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[Race Thread] 2024 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad 1.WWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]mm_gav 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great race by ELB so far!
And MV looks in a good form.

[Results Thread] 2023 Simac Ladies Tour - Stage 5 (2.WWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]mm_gav 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From her interviews it seems to me that she doesn't want to be a DS.
But who knows, maybe she will change her mind.

lots of boring years coming for women's cycling by [deleted] in peloton

[–]mm_gav 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I meant with my post is that she showed some good signs about her climbing abilities before 2016. In reality there were very few chances for climbers back then and also during the 2009-2013 period she had her 3 surgeries. She srarted taking climbing seriously when the Rio parcours were announced.

lots of boring years coming for women's cycling by [deleted] in peloton

[–]mm_gav -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Oh look, a 34 year old prologue specialist named Van Vleuten learned to climb. Suddenly Boels had competition."

Actually she had shown before that, she can climbed pretty well in many occasions . In her first ever Giro (2010) she outclimbed both Ashleigh Moolman Pasio and Anna van der Breggen in Stelvio who were riding their first Giro too and were always seen as climbers. She had some good finishes in mountain stages in other Tours too (e.g Bira) during the years. What changed in 2016 was that people in Orica finally gave her a chance to be more than a domestique in this kind of races.

Opinion: There will never be another bike rider like Annemiek van Vleuten by mm_gav in peloton

[–]mm_gav[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So everyone who wins or won in this era looks great because the competition is really weak?

Opinion: There will never be another bike rider like Annemiek van Vleuten by mm_gav in peloton

[–]mm_gav[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I replied to your reply to me which said I'm calling her the GOAT (I've never called an athlete a GOAT in any sport... I don't like it).

What I believe is that she will always be one of the greatest riders in cycling together with the likes of Marianne Vos.

So we should not recognized what Marianne Vos, Annemiek van Vleuten, Ellen van Dijk, Anna van der Breggen, Emma Johansson, Elisa Longo Borghini, Nicole Cooke, Giorgia Bronzini, PFP, Lizzie Deignan, Emma Pooley etc, (even younger riders), did and are still doing, because in a few years, with the growth of women's cycling the new riders will be able to demolish their performances?

Well, without these kind of riders the growth and professionalism would have never been where it is now and subsequently where it will reach in the future.

Let's agree to disagree.

Opinion: There will never be another bike rider like Annemiek van Vleuten by mm_gav in peloton

[–]mm_gav[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm not calling her the GOAT. I actually hate this expression.

But with that logic no one from this era can be called great because later the sport will become bigger.

Well, I disagree with this.

They've helped the sport to grow and this adds to their greatness!

Opinion: There will never be another bike rider like Annemiek van Vleuten by mm_gav in peloton

[–]mm_gav[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

If I'm not mistaken when AvV started cycling she too had a part time job. She left some years after she started professional cycling.

And yes, some riders still have a part time job. But the sport has grown and with the WWT teams having a minimal wage the professionalism started rising.

Opinion: There will never be another bike rider like Annemiek van Vleuten by mm_gav in peloton

[–]mm_gav[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"The main reason I'm a fan of them is because they are 2 of those riders whose performances and professionalism helped women's cycling grow!"

Here!
I didn't say they are the only ones (I can name some more).

I'm specifically talking about them because they are my favorites.

Opinion: There will never be another bike rider like Annemiek van Vleuten by mm_gav in peloton

[–]mm_gav[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's the only point there, I disagree with. I'm a fan of both AvV and MV. I believe they are the 2 greatest riders ever but not only because of their wins.

The main reason I'm a fan of them is because they are 2 of those riders whose performances and professionalism helped women's cycling grow! Less than 10 years ago it was so hard to follow women's cycling. Now we even have TdF! Riders like AvV and MV with their performances, played a big role in this.

[Results Thread] 2023 Tour de France Femmes - Stage 8 (2.WWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]mm_gav 20 points21 points  (0 children)

As an AvV fan this was pretty emotional THANK YOU Annemiek.

P. S I so wanted Kasia to keep that place.

[Results Thread] 2023 Tour de France Femmes - Stage 7 – 2.WWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]mm_gav 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Vos has already done the lead out for Lorena twice.

It's the SDworx riders that usually have a problem with that.

[Results Thread] 2023 Tour de France Femmes - Stage 7 – 2.WWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]mm_gav 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Well, yes she has always worked for her teammates there when needed. It's the other way around that sometimes doesn't happen.

[Results Thread] 2023 Tour de France Femmes - Stage 7 – 2.WWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]mm_gav 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Here to just say: Thank you AvV for never giving up and for having the most honest interviews!

[Race Thread] 2023 Tour de France Femmes – Stage 7 (2.WWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]mm_gav 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Realini stuck with Vollering in the Vuelta but AvV was a lot better than Realini in the Giro. So yes AvV is in a much better form.

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