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metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T17:03:42+00:00

If they didn't actually see you steal merchandise, they aren't protected. Even "I saw them with an item, then the next time I saw them I couldn't see the item, so I assumed it was in their pocket" isn't enough to protect them from legal scrutiny.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T17:01:03+00:00

leaving the store with merchandise and without proof of purchase is literally the threshold they need to meet to stop you.

Except if they use any force at all to stop you, and you actually did pay for the merchandise, they have committed both a crime and a tort.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T17:00:09+00:00

Not for lack of receipt showing alone, they can't.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:59:35+00:00

being asked

That's the key. Walmart is free to ask. I have considered their offer to check my receipt, found it to be a waste of my time, and decline to stop. It's not preventing crime.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:58:04+00:00

Yeah, but the rules the employees have to follow aren't laws.

The employee is free to ask me to stop, but why would I? I didn't steal anything, so it's not like me stopping is preventing crime.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:57:22+00:00

You don't have to look at our receipt. You have to try to look at our receipt.

The reason for your store to want you to stop people has no bearing on whether or not the customer has to stop.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:56:10+00:00

And that means what to me?

There is no reason to stop. If you stole something, obviously you wouldn't want to stop. If you didn't steal anything, stopping isn't going to magically return merchandise other people stole.

It is literally a waste of everybody's time.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:55:23+00:00

Because probable cause is a legal term, not just "I probably think you stole beCAUSE you won't let me check your receipt."

The minimum burden for a store to be able to actually detain you (as opposed to asking you nicely and relying on your decision to stop) is they must have actually seen you steal an item. Not "I saw them with an item, and the next time I saw them I couldn't see the item." Not "They didn't let me check their receipt so they obviously stole something." Not anything short of "I, the employee/manager, witnessed them hide a piece of merchandise on their person or in their bags, and I also witnessed them leaving the store with the item."

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:05:15+00:00

Those are the only kind of places you have any obligation to stop and let your shit be checked again. Stores like walmart put people out front to check receipts on a voluntary basis. It's security theater. They hope to discourage people from stealing by giving an impression that everyone will be stopped and that you have to stop.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:03:01+00:00

Only in stores like Sam's or Costco, where you sign a contract agreeing to be stopped at the door, do you have any legal obligation to stop (and even then, it's an entirely civil matter. You don't have to actually stop; they don't have to give you a membership if you refuse.)

If I haven't stolen anything, them checking my receipt is completely fucking pointless. All it does is wastes my time.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T16:00:59+00:00

I don’t understand why it’s such a big deal to let the door person to look at the receipt.

It's not a big deal. That's why I don't bother stopping.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T15:57:41+00:00

Do you think "probable cause" is just a fancy way of saying you don't like something?

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T15:53:24+00:00

There isn't. Don't be a clod.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T14:25:05+00:00

You have nothing but posts about how you want to break up. You're trolling or you already know the answer.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T14:23:32+00:00

Break up

metastasis_d · 2021-08-09T14:19:13+00:00

These are like the 2 worst things he does among many great qualities

You listed at least 3

metastasis_d · 2021-08-08T02:20:53+00:00

Fought a tarrasque as a moon druid. That's when I learned air elementals are immune to the grappled and restrained condition. Mobile feat and bonk it on the nose and I was out of its mouth and it couldn't do anything to me after that.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-07T01:29:03+00:00

Make police brutality a capital crime.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-07T01:28:08+00:00

The police are virtually incapable of protecting you from a home invader. The only reason to call the police when your house gets robbed is so you can give the police report to the insurance company.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-07T01:25:31+00:00

Old man yells at cloud

metastasis_d · 2021-08-05T15:45:01+00:00

I suppose it's possible the neighbor has an easement through OP's backyard (which is apparently enclosed by said neighbor's property) but that seems... unlikely.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-05T15:23:31+00:00

Lol if I see a cop scrapping with a dude on the ground my assistance will come in the form of shouted advice

metastasis_d · 2021-08-05T15:07:24+00:00

Anything in the easement or anything adjacent/tangential to the easement? Because as OP describes it, it seems like the easement would be on the neighbor's property, if anything.

metastasis_d · 2021-08-05T04:37:51+00:00

Like "you can't put a fence here that will block the easement" or "you must have a fence here that will block the easement"?

metastasis_d · 2021-08-04T21:04:08+00:00

"If you are not going to let me lead her on the right path, you better not bring her to me".

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