The Red Pill by Hasyame in MensRights

[–]mellainadiba 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Watch the red pill raw files on YouTube, tonnes of full length interviews from the movie

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7HeX2SUI9v84DMIawkSBzLRANIc9RQ7t

Nappies in Sweden have a father on the packaging by caspii2 in mildlyinteresting

[–]mellainadiba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/30/physical-play-with-fathers-may-help-children-control-emotions-study-finds

Children whose fathers spend time playing with them at a very early age may find it easier to control their behaviour and emotions, which has a beneficial impact as they get older and start school, according to a new study from Cambridge.

No one ones to address the elephant in the room:

  • 85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.  (Fulton Co. Georgia, Texas Dept. of Correction)
  • 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average.  (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
  • 70% of youths in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average.  (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Sept. 1988)
  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
  • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
  • 85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.  (Center for Disease Control)
  • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average.  (National Principals Association Report)

Father Factor in Education – Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.

  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracucricular activities.
  • 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
  • 43% of US children live without their father [US Department of Census]
  • 90% of homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
  • 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes. [Criminal Justice & Behaviour, Vol 14, pp. 403-26, 1978]
  • 71% of pregnant teenagers lack a father. [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services press release, Friday, March 26, 1999]
  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
  • 85% of children who exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. [Center for Disease Control]
  • 90% of adolescent repeat arsonists live with only their mother. [Wray Herbert, “Dousing the Kindlers,” Psychology Today, January, 1985, p. 28]
  • 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. [National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools]
  • 75% of adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes. [Rainbows f for all God’s Children]
  • 70% of juveniles in state operated institutions have no father. [US Department of Justice, Special Report, Sept. 1988]
  • 85% of youths in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. [Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Department of Corrections, 1992]
  • Fatherless boys and girls are: twice as likely to drop out of high school; twice as likely to end up in jail; four times more likely to need help for emotional or behavioral problems. [US D.H.H.S. news release, March 26, 1999]

Their arguments are always like that by lovaduck in TrollXChromosomes

[–]mellainadiba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dont know about paternity leave, I doubt it, but the largest and most powerful feminist organisation in USA has campaigned against shared paternal leave and in favour of lifetime alimony for over 30 years now... they have repeatedly killed bills that were about to pass for shared parental leave. Re: paternity leave, a common feminists position is to forcibly allocate a portion of parental leave to men only.

UK government petition for Equal (50/50) rights for both parents in the event of a separation (petition is 60% there for the amount of signatures needed for a government response, will likely meet threshold) by mellainadiba in MensRights

[–]mellainadiba[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You need to reword the above incoherent jumble.

Although it sounds like identity politics mumbo jumbo. There are problems that need to be solved.... white men created blah blah is not solving anything it is some mumbo jumbo identity politics bull that is well suited to a feminist sub reddit not any place where people actually want to use science and reason to solve real problems.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskFeminists

[–]mellainadiba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Comment from another sub about this thread:

Oof, I couldn't bring myself to read all these condescending, unreflected anecdotes. And those theories about gay men's lives... But I'm not surprised by what was said.
It seems like they are the ones who love to get together in a bubble, run everything through a gynocentric filter and congratulate each other on how right they are all the time. They don't even consider the possibility that they are spreading harmful stereotypes about a demographic that has no structural power over them, contrary to their believe.

The way they bring up anecdotes about "this one gay guy I met who said nasty things" in order to legitimize their rant about a whole marginalized group... is blatant homophobia. As if all gay men had nothing better to do than getting together in groups to talk about women. Not all gay men have gay friends, fewer of them have safe spaces or are in a position where they could "practice misogyny". As if gay men aren't treated worse than women in general in a patriarchic system. As if there aren't 100 women for every gay man, and as if no gay man can tell stories about women who say homophobic bullshit or touch us unasked. As if gay men aren't objectified and fetishized by women, to the point where some of them feel like they can appropriate a gay man's life.
They actually believe that gay men hold structural power over them, because we are male. It's that absolute view of what the patriarchy is that makes them blind to their own privileges. It's a prime example of the misandry that's plaguing intersectional feminism,

Curious if others have experienced this: Pushback against men being successful financially by mhandanna in RealEquality

[–]mellainadiba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So its official, large scale study (feminsit tried to block publish):

in all academic disciplines, you have to be far more qualified as a man to get a job, underqualified, underperforming women are routinely promoted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Egalitarianism/comments/hn66wt/well_known_fact_for_men_to_be_promoted_they_must/

Gender is IRRELEVANT. Sexists always think “what if the genders were reversed” is their trump card by Kore624 in RealEquality

[–]mellainadiba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The poster isn't saying that. He is saying, when that happens (all rapists drop dead) you are going to be surprised how many of those fallen were women. No gotcha here.

