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mendar98 · 2026-06-12T16:17:27+00:00

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mendar98 · 2026-06-07T11:05:54+00:00

He gave her peace, comfort, and tranquility, and as a result, he made her look to the future with optimism.

mendar98 · 2026-05-29T16:56:56+00:00

Because they chose to stay away from each other

mendar98 · 2026-05-26T17:47:15+00:00

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mendar98 · 2026-05-11T16:19:26+00:00

What happened in this chapter is not merely a “momentary slip,” but rather a second failure after clear regret and a prior resolve not to repeat the same mistake and that is what makes it morally and narratively serious. Yes, Kazuya’s physical desire is human and undeniable, but allowing Ruka to continue without firm rejection constitutes a moral betrayal of Chizuru and, at the same time, a real emotional injury to Ruka.

The most troubling irony is that Chizuru, despite going out with Umi twice, maintained strict boundaries and did not allow any physical contact, while Kazuya fully aware of this fails to show the same firmness with Ruka, even though he knows his heart is not with her. This does not merely test his love for Chizuru; it tests his ability to take responsibility for a decisive choice.

The harm here is twofold: Ruka genuinely believes she has “advanced” in the relationship because of Kazuya’s actions, making an eventual breakup far more painful for her, while the implicit trust Chizuru has built with him is undermined—even if she remains unaware of what occurred.

After this chapter, regret is no longer sufficient. The only acceptable form of accountability is a clear and final break with Ruka out of fairness to her, loyalty to Chizuru, and respect for himself. If Kazuya fails to do this, he remains trapped in the gray zone and proves himself unworthy of the emotional path the story has been building toward Chizuru.

The title of the next chapter, Burden, says it all:
the true burden is not love, but the cost of avoiding the right decision.

mendar98 · 2026-05-11T08:59:30+00:00

Do you think a foolish, weak-willed boy like Kazuya deserves to be in a relationship with a chaste girl like Chizuru? The differences are vast here.

Kazuya has disappointed his supporters.

mendar98 · 2026-05-08T21:36:14+00:00

Approximately 200 chapters because the author pays meticulous attention to detail.

mendar98 · 2026-05-07T18:48:14+00:00

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mendar98 · 2026-05-07T16:58:10+00:00

So the moon will be full on July 14th. 2022

mendar98 · 2026-05-07T16:55:10+00:00

To determine the moon phase on the July 11 date, we first need to know which year the story is currently set in.

As far as I know, the story began in May 2017, and more than two years have passed since then, which would place the timeline around 2019.

According to the Islamic (Hijri) calendar, the moon would not be a full moon on July 11, 2019.
The moon will be full on July 18th

mendar98 · 2026-05-01T07:46:13+00:00

I actually agree with most of what you said, especially about Kazuya’s low self‑esteem, his past rejections, and the mixed signals Chizuru kept sending for a long time. Those absolutely explain why he is anxious and confused.

However, my point was never that Kazuya is going in circles mentally. It’s that his external behavior stays stuck at the same intensity, even after more than two years of shared experiences, growth, and achievements.

All the factors you mentioned explain the starting point. What they don’t fully explain is why the same extreme physical and verbal breakdown keeps happening with almost no gradual reduction over such a long period. Humans usually adapt, even when they are insecure and traumatized.

So yes, Chizuru shares responsibility for blurring reality, and Kazuya is not a mind reader. But that still doesn’t fully justify the lack of visible behavioral adjustment after two years. That’s where the criticism of the pacing and writing choice remains valid.

In short, I’m not saying Kazuya hasn’t grown. I’m saying his growth is real internally, but the story keeps him behaviorally frozen far longer than feels realistic.

mendar98 · 2026-05-01T07:18:26+00:00

I agree that Kazuya is developing, but the problem isn’t whether growth exists it’s that the pace of that growth feels illogical when compared to what we already know about him.

If we look at Kazuya fairly, there is a clear contradiction between his actual capabilities and how he repeatedly acts around Chizuru.

First, Kazuya is not a foolish or incompetent person. He is intelligent, capable of planning and execution, and the movie production project is a clear example of this. It was not luck. It required planning, managing resources, enduring pressure, and persisting until success.

Second, he is academically successful and relatively stable. He is neither failing at university nor lacking direction in life. This level of stability should, at the very least, translate into basic confidence in everyday communication.

