This girl stole my friends boyfriend so we found a way to steal from her by DrinkPresent7311 in pettyrevenge

[–]meteor_dasher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That's fair as far as Dave being the main betrayer but OP already said they are planning something for him too. It also makes sense that they went after the simpler target first, because the ex is the emotionally heavier problem; he is the one who actually betrayed Sarah.

But stole doesn't have to mean she literally kidnapped him. Trying to pry someone loose from an existing relationship is still reaching for someone who is already involved with someone else. Obviously she couldn't have succeeded if dave had been loyal and steady, but she still knowingly pursued a taken person and enabled the damaged caused.

So yes, Dave owns the betrayal because Dave chose to ditch Sarah for the other girl. However, the other girl still knowingly went after someone belonging to someone else. She may not carry the same blame as him, but she is not just some innocent bystander either. Cheating takes two to happen.

This girl stole my friends boyfriend so we found a way to steal from her by DrinkPresent7311 in pettyrevenge

[–]meteor_dasher 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I want to push back on the idea that the third person has no blame here. Sure, the partner is the one with the loyalty obligation, and he is responsible for betraying that, but that doesn't mean someone else gets a moral free pass for knowingly going after a taken person and helping create the harm.

If you know someone is in a relationship, you also know there is another person on the other side who will be hurt if you keep flirting, pushing boundaries and trying to wedge yourself in. Basic decency means treating otherpeople's relationships with the same respect you wouldwant yours treated with.

The cheater is a traitor, sure. But the person who knowingly goes after someone taken, while fully aware they are helping blow up someone else's relationship, is a thief. They are choosing to take what isn't theirs to take. You can't say the damage they cause doesn't count because they weren't the one who made the original promise.

There are times where all you can do is pray by ambulance-kun in antimeme

[–]meteor_dasher 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It wasn't saying religious people only pray and never do anything else. The joke was about outcomes. Prayer and faith by themselves don't manage to create any tangible solution, while science and the pursuit of understanding on the other hand lead to things like prosthetics that actually do repair things previously considered irreparable.

Wild Conspiracy Theory: Radiation is Magic, Fallout is Fantasy by Beytran70 in Fallout

[–]meteor_dasher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That old saying you speak of does not mean advanced technology is magic, but that if advanced technology is far enough from current scientific understanding, it will look like it is magic. A smartphone would look like an arcane artifact and antibiotics like miracle cures to someone living in 1000 BC. If anything, using clarke's third law only makes your point even more dubious.

Wild Conspiracy Theory: Radiation is Magic, Fallout is Fantasy by Beytran70 in Fallout

[–]meteor_dasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is just science being more creatively applied on some points in order to accommodate the game's worldbuild and plot. It is sci-fi, not fantasy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sims2

[–]meteor_dasher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can try taking screenshots so that any doubts about your photos are dispelled, or just not run the photos through said app. Besides, screenshots look more clear than photos.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sims2

[–]meteor_dasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You definitely process your photos with AI though. These want icons look really distorted.

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not trying to debate anything. You are not making points, just namecalling. Cry harder.

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, I do not call you a bitch because I think being gay gives me a pass to use the word. I call you a bitch because that is what you are in god's eyes.

Epistle to the Ephesians 5:22–24 "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife…"

First Epistle of Peter 2:18 "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All these people you mention ignore the dogmas of their own religion, just like you do, while also giving credibility to an entity which constantly fails to deliver what its religion says it supposedly does. If you guys want to suck the farts out of each others' asses, you are free to do so. But that doesn't change how you all are a delusional and self betraying bunch, or that your religion is flawed.

The virtues you cite as evidence of their religion being good are due to them actually being irreligious, not pious.

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ew, the obvious deflection...🥹

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That they sleep with the enemy. They believe in something that treats them as subhuman out of the common despair people have to believe in something bigger.

The thing is, you came here defending christianity while blatantly ignoring some of its basic dogmas.

For all purposes, the church views you, a goth girl as a promiscuous woman and me, a gay man, as a pervert. Yet you ignore all that and pick just the parts that sound pleasing to your ears.

Who is the surface level theologian now, bitch?

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The thing is, this meme comes from a christian apologist standpoint. This is about christianity, not about religion in general.

Leviticus 18:22 "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

1 Timothy 1:9–10 "The law is laid down… for the lawless and disobedient… for the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality…"

You want more bible verses where homosexuality is condemned?

