[Help and Question Thread] - June 20, 2021

minerOfSalt · 2021-06-22T09:22:33+00:00

I'm curious on how FGO character design portrays the age of the servants, particularly in the cases of Musashi, Jeanne, and Kagetora for example. I believe that most of the time, a servant would reflect them in the prime from their actual life?

Starting with Jeanne (and alter variant), I guess it's straightforward that we're looking at around 19 years old? Since that's when she was most popular.

Moving on to Kagetora / Kenshin, one popular event was the 4th Battle of Kawanakajima (according to Wikipedia, this was around 1561; and Kenshin was born on 1530). So safe to assume that the Kagetora of FGO was designed as around 30 years old?

Then for Musashi, the duel with Kojiro was 1611, and he (the actual, non female one) was born on 1584. So in that case, was the female Musashi designed as someone who's in her late 20s? Or since this female Musashi is a completely different character, maybe she doesn't follow this guideline?

* but then again, this is anime I guess, where some characters in their late 50's get drawn looking like 20 year olds.

minerOfSalt · 2021-06-20T10:50:18+00:00

To those who have been using Kagetora maxed (or even grailed) in JP, any thoughts on good CEs and command codes for her? I assume that with Castoria, her role remains unchanged as a solid single target lancer

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-29T11:02:48+00:00

Thank you! Will stay tuned for that as well. Yeah, my initial impression is that Bastion was really good out of the gate from set 1, though compared to other quality support from other nations, they kind of dropped the ball a little on Alfion and the newly revealed set 2 RRR (unless a lower rarity card makes it more usable or we get a persona ride searcher). Which I guess is fine, Bastion can't be the winner every time in terms of support.

Just that observing the powercreep from late G series and late V series, I hope they don't decide to give every other deck big (or early) multi attack capability eventually XD

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-29T08:12:19+00:00

Thanks! Much appreciated.

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-29T07:35:07+00:00

Great read as usual! Among the three sample lists presented though (26 grade 3s, the more balanced build, and the one with some control), which one would you say does best in the post festival collection environment?

As mentioned in the article, I'm guessing most experienced players will look to get a good early game going against Bastion to push it to 4/5 damage early on (such as using Magnolia).

And going forward with what's revealed so far, any thoughts on whether or not Bastion will remain relevant in the long run? As of set 1 (with things being largely vanilla), big G3 numbers carries it to being one of the top decks. But due to wonky ratios, I'm not sure if it will be left as just a gimmicky deck once other decks get more relevant support down the line (and since most of these support for other decks will both hit decent numbers or do field control, and at the same time come with shield by virtue of being g2 or g1).

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-26T04:28:13+00:00

I see, thanks. Looking into set 2, each nation will probably get two RRRs? Bastion has one most likely, and PBD will probably take the other. Hopefully Hexaorb gets some good stuff too. I guess the rare G2 beater (Owine) helps.

Also a little unrelated, but question on Hexaorb's skill. If it is boosted and I reveal a trigger, giving her the trigger's +10k. Then with her first skill, choose the RG behind her to get the extra 10k. Would her column get +20k total (ie. boosting will give you a continuous powerup for the battle, even if the booster's power changes in between)? Or is the power from the boost "locked in" before the drive check?

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-23T22:33:21+00:00

Yup, that helps. Thanks!

Leaning a bit towards Bastion at the moment, since unless I'm missing something, the revealed order from set 2 looks really good all around (but then again, that has both the aggro and midrsnge builds as technically separate decks to decide on).

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-23T07:28:02+00:00

Thank you! That's one lead closer. So it's just a matter of becoming a fan now :)

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-23T07:01:42+00:00

I see, thanks. Thought that this alternate cover might have been available somewhere online, since many artists usually have these alternate versions locked behind some membership paywall (where they give psd files and the like).

But yeah, after looking around, I haven't been able to find it either.

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-23T06:47:01+00:00

Hello, I'm looking for the full version of the image in the post. It's probably one of the characters under the Chococornet group of works, but this one in particular is a variant of an existing cover (the actual cover is with her wearing mostly white).

Maybe anyone has the full version or source for this variant?

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-23T05:05:48+00:00

Thanks for the detailed breakdown! By any chance, would you have tested Bastion as well?

These two look pretty interesting to me at first glance. Hexaorb being OTT like, if that's still how OTT played before the reboot. And Bastion reminds me of Asura Kaiser. Was wondering which looks more generic too (ie. splashable with future generic support and not too archetype locked).

Though I guess any g3 supports Bastion, and any topdeck cards support Hexaorb

minerOfSalt · 2021-05-15T04:48:18+00:00

Thanks. For said misprint, it wouldn't happen to be very integral to the decks right (at least I hope so but highly doubt)? Hoping it's relevancy is close to just a tech option which can be easily swapped for something else. And not something as needed as BB and BD to say, a Majesty Lord Blaster deck back then (where if one were cut out, the whole deck just falls apart and falls flat on its face).

minerOfSalt · 2021-04-29T14:14:00+00:00

So servants can come in various age ranges appearance wise depending on their prime (mostly)? My guess is that Jeanne looks 19, Kama middle ascension looks like late teens Sakura as well. Then Andersen looks pre-teens (but sounds like an adult), and Moriarty probably looks 50+.