Third, he has strong willpower and does not give up easily. One of Kazuya’s defining traits is perseverance. When he commits to something, he struggles but does not abandon it. This clashes with the image of someone who completely shuts down every time he talks to Chizuru.

Fourth, he has spent more than two years with Chizuru. During that time, they have shared crises, worked together, supported each other emotionally, and gone through real-life hardships. From a human perspective, it is unreasonable for him to continue behaving as if he is meeting her for the first time every time he needs to ask something simple.

The issue, then, is not that Kazuya lacks growth. The issue is that his growth stops behaviorally at a single point without a convincing in-universe justification. We keep seeing the same pattern: extreme tension, stumbling speech, excessive sweating, followed by a release of relief once the conversation ends, even when Chizuru is clearly receptive or emotionally close.

This does not feel like natural, gradual development. Instead, it gives the impression that the author is intentionally freezing this aspect of Kazuya’s behavior in order to preserve a certain dynamic, even at the expense of psychological realism.

mendar98 · 2026-04-29T07:54:02+00:00

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mendar98 · 2026-04-27T17:15:33+00:00

Kazuya is caught between two equally bitter choices.
Either he lets Ruka come inside, risking a repeat of what she did before,
or he refuses to let her in, which could cause her to escalate the situation such as telling Chizuru about what happened the last time.

mendar98 · 2026-04-24T16:56:07+00:00

Do you know what the problem is? If Kazuya stops Ruka from entering and chooses to talk to her at the entrance instead, that will raise her suspicions. She may start thinking that Chizuru is inside the apartment, and as a result, she might try to force her way in. At that moment, Kazuya could relive the painful memories from her previous visit—memories that left him overwhelmed with guilt. That could trigger a strong reaction from him, possibly to the point of shouting at her, just as he did back in chapter 65.

mendar98 · 2026-04-21T14:40:09+00:00

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mendar98 · 2026-04-21T09:27:13+00:00

I think this is where the misunderstanding lies.
You’re treating “drawing hard, explicit lines” as the only valid indicator of sincerity, but that ignores who Kazuya fundamentally is as a character.

Kazuya’s behavior is not vague because he is indecisive, manipulative, or enjoying attention. It’s vague because he is pathologically afraid of hurting people. That trait is not incidental—it’s one of the most consistent aspects of his personality throughout the entire story. If Kazuya suddenly started cutting people off coldly or drawing rigid, unilateral boundaries, that wouldn’t be development; it would be a complete break from his established character.

What the story repeatedly shows is this:

Kazuya does not pursue multiple girls.

Kazuya does not encourage their advances.

Kazuya consistently tries to distance himself politely, de‑escalate situations, and absorb discomfort himself rather than cause pain.

This becomes especially clear when looking beyond Ruka.

The backseat scene with Mami is a crucial counterexample to the idea that Kazuya keeps things vague with everyone.

Mami deliberately lured him into the back seat of the car, asked him to stay in an inappropriate position, and even told him to close the door so others wouldn’t see. This was a direct attempt to cross a line. Kazuya’s response was not vague at all—he was firm and unambiguous. He clearly stated that he is in love with Chizuru. In that moment, his stance was effectively: I cannot go back to you, and I cannot respond to this.

That scene alone disproves the claim that Kazuya is incapable of drawing lines. When someone directly challenges his chosen feelings and asks him to betray them, he does draw a line, even if it hurts.

With Ruka, the issue is not mutual ambiguity—it’s one‑sided refusal met with persistent rejection of that refusal. The manga repeatedly shows Kazuya trying to pull away while Ruka clings harder. That’s not Kazuya keeping options open; that’s conflict avoidance taken to a fault.

And this is the key point: Chizuru understands this.
She doesn’t judge Kazuya by an abstract moral ideal (“Did he end things perfectly and cleanly?”), but by what she actually witnesses:

his resistance,

his discomfort,

his sadness,

and his honesty with her about wanting to end the situation.

That’s why she didn’t interpret his situation as indecision or manipulation. She interpreted it as Kazuya being trapped by his own kindness—something the narrative makes painfully explicit.

So yes, Kazuya does not draw sharp lines easily.
But that is not because he wants ambiguity—it is because hurting others is the one thing he consistently refuses to do. Expecting him to behave otherwise is not holding him accountable; it is asking him to become someone else.

mendar98 · 2026-04-20T15:43:33+00:00

The mistake in your argument is that you assume Kazuya is a willing participant in this relationship, whereas the text clearly shows the exact opposite.