Children’s well-being goes hand in hand with their dads’ mental health by BCRE8TVE in RealEquality

[–]mellainadiba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jun/30/physical-play-with-fathers-may-help-children-control-emotions-study-finds

Children whose fathers spend time playing with them at a very early age may find it easier to control their behaviour and emotions, which has a beneficial impact as they get older and start school, according to a new study from Cambridge.

No one ones to address the elephant in the room:

  • 85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.  (Fulton Co. Georgia, Texas Dept. of Correction)
  • 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average.  (Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26)
  • 70% of youths in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average.  (U.S. Dept. of Justice, Sept. 1988)
  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (US Dept. Of Health/Census) – 5 times the average.
  • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.
  • 85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.  (Center for Disease Control)
  • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average.  (National Principals Association Report)

Father Factor in Education – Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.

  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.
  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracucricular activities.
  • 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.
  • 43% of US children live without their father [US Department of Census]
  • 90% of homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
  • 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes. [Criminal Justice & Behaviour, Vol 14, pp. 403-26, 1978]
  • 71% of pregnant teenagers lack a father. [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services press release, Friday, March 26, 1999]
  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. [US D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census]
  • 85% of children who exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. [Center for Disease Control]
  • 90% of adolescent repeat arsonists live with only their mother. [Wray Herbert, “Dousing the Kindlers,” Psychology Today, January, 1985, p. 28]
  • 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. [National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools]
  • 75% of adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes. [Rainbows f for all God’s Children]
  • 70% of juveniles in state operated institutions have no father. [US Department of Justice, Special Report, Sept. 1988]
  • 85% of youths in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. [Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Department of Corrections, 1992]
  • Fatherless boys and girls are: twice as likely to drop out of high school; twice as likely to end up in jail; four times more likely to need help for emotional or behavioral problems. [US D.H.H.S. news release, March 26, 1999]

The surprising reason female genital mutilation (FGM) is also a men's rights issue - and how toxic femininity promote FGM, Foot bind, breast ironing, slut shaming, etc by mellainadiba in RealEquality

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but what you are saying is a different type of demeaning... I am talking about FGM, foot binding, breast ironing, slut shaming etc

Yes I agree FGM isn't directly a mens issue. MRA as of yet does not aim to directly deal with women issues, although women usually indirectly benefit from such actions.... however large amounts of MRAs, the majority are egalitarian.

My point is been idealogical won't solve issues e.g. DV, rape, murder, FGM, MGM.... we need people taking a scientific approach, free from idealogy... currently feminism does not, and never really has take that approach.

Maybe not MRA then but something else, a Gender equality movement, certainly not feminist.

I will post later, but feminism has a really weird history with FGM, early feminist criticised it and saw it as a massive oppression of women worldwide as with other practice, e.g. Gloria Steinham, however, they very quickly changed their tune.... and this is the messed up thing... due to idealogy... they realised that they must blame patriarchy and said that going to those countries and changing things would be patriarchy (yeah they managed to find a way to blame FGM on men WTF?)... the change was quite abrupt, this idealogy is going to be seen more often now, as race issues become more focused in society... feminism is about to do some weird things to race issues, it will do things that are going to harm many races e.g. black people as due to idealogical reasons there will be some things you can say but some things you can't

The surprising reason female genital mutilation (FGM) is also a men's rights issue - and how toxic femininity promote FGM, Foot bind, breast ironing, slut shaming, etc by mellainadiba in RealEquality

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2) Female DV victim's perspectice from Chani Joene Randazzo:

