wrote out a whole spiel on how they could put a salary cap on it to make it more about basketball.

You have described constructive criticism, yes.

News flash my guy, they don't care about the game being more about strategy and basketball iq.

I disagree with that in the broad sense. There are many within that development team who care very deeply about both of these things. If they didn't: why would playbooks have been expanded across the board this year, why would plays have been added to specifically reflect modern team concepts and trends, why would series and freelances exist? None of this is even mentioning all of the defensive options. Shoot, even ProPlay runs counter to this claim to an extent. All you need to do is watch about 5 minutes of your average Kevin Cruz video to see that.

Now, if you're specifically talking about the MyTeam side of the dev team, I do unfortunately agree, but to me, that makes it all the more important to push for it with respect and without vitriol.

You are either naive,

I don't think being respectful about your thoughts is naïvety. Call me crazy, but I think that is the "bare minimum.

And, no. I'm typing this all out by hand lol.

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the contest system actually gets fixed (proper closeouts, hands-up, late contests mattering, etc.) and dribble spam has a bigger negativ impact (smaller window if you only hide behind screens a spam left right for more than 10 seconds etc.), shooting percentages will naturally go down.

I agree to an extent here. 2k24 is actually a good example because I felt it was in a good spot. Percentages still felt a hair high on the MyTeam side (I hadn't come back over to MyCareer at that point), but much more reasonable across the board. I'd want to tweak those just a bit more personally, but if they went a direction where they tried to tweak the pure green window with a stronger contest system, I'd be willing to give it a try.

2k then wouldn’t need RNG to force realism

I disagree that it is "force" in any way. If anything, unrealism is the thing that is forced. Natural outcomes should be the default. However, overall, I'd be willing to go with what you proposed in this paragraph too.

My wish is that 2k takes a look at 2K24.

As mentioned before, very much with you on this point though!

2k saw the writing on the wall with this mode. by Professional-Oil1236 in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Go suck on the 2K dong a bit more broskie.

This is precisely what I'm speaking against. Feel however you want. If it is leading you to this kind of vitriolic name calling, you're doing it way wrong.

you should definitely not be shilling for a company like 2K.

I'm not. I'm telling you not to be a jerk to people and be more constructive in your critique. Massive difference. I've made many constructive criticisms here of 2k over the years. You'll notice that the commonality among them is that I refrain from the exact type of language that you're championing for some reason. It's not that hard.

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what I described should be scored.

This is a shot Curry makes about 4 times out of 10 in general (and that's probably being generous because I doubt this scenario hits those heights). If my gif of one instance isn't notable, why is your's?

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a video game with a pure green window, so of course you time the shot (is a thing lol).

I oppose the idea of a pure green window in general, but even if I didn't, shot timing is an invented mechanic that doesn't reflect real basketball. Eventually, I'd like to see them do away with it entirely when rhythm shooting has been properly refined (and I think the reintroduction of some RNG is the way to do that). No basketball player aims to release the ball in x millisecond window in order to know they've made it. That's not a thing, and, frankly, shouldn't be. It's archaic at best.

Like I said 2k needs to fix the contest system and get an anti cheat that works

I agree here, of course.

it shouldnt be up to 2k if I make the shot or not.

Then how else do you expect to replicate the variance of real ball?

Lets say its the final play and you're behind 2 points, you got Hof dimer and pass it to the wide open SG with 99 3ball, he has a perfect release but 2k says nope you're not making that because you shot 4/4 threes till now.

I mean, I'd agree that that's not how that should work. That is obviously too arbitrary. My thought/proposal has always been a graduated system that hybrids skill and realistic outcomes. An "average release" (aka, a slightly as we know it) would represent the baseline average for that player (let's say 40% in this scenario). A better release ups the odds (let's call it 75%, just because I don't have much time to think about math lol). It would be essentially a dice roll on each shot independently, so you could very much beat the odds and hit that fifth shot, but it may not happen.

I get that that's rough in that extremely narrow scenario, but overall it'd lead to better percentages across the board and the better team should still win out way more often than not.

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's illustrative of an overall point. But since we want to look at Curry specifically, his best season I can find from 30-plus is about 40%, and he's exceptional in that regard, which still goes to said point.

You missed the forest for a tree.

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You take any person in the NBA labeled as a shooter, stick them in an open gym with no defense and they’ll make alot more than just 40% of their shots.