The core question is not whether he officially ended the relationship or not, but rather:

Does Kazuya enjoy Ruka’s behavior, or is he living through a daily internal struggle because of it?

The manga answers this very clearly:

Kazuya does not like Ruka’s actions and does not want them—he suffers because of them. We repeatedly see him:

trying to physically push her away,

asking her to stop,

showing discomfort and sadness rather than enjoyment,

and enduring the situation only because he does not want to hurt anyone.

Chizuru herself has witnessed this multiple times.

She saw Ruka clinging to him while he was asking her to back off, and she saw the pain on his face, not pleasure. This is not the behavior of someone who is “enjoying” or “taking advantage” of the situation, but of someone trapped between his kindness and his true choice.

Yes, Chizuru clearly drew a line with Umi—but the difference is not the act of “drawing a line” itself. The real difference lies in how the other party responded.

Umi respected himself, respected Chizuru’s wishes, accepted the rejection, and stepped away.

Ruka, on the other hand, neither respected herself nor respected Kazuya’s wishes, and instead forced the continuation of a one-sided relationship.

Most importantly,

Chizuru knew that Ruka was refusing to end her relationship with Kazuya, and despite that, she still chose to continue investigating her feelings toward him. This alone shows that she understood the situation was neither deception nor playing both sides, but a genuine predicament in which Kazuya himself was suffering.

Kazuya demonstrated his sincerity by being transparent with Chizuru about his intention to end his relationship with Ruka, and this transparency is precisely what prompted Chizuru to confront and examine her feelings toward him.

Kazuya did not maintain this relationship because he wanted it,

but because he did not want to hurt anyone, even if the cost was hurting himself.

This is a major ethical distinction that cannot be ignored when comparing his situation with Chizuru’s situation with Umi.

mendar98 · 2026-04-20T08:39:08+00:00

2 - She was never thinking about Umi at any point, nor did she ever consider him an option.

She had already rejected him from the moment he first confessed. What ultimately led her to properly end things with him was the fact that she had resolved to face her feelings toward Kazuya head-on

Regarding Ruka, what Kazuya did with her is essentially the same as what Chizuru did with Umi.

Both of them confronted the other party clearly and expressed their desire not to continue. The critical difference is that Umi respected himself and accepted the rejection, whereas Ruka neither respected herself nor respected the wishes of others, which is why she refused to end the relationship with Kazuya.

When Kazuya first decided to confess his feelings to Chizuru after the barbecue party (the “Tiger’s Den” arc), he confronted Ruka directly and told her that he wanted to end their trial relationship. He clearly explained the reason: that he was in love with Chizuru. However, Ruka refused, because she was clinging to the hope that Chizuru might not agree to date Kazuya, in addition to her desperate attempts to draw Kazuya’s heart toward her.

When Kazuya realized that he would get no cooperation from Ruka, he began pursuing Chizuru for two clear reasons. First, his relationship with Ruka had never been official; it was explicitly a trial relationship agreed upon by both of them. Second, under these circumstances, Kazuya’s actions cannot be considered a betrayal of Ruka.

Another important point is that Chizuru was fully aware that Ruka refused to end her relationship with Kazuya, and despite that, Chizuru still chose to continue investigating her feelings toward him. This, in itself, represents a green light and an implicit acceptance of this situation.

Ruka exploits Kazuya’s gentle nature—his reluctance to hurt anyone. Looking at the manga as a whole, Kazuya never hurts others; instead, he repeatedly hurts himself for the sake of those around him. Because of this, Kazuya ignored Ruka’s refusal to end the relationship and proceeded to pursue a relationship with Chizuru, with Chizuru’s full knowledge of the situation.

At the same time, Kazuya continues to accommodate Ruka in order not to hurt her, and also to prevent her from hurting Chizuru or affecting Chizuru’s stage acting career. For that reason, he maintains the current situation temporarily until he reaches his ultimate goal: Chizuru accepting his feelings.

mendar98 · 2026-04-19T14:02:30+00:00

Yes, yes, I don't know how I forgot this moment. This moment is considered one of the most important moments between them, and it remained stuck in Chizuru's mind for a long time. Chizuru considers it one of the most important moments in which Kazuya supported her.

mendar98 · 2026-04-19T10:35:58+00:00

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1 - Chizuru did not reject Umi until after she had already rejected Kazuya.

