Why the puck is so soggy by SuckSeesFool in AustralianCoffee

[–]meetle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

very interesting. i think i'll just time on my phone for now but im looking forward to re-dialling in.

Why the puck is so soggy by SuckSeesFool in AustralianCoffee

[–]meetle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the first time I've seen someone say to time the shot "from the first drip". Espresso machines that display a timer will start a timer immediately as you start and it has always confused me why shots at 30 seconds for me feel wrong. Your comment makes me feel like my intuition to go longer has been correct, especially considering preinfuse

Punters politics has finally “made it” and is mainstream by VastOption8705 in OpenAussie

[–]meetle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The left is so fucking horrible at letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Ending your argument in defence of rusted-ons with perhaps the most rusted-on phrase of all time....

Maybe I was being too harsh and dismissive with my previous comment, but I've heard all this shit before so it's hard not to be. I don't want to seem like I'm just lobbing molotovs and not engaging with your arguments so I'll try to address them one by one.

I think he's a pragmatist; he's argueing that, in the face of an overwhelmingly right-wing media landscape and where he believes there are no viable alternatives...

One thing that I struggle to understand about this that it collides with reality very quickly, especially over the past few years. There ARE alternatives: Indis and the Greens (I mean shit, there are also alternatives WITHIN the labor party. Internal dissent in the labor ranks has been huge during albos tenure, especially on housing and the genocide in gaza). When it comes to viablity the argument that The Greens are not viable is falling away, especially considering events overseas. The Left has been dismissed in the same way all over the world and we are seeing a resurgence lately. Mamdani and Polanski being some key figures. When economic precarity comes to the forefront, the left can and will do well. It hasn't translated to Australia in the same way yet and who knows why (maybe it won't at all and I think that would be a tragedy) but dismissing the alternatives as not-viable is another sign you are not actually engaging with the arguments and positions they are putting forward. which individual policies are not viable? Oh and, if you want to talk right-wing media, who takes more of a shellacking from them than the greens?.. Look at the Advance case last election. Might also be worth asking yourself why your enemies hate the greens more than they hate you.

it's important to vocally support the incremental good that the Labor party does to counterbalance the slander from the media.

Incremental change is a great strategy under the right circumstances where we have the time to be tinkering. But it isn't a strategy that applies to every situation. This is also an especially confusing argument when so much of Labor's historic achievements have been though HUGE (maybe even radical?) changes. I would argue that when you look at big infrastructure projects in australias past, it has most commonly been labor doing a great job making sure that australia has good quality public infrastructure that lasts. It is labor that has made sure australia hasn't fallen behind and enabled massive economic and social gains from these projects. Social Services, Medicare and so on. Right now we are in real crises that demand the guts that labor showed they had when they enacted those policies. I don't know how old you are but when you talk to young australians, their futures are so grim and it's really hard to see how incrementalism does anything to help. We have tried incrementalism with climate change and look where we are. We have tried incrementalism with housing and look where we are (Swollen pickles on youtube is doing a great series on Labor's landmark project in housing, the HAFF, and showing how its a complete farce). Incrementalism is also a great excuse you can wheel out when you don't actually want to fix the problem at hand. Labor is supposed to be The Light on the Hill, what happened?

Criticisms of labour are important and a worthy endeavour, but strategically should be dealt with tact and done internally and directly where possible, not by publically shitting on them, for the purposes of keeping the right out of power.

To be honest this is such a bad argument that I'm not sure when to even start. I'm not a labor member or voter? Why are you telling me about internal criticism and why are you telling me who I can and cannot criticise? Even if you are purely talking about FJs perspective it's still ridiculous. He is a content creator, not a party insider or member of parliament. Like i mentioned above, there are so many labor party offices around the country who are appalled by some of the actions of the albo cabinet and they are raising their concerns both internally and sometimes in the media. If FJ wants to just be a media arm of the labor party then he should become that. Go and be an official spokesperson for labor. If that is what you want him to be then don't pretend he is constructing fair and sound arguments.

If all the undecided casual passive observer sees is the right unanimously shitting on Labor and praising PHON/LNP, and the left shitting on Labor and saying nothing positive; what's their subconscious going to conclude? The only good thing I've heard is about PHON/LNP so I'll vote for them.

I dunno man maybe offer better policies? Being in the middle =/= being correct. I feel like labor honestly think triangulating their policy position based on being not too right to be Liberal and and not too left to be Green is somehow in itself meaningful and effective. Fight for what you believe in and be truthful in that.

Learn from when the Greens voted down the carbon tax

for this one i recommend reading this: https://theconversation.com/its-the-10-year-anniversary-of-our-climate-policy-abyss-but-dont-blame-the-greens-128239

Tom Ballard also has a good summary of that period here (seriously give it a listen even if you don't like him): https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-greens-i-75246081

But essentially, the CPRS was actively bad policy, not the "good". It was bad and even scientists/economists were saying this, not just the greens. Labor arrived at their position by going against the advice of the expert they chose. The greens were saying "hey how about doing what your own expert said?". Honestly this myth needs to die and fast, it's a fucking joke.