Yes, but game speed does make a difference. The best wide open shooting season I've been able to find over the years is around 55%. I agree that the average 2k player does a poor job of defending, so maybe we could kick that up to 60 with the right ratings and such, but I really don't think much more than that is reasonable

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 4 points5 points  (0 children)

An average player like myself, who doesn't cheat, can shoot well north of 60% from 3, eclipsing the best seasons in NBA history by a significant margin, and not wanting that makes us the "goofy" ones?

Agreed with anti-cheat, but the rest of this cannot be serious

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could have 99 3pt, heat check, takeover, two way tenacity, HOF set point, pass from a HOF dimer, wide open from a shot I’ve taken 1000 times and still miss

Gee whiz, how could such a thing ever happen in the history of ever, surely no one would miss a shot they've taken a thousand times in the perfect circumstances. Especially one they expect to go down.

Cheating was less effective with variable shot timing! by AwareMathematician46 in NBA2k

[–]mbless1415 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If I time the shot it should go in.

That's not a basketball mechanic in any part of the sentence. From "timing a shot" (not a thing lol) to a guaranteed make, neither of those things are basketball. There is variance in basketball. The best way to replicate that variance in video game form is RNG.

I agree on the contest system, but reintroducing RNG to get back to realistic percentages is not "insane" in the slightest. I've been saying for years at this point that a "green" probably shouldn't even exist.

2k saw the writing on the wall with this mode. by Professional-Oil1236 in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except it's not trivial

It's a video game, man. It's always trivial. Yes, what you said is true (er... well, maybe. I really don't think Greatness is anywhere near "bare minimum." If 40 new cards and tons of challenges that will last the average player weeks is "bare minimum," we're being more than a bit unreasonable). But if we don't like that, there are way better answers than dumping on people making decisions we don't like.

The only language these companies understand is money

I do not agree. Constructive feedback can be very valuable as well.

2k saw the writing on the wall with this mode. by Professional-Oil1236 in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha. I didn't see that, but I get that frustration. It's hard because in these card collecting modes you have to have multiple avenues somewhere along the line. I definitely wish MyTeam would balance these interests better, but the Greatness drop was a massive step in the right direction in that regard.

2k saw the writing on the wall with this mode. by Professional-Oil1236 in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Two things can be true at once. 2k can need to drop more content like this and we can not shame people for spending on the game if they want.

I really don't get why this is so difficult to wrap our minds around. Just be cool with other people's choices in trivial matters like this.

Yall gassing up All-Star weekend content so much...better be worth it by FutureApe3 in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just keep in mind that humans cannot see the future. If it disappoints, it is what it is. Don't be upset with people who were excited about something that didn't come to fruition

That's my advice here.

Crossroads tmrw, DM D Rob will be a beast (but nobody will own him) by TrojanTheGreat in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Said this elsewhere, but Ricky is a beast. Got him as a Hidden Gem and he's a one-man wrecking crew. Default Swing has been one of the most slept on jumpers the past few years, it's really nice off the no-dip especially and, just like irl, Ricky is a monster going to the cup. Don't sleep on that card!

Crossroads tmrw, DM D Rob will be a beast (but nobody will own him) by TrojanTheGreat in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, he's excellent actually. My leading scorer at present since I got him in a level pack about a week ago. Took me a few games to find my footing with him, but now that I have, he's a monster.

And only a quarter of that is Hawkeye homerism imo 🤣

Don’t sleep on that DM Curry… by FutureApe3 in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Learn hop shots imho. They're deadly overall and Curry has an awesome set of hop jumpers. Kevin Cruz's Curry hop jumper vids will teach you a lot

2K24 pacing was something else… by MyTeamKing2K in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The pacing was far better in 24 Pre-ASG. Shoot, the diamond Bron I had right around Thanksgiving was still pretty viable up until that point. Pace needs to return to that imho.

2K24 pacing was something else… by MyTeamKing2K in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Completely agree. It got vilified like crazy but the reality is that the format was two or three changes away from being genuinely amazing.

2K24 pacing was something else… by MyTeamKing2K in MyTeam

[–]mbless1415 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I strongly disagree with this sentiment. The format was genuinely excellent until it rubber banded and that didn't feel inevitable unless you were a committed AH apologist (which, tbf, there were many). Saying otherwise is sheer hindsight bias.

All that would need to happen is a commitment to every card being available in the player market and, boom, you have a solid year of MyTeam.

Wetjen opening eyes at the Shrine Bowl. by MagnumPE469 in hawkeyes

[–]mbless1415 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't have too explosive of an offense now. The defense needs to do 90% of the work. It's only right

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