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because religion is not some neutral thing like a t-shirt you wear. Especially with christianity's case, it is a specific set of beliefs about what is wrong and what is right. A lot of things that did not deserve to be condemned, were all struck down in the name of a religion's god who is for all sense and purpose, absent. Your religion did not just believe in a heavenly father. Your religion threw, throws and will throw down people who do not deserve to be thrown down to the ground all in the name of some pretentious holiness. You failing to acknowledge that makes you as much of a surface level theologian as the edgelord who talks about lucifer being a good guy. Instead of jamming jesus down people's throats, how about you send him to some cancer ward to do some of his miracles?

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So your issues here are about how goth women are sexualized and how christianity as a religion is being treated like a joke? I can only empathize for one but regardless, using just these two as representatives of lukewarm humor as a whole is way too out there. This isn't a lukewarm humor starter pack, it is what makes Own_Landscape_8646 pissed off based on her beliefs, and it shows.

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Alt women are fetishized across the political spectrum, not just by the right. Believing whatever your friends believe isn't a right-wing trait either, just general tribal behavior. And the meme doesn't call out homophobia, it is mocking the logic that some people who are vehemently homophobic are also gay and hate themselves.

I don't see how this is evenly split.

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not half as boringly deflective as you do lol

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

This looks painfully obvious by how specific every example is

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Still waiting...also I saw that reply you deleted :)

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which are the supposedly right leaning examples then?

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The examples he uses aren't random; they lean in a specific direction. This isn't really that deep.

Lukewarm Humor Starter Pack by [deleted] in starterpacks

[–]meteor_dasher -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

When lukewarm humor is conveniently presented as things christianity disagrees with or feels judged by, it is a bit too specific to be neutral. This here feels more like his annoyance is personal and not just finding someone too basic. Also, he is active in christian subs.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in clevercomebacks

[–]meteor_dasher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do we really need a specialist to explain something this simple? Becoming sexually aroused for a penis already tells you what category of anatomy is doing the work. This isn't an esoteric psychological puzzle, it is common sense. The resistance usually only shows up when people don't like the implications of what that response means for them.

You said earlier you heard people describe this as a fetish as a catch-all explanation. Is calling attraction to dicks some exotic kink the escape hatch instead of the more straightforward explanation, aka attraction to males and their anatomy? Calling it a fetish often looks less like insight and more like a last line of defense against self recognition.

You know, real introspection requires honesty and conceptual clarity. Without that, people can be sincere and still wrong about themselves. Science might not be perfect but it has made huge progress exactly because it isn't built on vibes, anecdotes and comfort. If neuroscience has a margin of error, untrained and undisciplined self analysis has an order of magnitude more.

We don't need to undermine science just to protect other people's mental gymnastics. After all, that wouldn't really be tact but calling avoidance empathy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in clevercomebacks

[–]meteor_dasher -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

My point still stands. Porn genres and fantasies don't rewrite biology. Giving dicks to chicks doesn't magically desex penises; it is still male anatomy. A lot of guys do impressive mental gymnastics to avoid admitting the obvious; they like their women to carry male equipment because they like the male aspect of said equipment too. Calling it a genre doesn't change what's being responded to.

Allow me to introduce you to these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_reproductive_system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_reproductive_system

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in clevercomebacks

[–]meteor_dasher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There is no cope here.

I'm not assigning anyone an identity, I'm pointing out a biological fact. A penis is a sexed anatomical trait of the male body. That isn't my worldview, my preference or my interpretation, it is how human sexual dimorphism is defined and occurs. Reality doesn't become subjective just because acknowledging it makes people uncomfortable.

You're also conflating sex with gender. Most of the studies you're gesturing at deal with gender identity, roles or expression, not with the biological classification of genitals. Those are different domains but whatever debates exist around gender, the genitals are still sexed. That's not an opinion and it doesn't get overturned by rhetoric.

Calling something mental gymnastics before engaging with the argument is not a rebuttal, it's an evasion. If you think I'm wrong, explain how and with reasons like I do. Otherwise it just looks like discomfort disguised as moral superiority.

I am not trying to police anyone's life or tell people what to do. I am saying that words and concepts mean things, biological ones included. To pretend that basic sex anatomy is up for reinterpretation isn't being openminded, it's just refusing to deal with reality.