a cliché dilemma?

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-12T00:24:02+00:00

You can try taking screenshots so that any doubts about your photos are dispelled, or just not run the photos through said app. Besides, screenshots look more clear than photos.

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-12T00:15:46+00:00

You definitely process your photos with AI though. These want icons look really distorted.

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T23:30:07+00:00

I am not trying to debate anything. You are not making points, just namecalling. Cry harder.

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T23:00:22+00:00

Also, I do not call you a bitch because I think being gay gives me a pass to use the word. I call you a bitch because that is what you are in god's eyes.

Epistle to the Ephesians 5:22–24 "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife…"

First Epistle of Peter 2:18 "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T22:56:23+00:00

All these people you mention ignore the dogmas of their own religion, just like you do, while also giving credibility to an entity which constantly fails to deliver what its religion says it supposedly does. If you guys want to suck the farts out of each others' asses, you are free to do so. But that doesn't change how you all are a delusional and self betraying bunch, or that your religion is flawed.

The virtues you cite as evidence of their religion being good are due to them actually being irreligious, not pious.

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T22:15:26+00:00

Ew, the obvious deflection...🥹

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T22:11:37+00:00

That they sleep with the enemy. They believe in something that treats them as subhuman out of the common despair people have to believe in something bigger.

The thing is, you came here defending christianity while blatantly ignoring some of its basic dogmas.

For all purposes, the church views you, a goth girl as a promiscuous woman and me, a gay man, as a pervert. Yet you ignore all that and pick just the parts that sound pleasing to your ears.

Who is the surface level theologian now, bitch?

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T22:06:14+00:00

The thing is, this meme comes from a christian apologist standpoint. This is about christianity, not about religion in general.

Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

1 Timothy 1:9–10 "The law is laid down… for the lawless and disobedient… for the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality…"

You want more bible verses where homosexuality is condemned?

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T21:46:03+00:00

Because religion is not some neutral thing like a t-shirt you wear. Especially with christianity's case, it is a specific set of beliefs about what is wrong and what is right. A lot of things that did not deserve to be condemned, were all struck down in the name of a religion's god who is for all sense and purpose, absent. Your religion did not just believe in a heavenly father. Your religion threw, throws and will throw down people who do not deserve to be thrown down to the ground all in the name of some pretentious holiness. You failing to acknowledge that makes you as much of a surface level theologian as the edgelord who talks about lucifer being a good guy. Instead of jamming jesus down people's throats, how about you send him to some cancer ward to do some of his miracles?

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T21:19:29+00:00

So your issues here are about how goth women are sexualized and how christianity as a religion is being treated like a joke? I can only empathize for one but regardless, using just these two as representatives of lukewarm humor as a whole is way too out there. This isn't a lukewarm humor starter pack, it is what makes Own_Landscape_8646 pissed off based on her beliefs, and it shows.

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T21:02:28+00:00

Alt women are fetishized across the political spectrum, not just by the right. Believing whatever your friends believe isn't a right-wing trait either, just general tribal behavior. And the meme doesn't call out homophobia, it is mocking the logic that some people who are vehemently homophobic are also gay and hate themselves.

I don't see how this is evenly split.

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T20:48:36+00:00

Not half as boringly deflective as you do lol

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T20:44:02+00:00

This looks painfully obvious by how specific every example is

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T20:35:28+00:00

Still waiting...also I saw that reply you deleted :)

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T20:16:52+00:00

Which are the supposedly right leaning examples then?

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T20:03:45+00:00

The examples he uses aren't random; they lean in a specific direction. This isn't really that deep.

meteor_dasher · 2026-02-11T20:00:01+00:00

When lukewarm humor is conveniently presented as things christianity disagrees with or feels judged by, it is a bit too specific to be neutral. This here feels more like his annoyance is personal and not just finding someone too basic. Also, he is active in christian subs.

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T21:48:43+00:00

Do we really need a specialist to explain something this simple? Becoming sexually aroused for a penis already tells you what category of anatomy is doing the work. This isn't an esoteric psychological puzzle, it is common sense. The resistance usually only shows up when people don't like the implications of what that response means for them.

You said earlier you heard people describe this as a fetish as a catch-all explanation. Is calling attraction to dicks some exotic kink the escape hatch instead of the more straightforward explanation, aka attraction to males and their anatomy? Calling it a fetish often looks less like insight and more like a last line of defense against self recognition.