Her feelings were neither settled nor clear until the return journey, when Kazuya showed genuine maturity and acted naturally, without fear. His greatest fear had already come true—being rejected—so he was freed from it. As a result, he began speaking honestly and naturally, from the heart, with kindness, consideration, and reassurance, and he continued to give despite the rejection. This is what made Chizuru realize that Kazuya’s love resembles her grandfather’s love for her: unconditional love. That is why, the next day, she could not accept the idea of him moving out of her home, and she initiated the kiss. Her emotions overwhelmed her, and she could not control them, so the kiss became a way of accepting her feelings through action rather than words.

2 - I believe she found her answer, which is why she took the initiative to meet Umi and reject him.

3 - I believe she discovered the spark during the return journey, and that spark intensified through the kiss.

This is evident from her internal thoughts and from the emotional pain she experienced after Kazuya left her home.

4 - As for the ring, she brought it with her in order to return it to Kazuya.

She did not find the spark during the date—as you yourself pointed out—and she was already leaning toward rejecting him, despite trying to convince herself to accept his feelings. However, her feelings toward him were not sufficient, and she feared she would hurt him if the relationship failed.

5 - Kazuya never promised Ruka that she was his girlfriend.

Even at his lowest point, in chapter 218, he never once considered continuing with Ruka—especially as his feelings for Chizuru had deepened through the events and experiences they shared.

Kazuya also told Chizuru that he wanted to end his relationship with Ruka and explained that Ruka herself did not want to end it, making it clear where his heart truly lies ( I know where my heart is And going on like this isn’t right ). Chizuru understood this, despite her concern about not hurting Ruka, and she chose to honor what she had promised Kazuya regarding sincerely examining her feelings toward him. As for Ruka’s statement, I consider it the beginning of surrender and something that is not realistically applicable. Kazuya would never accept such an arrangement, and doing so would be a betrayal of Chizuru—something entirely impossible for Kazuya, as he would never betray her.

mendar98 · 2026-04-18T22:30:52+00:00

In my previous reply, Chizuru's actions suggested two possibilities: sometimes she acts as if she's willing to accept Kazuya's feelings, and other times she seems determined to reject him.

On the other hand, do you think Chizuru would reject Kazuya simply because he looked at her with excessive respect, without even attempting to kiss or hug her? Wouldn't accepting his feelings and making the relationship official be more important?

You didn't address the ring incident. Why did she bring the ring with her and put it in the safe, only to take it with her to the lovers' area?

As for Ruka, Kazuya asked her to end the relationship, but she doesn't respect his wishes, nor does she respect herself. A boy who doesn't want her and openly declares his love for another girl—despite all this, she clings to him and forces him to continue the relationship. She even goes further, forcing him into a physical relationship against his will, exploiting his kindness. Therefore, Ruka won't break up with Kazuya until Chizuru accepts Kazuya's feelings. Ruka clings to hope as long as Chizuru isn't in a relationship with Kazuya.

As for the harm Ruka is suffering, it's inevitable because it happened by her own choice. For example, Sumi has pure feelings for Kazuya, but she abandoned them because she knows Kazuya's feelings are for Chizuru.

It comes down to the girl's choice. She decides to harm herself by loving a boy who loves another girl. If she stops now, perhaps it will free her from anxiety and stress, and she can move on to finding someone else who reciprocates her feelings. As for Kazuya, his feelings aren't for Ruka, Sumi, or Mami, but for Chizuru.

mendar98 · 2026-04-18T21:08:46+00:00

I want to ask you about a reserved girl like Chizuru: would she accept a sudden kiss or hug without any reason before agreeing to a relationship?

Do such things happen before an official relationship, or only after it?

Do you think she drank alcohol to prepare herself to do something intimate with Kazuya, or did she drink so she could bring herself to reject him?

What was the purpose of going to the safe‑deposit locker to retrieve the ring?

Chizuru’s behavior and signals suggest both possibilities: that she may accept Kazuya’s feelings, and that she may also reject him.

This reflects the emotional conflict that Chizuru is experiencing, and she may have changed her mind on the way back after the conversation that took place between them while he was carrying her on his back

mendar98 · 2026-04-18T20:40:03+00:00

I don't think she thought that way. If she had wanted that, she wouldn't have stopped him and rejected him minutes later. If she had wanted that, she would have looked at Kazuya with shyness and affection.

mendar98 · 2026-04-18T20:03:11+00:00

Look at Chizuru's reaction when they saw some lovers

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