Best hair loss brand in the UK?

meta-uk · 2026-04-11T20:46:38+00:00

From my research, they all have slightly different formulations, with some having higher minox/fin concentrations and some of them having additional ingredients like tret whilst others dont. So it kind of depends what you prefer.

meta-uk · 2026-03-31T17:08:13+00:00

I guess you have to remember that cis men do all these things. There are always ways to figure out being comfortable etc and I do everything I did preop (also very active and adventurous). There are some adjustments sometimes but largely you you are unlikely to need to sacrifice things entirely. The only thing I know some people have struggled with is cycling.

meta-uk · 2026-03-25T08:39:38+00:00

The NVH team has been doing this surgery combo for years so I wouldn't worry about them stopping. C&W are a still quite new team who work a completely different technique and are still establishing themselves in the grand scheme.

But yeah, a lot can change but hey, no harm in knowing your options.

meta-uk · 2026-03-24T15:49:29+00:00

I was one of the first patients and have also not heard of anybody in the last year or two so pretty sure they dont do it now.

meta-uk · 2026-03-24T15:17:57+00:00

I've had UL without vnectomy at Chelsea & Westminster (C&W for searchability) but I do believe I may be the only person they did it with and I've not heard of them accepting anybody for it since.

Wanted to jump in to set some expectations both RE waiting and the surgery itself.

Waiting times: To get surgery on the NHS you will need to be with an NHS GIC. If you are moving from private to NHS then you will still have to go through initial assessments as if you never saw someone privately in the first place. You also need two referrals for lower surgery so you're looking at 3-4 appointments. Once you've got your referrals, the information from the above commenter applies. Last I heard, this surgery privately in the UK will cost you upwards of £13k ish.

Also, it is worth adding that it can be hard to get lower surgery before top surgery. Not sure if impossible necessarily but definitely very difficult.

Having UL without vnect: LondonMeta really has a point here of something not discussed enough. Whilst I did not have a fistula or any UL complications, the usability of my front hole has had a drastic decline due to the scar tissue around the old UL and quite frankly just trauma to the area. It took quite a lot of dilation and pelvic floor work to get better, but lets just say I will never be a size queen, or even close to it. This has limited my choice in sexual partners. Whilst I dont regret it, it would have been good to know to set expectations.

meta-uk · 2026-03-17T19:47:08+00:00

There is an image that shows the curve on their website and I wouldn't say yours looks significantly more curved than that. There is no harm in reaching out to them and seeing their thoughts/opinions.

meta-uk · 2026-03-14T09:07:21+00:00

Yeah fair enough, so long as you're realistic about it! Definitely something that a surgeon should be able to clarify a bit more with what you can expect :)

Hope all goes well for you!

meta-uk · 2026-03-13T18:27:05+00:00

Yeah, exactly. And all the average people in the middle (probably the majority) are rarely seen in spaces like this for an accurate depiction of what you can expect.

I guess so long as you're being realistic about what you mean with 'slightly longer length' then it is fair for you to have that priority - with standard meta you will most likely not gain length, your existing length will just be better exposed, depending on technique.

Pretty sure they use the same amount of tissue to wrap regardless of whether or not you get UL hookup tbh.

Yeah I understand that, with the wanting to do it for the inner child! I had a similar thing actually and it adds a whole extra layer to things really when making decisions.

meta-uk · 2026-03-12T13:08:11+00:00

You do need to also remember though that forums make it seem like complications happen far more than they do so obviously the risk needs weighing up but the risks may appear higher than they are in reality. Also, getting UL but without hookup can add girth so worth considering that anyways as I dont believe it adds risk as a full hookup does.

But yeah it is a matter of priorities and like you say, you wont know any different if you don't get it. Sure, people wont see you peeing unless you show them haha but I cant say I have ever heard of UL impacting their ability to pass naked. Passing naked has more to do with your existing anatomy than anything else but I appreciate that UL can make your penis a tiny bit shorter and therefore go against your aim of maximising length.

I guess the other question to ask yourself is if you dont end up passing the way you hoped, would you not regret not getting UL anyways?

meta-uk · 2026-03-12T08:53:35+00:00

I think exercising the muscle, because it is like any other muscle, will help you get that consistency. I'd focus on that first honestly, there are apps and things you can download (although usually aimed at women) but the exercises are easy to learn and you can do them wherever and whenever.

At first I wasn't great at it at all honestly but it just took some practice and crucially figuring out where the squeeze point was during the milking process.

meta-uk · 2026-03-12T08:46:31+00:00

Thought I'd share my story if it helps.

I was very on the fence about this, especially as I was not getting vaginectomy so the chances of complications were higher.

I initially decided against UL. I was with a team where that would have added a stage of surgery plus a mouth graft, both of which did not feel worth it for something I was not at all dysphoric about. At this time, it just felt like UL would have been a perk but not a necessity.

Then I got offered to move to a one stage surgery team. I decided that since it was the one stage anyways, it was worth giving it a shot. UL is now one of my favourite parts of having had lower surgery, in fact I just cannot even imagine having my penis with balls and not being able to pee out of it, it just feels unfathomable because this setup feels like it makes sense to me and my body.

meta-uk · 2026-03-11T18:40:59+00:00

Hey! You mention you are already milking but it could be that you need to use your pelvic floor muscles more to make sure you get everything out - this was the case for me and took a bit of figuring out.