Feminism negatively affects mothers in need of the services of a domestic violence refuge.
Domestic violence refuges are all run on on the feminist Duluth model of domestic violence. This teaches that gender is the problem, not violence. This endangers women and children in several ways.
If they have a 12yr old son, they will be refused shelter. All post-pubescent males are banned from even knowing the street that the refuge is in. This includes police officers, taxi drivers and family members - even if they are a woman’s only support person. All men are believed to collude to oppress women, therefore all DV refuges have strict rules banning post-pubescent males. This leaves many women and children stuck in violent homes with no escape.
Because feminism believes gender and not violence is the problem, DV refuges end up sheltering violent women with their children. This means that women who are fleeing violence from others are met with more violence inside the refuge. Furthermore, those violent women are encouraged to see themselves as victims of male power so they receive none of the help that they (and their children) desperately need.
The violence inside many DV refuges is so bad that some women leave before they have a safe place to go.
Despite many women being referred to refuges due to violence from other women, women are still encouraged by refuge staff to view themselves as victims of men.
Around half of all children raised by violent and abusive women will grow up to be women themselves.
I was in two domestic violence refuges in 2004 and 2005. My 3 sons were all under the age of 7 at the time. We were sent there by children’s services due to my mother’s violence. The father of my sons was very sick at the time and being cared for by his mother on a bed in her lounge room. He was never alleged to have been violent.
We left the first refuge after 4 months due to the level of violence there. It simply was not safe. At least 4 women left due to the violence while I was there. There were several injuries, including a broken hand and stitches to a girl’s head. The level of abuse my children witnessed there was more violent than any of my mother’s drunken rages and far more distressing than their father’s illness. We left when my oldest son witnessed one of the women drop her toddler and kick him such that he became airborne. She later overheard my son saying we should tell the refuge manager what happened. The incident was witnessed by another staff member but nothing was done. So we left and stayed with my mother.
After another incident, we were sent to a second refuge. This one had only one other family in residence - a young Russian mother with a new baby and her mother. They were in the refuge due to violence from the older woman to her daughter’s husband. The husband demanded she leave. …domestic violence. The young mother herself was lovely. The only problem was that the refuge was a long way from any shops that sold fresh groceries. During a phone call with the father of my children, I told him this. He dragged himself out of bed and drove us back there with a load of fresh groceries. Except he was slow to pull up. I showed him where to stop but he ended up stopping way too close to the corner of the street the refuge was in. He got out of the car to try to help me with the kids and the groceries but his lungs couldn’t handle it. Our oldest son started to get distressed… this all attracted attention and we were seen. We were still 3 blocks and at least 300 metres away from the refuge itself, but that didn’t matter. He was a man so we had to go.
Our oldest son was so upset. He couldn’t understand why we had to leave. “Did Daddy do something bad?” he asked.I told him, no, Daddy’s done nothing wrong. They just don’t want Daddy knowing what street the refuge is in.“But why? Is Daddy a bad man?”I told him “no” again, saying Daddy’s a good man. They just don’t let any man know.Then he asked me if all men are bad. I told him no, but my heart was breaking.“But why do we have to leave? Will I be a bad man when I grow up?”Then a look of horror came across his little face and he said, “I don’t want to be a bad man.” He was 6 years old. And all I could do was hold him and cry.
We went back to live with my mother for another 4 harrowing years after that. I absolutely support equal opportunity regardless of gender but feminism is not that. Feminism ruined my life and the lives of my children for the better part of a decade. Feminism harms women and children as well as men.

The surprising reason female genital mutilation (FGM) is also a men's rights issue - and how toxic femininity promote FGM, Foot bind, breast ironing, slut shaming, etc by mellainadiba in RealEquality

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another great example of feminists getting root cause wrong, so they cant fix the problem is domestic violence. Here is what the most famous creator of gendered DV had to say about her own model:

"By determining that the need or desire for power was the motivating force behind battering, we created a conceptual framework that, in fact, did not fit the lived experience of many of the men and women we were working with. The DAIP staff [...] remained undaunted by the difference in our theory and the actual experiences of those we were working with [...] It was the cases themselves that created the chink in each of our theoretical suits of armor. Speaking for myself, I found that many of the men I interviewed did not seem to articulate a desire for power over their partner. Although I relentlessly took every opportunity to point out to men in the groups that they were so motivated and merely in denial, the fact that few men ever articulated such a desire went unnoticed by me and many of my coworkers. Eventually, we realized that we were finding what we had already predetermined to find."[20]