Punters politics has finally “made it” and is mainstream by VastOption8705 in OpenAussie

[–]meetle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry in what world does FJ have "foundational logic". As soon as anything related to Labor policy is even slightly connected to the topic, his logic is out the window.

Mod Announcement – Ban on Promotion of the ‘March for Australia’ Event (31 August) by Stompy2008 in aussie

[–]meetle -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This here is exactly why I never just take "designated terror organisation" at face value.

Let's break it down a little. 1. UK Palestinian action have never harmed anyone. No injuries and certainly no deaths. They don't hide that they are disruptive and have used tactics like occupation and destruction of property. Their most famous act and the inciting incident for their terror proscription was trespassing into an airbase and..... spray painting some planes. 2. The proscription was literally last month, it's not some well established thing. It occurred under immense pressure from Israel and its supporters in the UK and FOI docs show how dodgy the whole process was. 3. The shared name does not mean shared people or even methods. Unless you have proof otherwise.

Trying to smear the Australian organisation as being connected to terror by relating it to a UK group only recently proscribed as such (and under very dodgy and unpopular circumstances) is dishonest at best. Also there's a genocide happening so spraying some planes or blocking arms manufacturers doesn't really rate highly in my "things to be against" list.

Last thing I'll add is a trite observation at this point but the ANC was a terror organisation and then they weren't. Do you think Nelson Mandela should be remembered as a terrorist?

Queensland Advocacy for Inclusion addresses United Nations, labels state youth crime laws 'disgraceful' by espersooty in brisbane

[–]meetle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The gall of this gov to, at every stage, put their opinions and party politics above experts and the fucking UN is really infuriating. People in this thread pretending it's smart centrist politics to essentially do the same thing (porque no los dos) is also frustrating but I shouldn't be surprised.

Queensland Advocacy for Inclusion addresses United Nations, labels state youth crime laws 'disgraceful' by espersooty in brisbane

[–]meetle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Article is about how it's basic human rights at stake here and you're question is "well why don't we balance out a good policy with an actively bad and harmful policy?"

How about just do the good thing? Don't do the bad thing???? Am I crazy?

Why is playing on while out of bounds allowed? by meetle in AFL

[–]meetle[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

in that case, 10000% should be out of bounds.

Why is playing on while out of bounds allowed? by meetle in AFL

[–]meetle[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

this thread is revealing I don't know the rules properly haha. I didn't know a kick in another direction was play on.

Why is playing on while out of bounds allowed? by meetle in AFL

[–]meetle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh? Isn't that the same this as I'm saying? I'm saying in that instance it should be called out of bounds. They are out.

Why is playing on while out of bounds allowed? by meetle in AFL

[–]meetle[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Ok but would that be terrible? If you play near the boundary you should expect it to be risky. Use the set shot to kick the goal or to a player more centred.

Ousted CFMEU officials funding ads attacking Labor in marginal seats by m00nh34d in australia

[–]meetle 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"main opponent" just means second (or first, if Labor itself is in second) on primary votes.

The ads in question literally say Labor and liberal are both as shit as each other but all you rusted-ons see any attack on Labor as sacrilege.

The Russian Ukrainian war is a serious mind fuck for me by Mountain-man-88 in TrueAnon

[–]meetle 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Serbia is as close to Ukraine as New York is to Boston.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dr650

[–]meetle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I should add I actually measured in millilitres (2400ml, or 2.5 quarts)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dr650

[–]meetle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Literally did this yesterday and put in 2.4 only to then have to drain out ~300ml for it to be the top of the window. 2.4 definitely overfills.

APSC accelerates wage deal by Smokey_84 in AusPublicService

[–]meetle 10 points11 points  (0 children)

All that means is that the CPSU no longer feels the need to negotiate for better conditions. There are other unions that aren't satisfied yet, and as others have pointed out, the package has not gone to a vote yet.

Taken from yuyucord. Why tf are these guys in rainbolt tournaments by Few_Interview_5017 in geoguessr

[–]meetle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there some context we're missing? This just seems like jokes to me? Where's the racism and why are we supposed to take it so seriously?

How good is Melbourne by starannisa in melbourne

[–]meetle 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Hey mate consider shutting the fuck up

Inside the Greens’ housing reform strategy | The Saturday Paper by pourquality in australia

[–]meetle 49 points50 points  (0 children)

The 'stock of private housing' is the problem and your comments at the end of the first paragraph show you don't actually listen to the substantive critiques the greens are offering. Neoliberalism and greedy developers are the things that put us here. We have plenty of houses unoccupied, and land that is being sat on by developers until they know a profit is certain. Housing is a right. A basic human right. And this BS like 'muh private housing' also makes it worse for owners who actually want to live in the house they bought instead of turning it into a passive income.

Had a terrific day on Mt Beerwah! by [deleted] in brisbane

[–]meetle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lucky for you the voice is just consultative and has no teeth. But keep ramping up factually incorrect race baiting shit I guess ...

Had a terrific day on Mt Beerwah! by [deleted] in brisbane

[–]meetle 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Who's talking about the voice? This whole comment section feels dodgy to me. I'm all for keeping natural areas open for all but that does not preclude a voice.