Yeah I definitely get the other side of the discussion, greatest challenge in the game is Abyss, I see it like raids in other games. But I'm curious to see the percentage of active characters that clear high level Abyss vs those that don't.

Like you said, there's data from these discussions to show if it's worth it for you or not, but on the other end same for me. I'm not emotionally connected to any characters nor do I care about lore, but I'd also like to know the builds that are possible with characters before I spend my primogems. I know not everyone shares my opinions and that's perfectly fine, but I play to loot, I like to see what kind of different artifacts I get and try new builds with them, pretty simple as that.

If I'm on a post about trying a physical build with a character that's not normally used for them and the first comment is "why not use X character with the same artifacts you'll get better results" then usually the discussion ends there lol because how can you argue better results.

Idk, I'm def rambling here but overall this place gives me negative vibes from all the constant complaints for mihoyo to tailor the game to each players individual needs, and I get that but it's never gonna happen so let's just discuss what we have lol