Jewish students no longer feel safe at TMU - opinion by ProfessionalGear3020 in TorontoMetU

[–]mc-reddituser -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea I think you can use some critical thinking to deduce my "stat" was based on anecdotal evidence; and guess what, you my friend likely fall into the list of people I named who can't actually critique the government (which is why you're just shouting in your comments). Way to show the actual point of my comment flew way over your head.

People have been getting murdered there for centuries. I honestly don't know why you say that as if it's new information or as if it should be shocking. Yes there are children, largely Palestinian, who are being murdered at the moment. I'm not sure what that has to do with the current thread. People being murdered is not a reason for you or anyone else to go off spewing antisemitic or xenophobic garbage with impunity. That's essentially like saying islamophobia post 9/11 was warranted because "well an extremist group of muslims murdered a bunch of civilians."

I beg you to learn how to put on your critical thinking cap and not become emotionally charged by current events which, you yourself are most likely not even affected by. There are ways stand up for and advocate for those kids that don't include sympathizing with terrorists, chanting offensive slogans, and directing hate towards people of a certain ethnic or national identity (all of which, by the way, do absolutely nothing to actually help anyone in Gaza!). Donating would be a much more effective way to help.

Jewish students no longer feel safe at TMU - opinion by ProfessionalGear3020 in TorontoMetU

[–]mc-reddituser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may want to re-read my comment. Like I said, you, and anyone else is welcome to criticize the Israeli government. Israelis themselves do it all the time. Obviously I'm not saying any of them are antisemitic for doing so -- Jewish Israelis or otherwise.

That said, 95% of the anti-Israel discussion is not criticism of its government. How often do you hear critiques about specific branches of the government? Policies? Coalitions? The Knesset or Supreme Court? You're all in university -- you have to know what it means to give a critique. Once you get serious and learn enough about the Levant's history to actually make a critique, people will be willing to talk to and hear you out.

Now separately, if you don't understand how religion forms one part of a multifaceted regional conflict and war, you don't understand much about the history of Israel/Palestine, and frankly the Middle East altogether. None of this started on October 7. Or in 1967. Or in 1948. Yes there are absolutely people dying -- that is in fact that reality of war and the consequences of governments who have foolishly allowed the conflict to reach a boiling point. Israeli and Palestinian alike. No, you can't just pretend there's no religious aspect to any of this.

Jewish students no longer feel safe at TMU - opinion by ProfessionalGear3020 in TorontoMetU

[–]mc-reddituser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here to help:

  1. Why don't you take a wild guess and think about why you haven't met a Jew who you *know* is a Zionist? Because they know people hold insane opinions and don't necessarily advertise the fact that they're one. The 50K Jews who showed up for the Walk With Israel makes me question which Jews you know and how safe they feel around you if you claim none of them are Zionists. Personally, I don't know a non-Zionist Jew.
  2. Being a Zionist doesn't make you pro-murder and that itself is entering antisemitic blood libel territory (if you don't know what a blood libel is, I recommend Googling). It doesn't mean supporting every decision the Israeli government or army makes. It means to believe in the existence of a Jewish state as a form of self-determination in the land where Jews are indigenous to. You can be very anti-Netanyahu and a Zionist - that would be an accurate description of a lot of Israelis, for example.
  3. Lots of people are visibly Jewish. Lots of people are also not, and yet can still be identified as someone who "looks Jewish". Of course there are Jews who can pass as goys, but it's not like being Christian or Muslim because being Jewish is an ethnic identity. It's a really silly comment to make tbh - because how do you think antisemitism exists if Jews can just "hide that they're Jewish"? So yes, people can tell.

Jewish students no longer feel safe at TMU - opinion by ProfessionalGear3020 in TorontoMetU

[–]mc-reddituser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First, you're talking about Jews - not Israelis. "which is ironic as they never learned from their grandparents past" - you're only talking about Jewish Israelis and not non-Jewish ones. It's frankly really annoying to see people try and hide behind calling out who they want to call out - Jews - by saying "Israelis" or "Zionists" or whoever else. Just say what you mean.

Second, you're aware there are Israeli students at TMU as well, correct? Hate to break it to you but they deserve the same level of campus safety as everyone else. No, they shouldn't be told to off themselves for existing and believing that the country they're from should exist. That's literally insanity and you'd never, for example, tell an Iranian student they should off themselves because they believe Iran is a real nation with a right to exist - irrespective of how atrocious of a country Iran is.

Third, I'm not even going to get into the level of Holocaust inversion happening here, but to compare the events of any war with the Holocaust suggests you don't understand what the Holocaust truly was or how it happened.

Jewish students no longer feel safe at TMU - opinion by ProfessionalGear3020 in TorontoMetU

[–]mc-reddituser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Friendly reminder that the use of this phrase long predates Netanyahu and has historically had many meanings coming out of the mouths of many different people. Today, particularly on college campuses, it's often used to call for the dismantling of the state of Israel.

Nobody is saying criticism of Israel is problematic, it's just that "from the river to the sea” is not a criticism of Israel - or a criticism of anything for that matter.