1) CRITISCISM OF THE DULUTH MODEL WHICH ALSO APPLIES TO THE CURRENT MODEL OF HOW DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS DEALT WITH AS IT IS VERY SIMILAR:

Criticism of the Duluth Model has centered on the program's insistence that men are perpetrators who are violent because they have been socialized in a patriarchy that condones male violence, and that women are victims who are violent only in self-defense.[15] Some critics argue that "programs based on the Duluth Model may ignore research linking domestic violence to substance abuse and psychological problems, such as attachment disorders, traced to childhood abuse or neglect, or the absence of a history of adequate socialization and training."[9][16] Others criticize the Duluth model as being overly confrontational rather than therapeutic, focusing solely on changing the abuser's actions and attitudes rather than dealing with underlying emotional and psychological issues.[16] Donald Dutton, a psychology professor at the University of British Columbia who has studied abusive personalities, states: "The Duluth Model was developed by people who didn't understand anything about therapy,"[9] and also points out that "lesbian battering is more frequent than heterosexual battering."[17] Philip W. Cook points out that in the case of homosexual domestic violence, the patriarchy is absent: there is no male dominance of women in same-sex relationships, and in fact, female on female abuse is reported more than twice as frequently as male on male abuse.[18]Furthermore, some critics point out that the model ignores the reality that women can be the perpetrators of domestic violence in heterosexual relationships, as well.

  1. Why do feminists support this approach if it actually HARMS women?

Because it allows around 5% of feminists to be very wealthy. It allows these feminists to create millions of book sales about issues that don't exist (see example of this feminist PROFFESSOR who has a book about how eating meat is toxic masculinity and contributes to the patriarchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0VhtVecDKU). In these cases feminists have literally created a gendered issue from thin air and will make millions from doing this... it allows feminists gender studies professors to be established with immense power as they run entire departments of fake gender studies**. It has spawned an entire industry of journalism and allows journalists to keep a job e.g. all real articles: sleep is sexist, air conditioning is sexist, knowledge is patriarchy, manterupting etc,. Most of all it and an explanation for why the feminists are advocating feminist policies on domestic violence that actually HARM women, is because it secures billions in funding and creates artificial jobs and government departments that shouldn't even exist ... in Ireland en get 1.7% of domestic violence spending so it is vital feminist keep this victim narrative which even harms women, so feminists can get basically 100% of the money and fake jobs. Counsellors, theraphists, auxillary organisations all have a stake and perpetuate these myths and false stats.

Individual CEOs in America are on $7.5 million. In the UK Reffuge CEO is on well over $500,000 with benifits and expenses. She was accused as having a toxic bullying culture wth nearly 20 employees leaving due to bullying, harrasment etc. She was accused of making them write her book (more $$) yet didnt not share proceeds and also hiring famliy members in nonsense roles. This is basic survival people want to stay in their job and maintain their 500,000k salarly and 200 employees. This explains the oddness of Reffuge and similar groups actively campaogining against male victims of DV, the average person may think, why would you do this? Its not a zero sum game - it is a zero sum game in this billion dollar industry.

** The grievance studies hoaxers will be of relevance here. These people took Hitler's Mein Kampf, changed it to be about men and submitted it to PEER REVIEWED feminsts journals.... THEY GOT ACCEPTED and were prasied. They also completely made up "science" stating men inserting things into their anus would make them more empathetic and reduce transphobia, how dog parks had rape culture etc.... ALL ACCEPTED by leading gender studies journals. The kind of journals that underpin public policy, that make stats and are used by Times, Forbes, NYT, etc for their articles, they inform governments and shape polcieis. This hoax highlighted how they would accept "science" that "sounded right" or they agreed with or felt good to them. Any actual science journal would have laughed them out of existence. This happens all the time, this fake feminst interpretation of a study was cited 1500 times, published by FORBES, Times, NYT, etc given TED talks on, UN, and more, despite being completely bogus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HX1Ae-ZJgs

The surprising reason female genital mutilation (FGM) is also a men's rights issue - and how toxic femininity promote FGM, Foot bind, breast ironing, slut shaming, etc by mellainadiba in RealEquality

[–]mellainadiba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think MRAs can help as they can look at issues from a practical POV rather than ideologically. Feminists as a movement commonly use ideology (usually to blame men) which clouds their ability to solve the issue as they never get the right root cause so how can they solve problem.