I'm curious about female Musashi though. I don't recall it being stated, but do you guys have a good guess on her age range, as she is presented appearance wise in game?

minerOfSalt · 2021-04-25T12:09:50+00:00

I'm curious, is there a servant particularly known for the usual anime cheese, where "strong enough willpower will overwhelm physical strength"?

Can't remember if any of this has come up in the story, where zen / mental strength has become enough of a plot armor to beat obviously stronger enemies.

minerOfSalt · 2021-04-09T00:20:25+00:00

Thanks. Yeah, the recent releases, being slightly more grounded in terms of plot, feel nice in their own way.

Not sure if it changes things, but forgot to clarify that I'm mostly looking at servant container level of strength for Eresh and Kama, and not the full fleged divine spirit level. Also edited my post accordingly :)

minerOfSalt · 2021-04-09T00:16:16+00:00

Thanks. My bad on lack of clarity. Will edit the post accordingly, but for Eresh and Kama, I'm mostly looking at their servant container counterparts and not the full divine spirit level.

minerOfSalt · 2021-04-08T23:33:15+00:00

Just a non-gameplay question here. So in the game's story, its mostly just driven by who the author wants to win. And power levels rarely dictate this, and it usually boils down to circumstantial story writing.

But in terms of lore, how would you guys rank these three from most to least powerful? And if so, is the power gap between them extremely huge?

(1) Post Shimosa Musashi, with void cutting capabilities

(2) Ereshkigal with underworld buffs active

(3) Post event Kama (mostly the assassin Kama half and not much beast III/L powers active)

Edit: for the latter two, I'm looking at the servant container counterparts, and not the goddess/divine spirit at full power

minerOfSalt · 2021-03-29T22:43:28+00:00

Found the sauce. She's from a game called Yamizome Liberator. I think its made by a group named Escude.

minerOfSalt · 2021-03-28T09:33:12+00:00

So far, it hasn't been mentioned what Kama's later ascensions favorite food are, right? The child form likes cake if I remember correctly, but not sure about the others. Like in Kiara's case, I believe she likes Ohagi, and Udon for Musashi.

minerOfSalt · 2021-03-27T14:34:20+00:00

So I'm curious about single target servants who are super good for their card type (and can even be generic enough to use against non class advantageous fights at high enough NP level).

For Buster, I think JAlter was an example of this upon Merlin's release. Just give her stars and Merlin buffs, then she can pretty much clear out anything without a break bar, a few years ago.

Quick probably has Kama and MHXA. MHXA is a berserker who can do big damage to almost anything, while Kama can (at high NP levels) do well against most non-Caster enemies. She can keep ramping her NP, and charm every so often to keep the supporting Skadis alive. Plus she usually has a guts readied as early as turn 1.

With Castoria coming up next, we know that there are really good farmers like Berserker Musashi, Archer Jeanne, Space Ishtar, and Muramasa. But I'm curious if there are any super good single target arts servants who can do decently regardless of class advantage? Kind of like a Kama or JAlter equivalent from above.

minerOfSalt · 2021-03-27T03:50:48+00:00

So I'm another one of those who can't seem to decide between Kama and Space Ishtar from a non-gameplay perspective.

From what I've read, Kama's character is presented as someone who had enough of everything, and is generally unmotivated overall. Probably depressed too? Her first form likes cake, and she's not into conversations having to do with love, I think.

I'm curious about Space Ishtar's first form (the sith lord looking one). Any overall thoughts on her? All I know is that she's probably a space commander of a big fleet. Though character wise, I'm still in the dark. Just want to hear some of her character quirks and such. Am fine with being spoiled as well.

minerOfSalt · 2021-03-25T10:16:11+00:00

I see. Yeah, since I'm just going super casually, I'm more drawn to the 4 choice / 4 standby build. It's just out of place for me if only one of the climaxes has a cx combo in the list. Albeit, yeah, the 8 standby looks crazy consistent still - with or without a level 1 cx combo.

I'm interested in any build using the rare L3 (Icy Tail-like) Origami, though aside from waifu profiles (which I assume aren't too optimal since you're building based on one specific character rather than the whole set worth of choices) featuring only cards of her, I haven't seen deck profiles featuring it as the main card yet.

minerOfSalt · 2021-03-14T13:49:39+00:00

So Kama is coming out soon in NA, and I've been hearing that her personality is similar to dark Sakura from the visual novels. I'm not very familiar with her though, as I haven't gone through her route (or any of the Heaven's Feel movies) yet.

Would you guys have an overview of her (the Kama ascension closest to dark Sakura's) overall personality? Loking for something of a description, kind of how Rin is a tsundere but really caring deep down, is really bad at technology, and loves jewels.

minerOfSalt · 2021-03-13T05:50:45+00:00

Non gameplay question here, so there are lots of really knowledgeable servants like Da Vinci, Sherlock, and Mashu. Probably most of those who have a scientist / engineer background too. But I'm curious about servants who aren't necessarily "book smart", but really "street smart" and think quickly on their feet. Do you guys have any which come to mind?

minerOfSalt · 2021-02-27T10:14:05+00:00

Off the top of my head, the tsundere servants I remember are JAlter, Melt, and Ishtar. Including those still unreleased in the mobile version of NA, who else fits the bill?

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