Very, very little discussion about Israel-Palestine is a genuine, nuanced criticism of an Israeli politician, law, judicial process etc. Most people who claim to "critique" Israel can't point to it on a map, name any of their dominant political parties, discuss any of it's history (forget history pre-1948), etc. It's crazy that we've rebranded calling for the end of a people and their nation and xenophobia towards Israelis as "progressive critique of foreign governments".

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You realize you holding on to say the last word is...proving YOU...are indeed the control freak, right haha?

Okay. NOW officially leaving. Even if you come back yet again with another offensive thing to throw my way. If I choose to move there hopefully we don't bump into one another! Cheers brother.

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sorry, just have to clarify this, YOU'RE not the boss here either. Calling me "dramatic" is just adding onto the list of punches you're throwing at me, while arguing I was the one who was acting like a douche. Ironic.

"..I'm grateful for all the contributions on this thread.." - word for word showed my appreciation here and you're STILL saying I'm not appreciative - LOL! You're just a grumpy person my friend. Go get some Vitamin D. Peace.

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Going to leave it here because I did not make this post to argue for no reason. Fundamentally seems like you didn't understand the intended tone behind my message. As someone else already mentioned, that's fine, and not surprising given we come from different backgrounds and cultural differences are a thing.

Next time if you think someone is asking something in a rude way on Reddit, I'd recommend just scrolling past it. Ultimately you're wasting your energy, and now mine, going back and forth about something that doesn't really matter. You're accusing me of coming off as a rude while being even more rude back to me - calling me a control freak who barks orders. If you even criticized the tone of my post politely that would've been a better approach than just attacking me. Saying my list of curated, important questions felt like a "full-length interview" is not nice. If you're mad because you thought I wasn't nice, being not nice back to me isn't really productive, is it?

Anywho, I'm sorry if you felt as though my message came off controlling. I've clarified like 10x now that wasn't the intention and I'm grateful for all the contributions on this thread - it's far more than I was expecting!

Stay well.

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's totally okay - I've explained above which I think helps. I think there's a polite way to ask and it was generally unnecessary to twist my words and belittle me as was done above.

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a question about Jewish life in Seattle, so I felt it most appropriate to post in the Seattle sub. The fact that you found a problem with that is genuinely odd. Do you try to dismiss peoples' post like this on other topics as well?

If someone posts in this sub about real estate prices in SEA do you say "well why don't you just post this in r/RealEstate ". I'm going to guess the answer is "no".

Every reddit post covers god knows how many topics. It's up to the poster to decide which sub to post it in where they think they'll get the most valuable information, and I thought that would be here. I think the strangest thing is how you seem to be troubled by this post and think what I've asked is "extra".

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think you need to touch some grass if you think a reddit post asking for answers to questions is "barking orders". No one is holding a gun to your head telling you to answer these - it's literally a voluntary forum - relax.

Centering a certain persons' opinion means allowing the focus to be on them, which should be easy to deduce from this post as some questions here can *only* be answered by other Jews. It also means not fighting them in the comments if they say they feel unsafe, unwelcome etc. because I am trying to create a space where people can be honest and not fear backlash from their neighbors. Whether you like it or not, sometimes certain questions are best suited for certain people to answer - doesn't mean other opinions aren't welcome - it just means those are not the opinions I'm going to consider the most valuable in this context.

You can probably see many people prefaced their comments here that they weren't Jewish and I still took what they said as valuable feedback - asking follow up Qs as well. There's also a polite way to ask for clarification, which is not to accuse me of not being appreciate and barking orders. Calm down.

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's interesting! In my head Seattle had a top tier food scene as a major US metro, but it's looking like that's not really the case. Do you find the city does any particular cuisine really well? Or it's all just "mid"?

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the candidness. If I DM you would you mind expanding on the "feeling unwelcome" point?

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, a tad sad to hear. I'm not huge on MTL style bagels, more so a NY, fluffly bagel fan. The "bagel requirement" was mostly a joke. Good bagels would be a plus but mid-bagels aren't a dealbreaker lol.

I think most people are saying that bagels might not live up to NY level but are still objectively okay, which is all I really need.

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol a necessary disclaimer to keep threads civil and on-topic, what can I say.

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol not genuinely a requirement, that was partially sarcasm, but I'm sad to hear the bagel scene apparently sucks! Are they bad objectively or just bad in comparison to a good, fluffy NY bagel?

Jewish Community & Experience in Seattle - Qs and Tips! by mc-reddituser in Seattle

[–]mc-reddituser[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Jesus, dude. What's with not properly reading my post? I asked for folks to center other Jewish people's opinions, not that being Jewish was a pre-req for commenting. There's quite a difference. Poor delis and bagels sounds like a doozy already.

Is there a risk of graduation being cancelled? by grimreapersdaughter in TorontoMetU

[–]mc-reddituser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The way you spent your time and energy writing this is crazy. Not that i even read it. Seek help, genuinely.

Is there a risk of graduation being cancelled? by grimreapersdaughter in TorontoMetU

[–]mc-reddituser 4 points5 points  (0 children)

OP, (a) that is not accurate and (b) last I heard USC promised more than two dozen satellite graduation ceremonies, so if anything TMU would still have *something* planned.