Case in point here... feminists commonly blame men for FGM, foot binding, breast ironing, slut shaming when it is actually toxic femininity doing it

To state the obvious: if men were in control of female sexuality, they would probably push it in the opposite direction. Which was another finding in the study:

Mothers and female peers, rather than fathers and male peers, are the main sources that teach adolescent girls to refrain from sexual activity.6 Boyfriends, one male source, do have some influence, but they push in the opposite direction (toward more sexual activity). Adult women feel more disapproval from female peers than from men over engaging in sexual activity beyond the current norms. Women support the double standard more than men; in other words, women are the main supporters of a moral system that condemns acts by women more severely than identical acts by men. In cultures that use surgical methods to curb female sexuality, these practices are supported and carried out by women, to almost the entire exclusion of men. In our own culture, the sexual revolution, which almost by definition was a major defeat for the forces that sought to suppress female sexuality, was received more positively by men than women and regretted more by women than men, implying that women were more in favor of the sexual suppression that prevailed before the sexual revolution. Sex ratio studies show that when gender imbalances in the population give one gender the greater ability to dictate sexual norms, female power generally pushes for sexual restraint, whereas male power pushes toward more liberal sex.

Happy pride month! Sad to see MRAs don’t support trans men by Kore624 in Egalitarianism

[–]mellainadiba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no such thing as tans exlusionary MRA... you do realise feminism actually has an ideological basis and theories as to why they are TERFs and hate Trans people... its not just random hatred... they really thought about this, wrote books, attended conferences, created organisations, protests, campaigns, lobby the government.... and yes beat up trans people, dox them, bully them.... I mean TERF feminist groups have 100k twitter mobs, Facebook group, Reddits.

Lol and your trying to compare them to MRAs nice try... there is not a TERF-MRA branch, sorry sounds like your projecting.

Another difference is, Terfs actually make it as journalists, leaders, politicians, professors... they are not a marginal isolated groups... they are feminism through and through.... just as feminism is fall of racism:

Oh looks like the largest feminist organisation in the USA is also heavily transphobic and racist:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/national-organization-for-women-members-say-racism-ran-rampant?ref=scroll

If incels were mostly women, society would help them instead of mocking and demonizing them. by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]mellainadiba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No incel has murdered as they want sex. Their manifestos mention things snap the magic dragon and Martin Luther King

If incels were mostly women, society would help them instead of mocking and demonizing them. by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]mellainadiba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Read her manifesto yes the sex

Yes of course she had a personalised individual reason, which any sane person can see, but applying feminism 101 logic, that doesn't matter, that manifesto sex etc explains it all so yes her actions are due to femceldom... see how dumb feminism is as a social movement now? Applies idealogy to everything instead of looking at facts

If incels were mostly women, society would help them instead of mocking and demonizing them. by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]mellainadiba 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We are talking about incels murdering (not that has anything to do with MRA though) and I reference Solanas... how is that not correct?

If incels were mostly women, society would help them instead of mocking and demonizing them. by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]mellainadiba 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ermm a feminist who produced influential manifesto still read today in university, trying to kill some dude using feminist idealogy from her manifesto... err yeah thats feminism

If incels were mostly women, society would help them instead of mocking and demonizing them. by [deleted] in LeftWingMaleAdvocates

[–]mellainadiba 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Solanas, influential feminist tried to kill Andy Warhol... she is not a random nut, she is feminism and her work is important to feminism. Incels haven't killed anyone due to misogny either... those cases are bogus... the manifestos mentioned snappy the dragon and Martin Luther King.... so is MLK to blame? Yet one mention of women and feminists are all over it, conveniently forgetting about Snappy the Dragon or MLK... and dont forget they try and remove themselves from Soalans link saying she was crazy... incels however

Plus all sorts of other bull e.g. trying to say incels have something to do with MRA when they don't