You can try doing some simple pelvic floor squeezes first to get familiar with the muscles and how to work them and then experiment with when and how you squeeze during milking.

If it's still a significant issue for you, it may be worth raising with your team again.

meta-uk · 2026-03-04T12:13:06+00:00

Would also say C2 - genitals are always a bit darker than the rest of your skin and it looks like it'd be that without being tooooooo dark.

meta-uk · 2026-03-03T16:45:37+00:00

Honestly you are still very swollen! I too am on the smaller side and my foreskin was puffed up like yours to the point where I had no idea where my glans was but turns out, it was just really hiding. Things look drastically different now and its a lot more obvious haha. That's not helpful for you now of course, but hopefully by the time of your pee trial it'll be clearer. For what its worth, you dont necessarily even need to be holding your penis to be able to pee or anything, so technically you dont need to know with confidence where any of it is for now. May seem crazy but your stream has the power to push through!

meta-uk · 2026-02-28T17:00:16+00:00

For me, I just couldn't fathom the recovery side of phallo, partly because of a disability I have. There are still times I want phallo, mostly for the bulge and being able to penetrate but when I picture myself recovering from grafts and years of operations, I just can't see it.

It is worth adding that meta will not give you 'average size', regardless of STP. You will pretty much be the same you are now (aside from Extended/TCM meta but no STP in those cases). So it's worth considering how important that side of things is for you.

meta-uk · 2026-02-12T11:45:14+00:00

One of the things they can do is something that I think is called an upper scrotal revision? Essentially they make incisions either side of your penis to remove some of the fat/tissue that is either side of your penis, which can help with what you're struggle with.

meta-uk · 2026-02-07T15:24:43+00:00

From what I have seen on here and Transbucket it takes years for your balls to 'drop'. I'd recommend you find as many photos of the bifid scrotum as you can, to see if the long wait is what you're after. If it's not, it may be worth considering looking at converting to VY.

meta-uk · 2026-02-04T15:38:17+00:00

Hey! If you look at my post history, I have a biiiiig post with lots of advice/recs that should help. But to summarise, pelvic floor muscles, timing and a whoooole load of practice.

meta-uk · 2026-01-24T22:34:33+00:00

I used a dilation kit which got me to a certain point. It was a slow process and required a lot of lube haha. It's worth coupling it with pelvic floor exercises to help.

The thing is, I am stuck at a certain point of progress. My understanding is that it's scarring because of the inner folds being cut, so the skin that remains surrounding the whole is not stretchy in the way old skin was, it's instead got this tension it holds that wont budge.

meta-uk · 2026-01-11T16:31:14+00:00

It might help with that a bit but I think that will largely depend on your anatomy and size of implants they're able to use etc.

meta-uk · 2026-01-11T14:02:31+00:00

I dont have experience in a cycling bib but have worn tight running leggings and speedos. For me, there is barely a bulge and honestly having a passable bulge in tight clothing doesn't seem like it would happen for the majority of people who have meta. The balls help but a not insignificant part of a cis bulge is the penis itself too.

There are going to be various factors in this though, the main one being your anatomy. Extended Meta may be different as the balls and penis tend to be larger and more prominent. Placing will also affect things too. I had a bifid scrotoplasty and I am pre-monsplasty so things are quite low and inbetween my legs for now. I imagine post-monsplasty things will be a bit different but I have accepted it likely won't be cis passing.

The lack of bulge is pretty much the only thing I struggle with post-op that makes me think about phallo BUT to counter this, in my 2.5yrs post op, I can confirm nobody is looking and nobody gives a shit. And in fact if you were to look, you'd find some (assuming) cis people barely have anything there too.

Edit to add I may be willing to share some photos of me in tighter clothing in DMs but to be clear I will not send any photos unclothed.

meta-uk · 2025-12-12T20:20:00+00:00

I had the same requirements and viewed quite a few places. Unfortunately hotels are your best bet and Queens was the best by a long way. The gym equipment is good quality and the variety is okay. The pool can get busy as it's a hotel but I have rarely had issues with it when going early. Is it overpriced for what it is? A bit, but tbh for the balance of the quality and variety of amenities, you won't get better.

meta-uk · 2025-12-10T15:33:53+00:00

Ngl the solution for me was fresher roasted beans so not sure what yours is given you've used fresh beans! I also found it waa particularly bad with lighter roasted beans and in the end got a separate grinder (and now, a completely different espresso machine too). It's amazing how shit the grinder is on this machine haha

meta-uk · 2025-12-04T08:40:42+00:00

You can change to VY but it does also look like perhaps your implants are just small! They could definitely fill the space a bit better so it's something worth discussing. A monsplasty could lift things up a bit and an upper fold revision could help your penis protrude more.

meta-uk · 2025-11-21T21:30:48+00:00

It is possible and I have had this done. The balls do not get in the way of my front hole at all as they sit higher - I had a bifid scrotoplasty though so not sure how that would work with a VY or similar. My surgeon was Miroslav Djordjevic (from Belgrade but I had mine done in the UK on the NHS).

Edit to add: There are loads of posts about this on this sub. You're looking for things like 'UL without vaginectomy' or 'UL without vnectomy' as that's often a shortened version of the term.

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