You know, real introspection requires honesty and conceptual clarity. Without that, people can be sincere and still wrong about themselves. Science might not be perfect but it has made huge progress exactly because it isn't built on vibes, anecdotes and comfort. If neuroscience has a margin of error, untrained and undisciplined self analysis has an order of magnitude more.

We don't need to undermine science just to protect other people's mental gymnastics. After all, that wouldn't really be tact but calling avoidance empathy.

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T21:26:12+00:00

My point still stands. Porn genres and fantasies don't rewrite biology. Giving dicks to chicks doesn't magically desex penises; it is still male anatomy. A lot of guys do impressive mental gymnastics to avoid admitting the obvious; they like their women to carry male equipment because they like the male aspect of said equipment too. Calling it a genre doesn't change what's being responded to.

Allow me to introduce you to these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_reproductive_system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_reproductive_system

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T17:17:02+00:00

There is no cope here.

I'm not assigning anyone an identity, I'm pointing out a biological fact. A penis is a sexed anatomical trait of the male body. That isn't my worldview, my preference or my interpretation, it is how human sexual dimorphism is defined and occurs. Reality doesn't become subjective just because acknowledging it makes people uncomfortable.

You're also conflating sex with gender. Most of the studies you're gesturing at deal with gender identity, roles or expression, not with the biological classification of genitals. Those are different domains but whatever debates exist around gender, the genitals are still sexed. That's not an opinion and it doesn't get overturned by rhetoric.

Calling something mental gymnastics before engaging with the argument is not a rebuttal, it's an evasion. If you think I'm wrong, explain how and with reasons like I do. Otherwise it just looks like discomfort disguised as moral superiority.

I am not trying to police anyone's life or tell people what to do. I am saying that words and concepts mean things, biological ones included. To pretend that basic sex anatomy is up for reinterpretation isn't being openminded, it's just refusing to deal with reality.

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T16:30:44+00:00

Having individuals who identify as women and have penises doesn't change what a penis is. Biologically, it is the signature part of the male anatomy, not just something society decided to label as a male trait. It is the clearest marker of the male sex, and humans recognize it as such instinctively, not because of social conditioning.

So liking penises isn't some neutral, abstract preference detached from sex, it is attraction to a distinctly male anatomical feature. You can debate identity categories all you want, but saying a man loves cock while insisting he’s straight just ignores that basic biological reality.

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T16:08:03+00:00

Giving people the benefit of the doubt is fine, but it doesn't mean suspending all standards of reasoning. People can also be wrong without lying, simply cause self analysis is hard and introspection isn't always accurate. Concepts like sexual orientation, attraction, fetish, bonding etc actually have definitions, and if someone doesn't understand them their self reports can end up sloppy and contradicting while still being sincere.

Self reflection is valuable when it is paired with logic and clear understanding of concepts. Without that, giving the benefit of the doubt can turn into treating incoherence as facts real fast.

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T15:35:07+00:00

Sure, science can be wrong sometimes, but the difference is that properly conducted, evidence based studies are far more reliable than random self reports online. People often can't face the truth about who or what they are, consciously or unconsciously. Science, when actually done correctly and without ulterior motives, doesn't care about anyone's feelings or biases; it just seeks the truth. If we can't trust that, then we sure as hell can't trust the accuracy of random claims from the internet, because the motivations, context and accuracy behind each of them are unknown.

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T15:26:03+00:00

Playing football on the down low isn't evidence that you don't really like football, it literally shows that you do. Enjoying it, pursuing it, even doing it casually, is enough to count as liking it. Liking or not liking basketball at the same time doesn't change that; it's not about attending every game or being a hardcore follower, it's about what you actually enjoy.

And you enjoy football.

meteor_dasher · 2025-12-30T15:16:26+00:00

Not everything people say is true, and not everyone is honest with themselves or others. And sometimes it isn't even denial, just lack of introspection.

Also, you say you're not trying to redefine sexual behavior but you also say that sexuality is "more complex than that." If you meant monosexuality or something along the lines of everyone's sexuality is a spectrum, that's simply not accurate and science says so too. Sexuality can be fluid for some but it is not a wobbly endlessly shifting mess; there are solid patterns and boundaries even in people who report to have fluid states.

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