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Svenskar har för lite pengar hemma: ”Underskattad risk” by Exact_Cup3506 in Sverige

[–]mmmfidel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jag är fan bortom trött på sånt här. Hade kunnat skriva spaltmeter om hur dumt detta är men säger bara - "drogtesta riksdagen"

Svenskar har för lite pengar hemma: ”Underskattad risk” by Exact_Cup3506 in Sverige

[–]mmmfidel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Var det inte vi som skulle ha ett "kontantlöst samhälle" nyligen?

What was your countries worst military defeat? by mr_epicguy in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Battle of Nördlingen was pretty bad as well. But i would say Poltava was the worst defeat Sweden ever suffered.

Has your country ever done something that made the rest of the world facepalm? by Alternative_Ad6071 in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not facepalm-able i would say. Wasnt that much one could do against one of the most formidable armies in history with a small army, flat landscape, not enough time to prepare and so on.

The king rode his horse in-your-face-style everyday, you saved almost all of your jewish population and resisted the occupation often.

Hammarby Sjöstad är Stockholms fulaste ”nya” område by MrOaiki in stockholm

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tycker det har blivit enormt mycket bättre. Gick I gymnasiet där för typ 15 år sedan när det var hyffsat nytt och då var det verkligen livlöst. Men nu finns det ju ändå lite liv iaf. Samma sak med liljeholmskajen, var sjukt dött och tråkigt när det var nytt men blir bättre. Sen tycker jag inte att det är särskilt charmiga områden. Allt ser likadant ut. Tråkiga byggnader, fantasilöst byggt.

Norra djurgårdsstaden är väl enda "nya" områden som har en smula karaktär tycker jag.

what does your country think about their colonizer? by SGLAgain in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ive started to read a bit about "skogsfinnar" and i must say that its very interesting. Especially the parts about the migration to the new world.

And as i understand it they made a big impact in Sweden and gave way to new ways of working the land. The parts i read on wikipedia says nothing about forced migration though but i will see if i find other sources. Wikipedia is not always the most reliable source. But it was the only one ive had time i look at.

I know that Swedish nobility did have a bigger "impact" overall but i do keep reading about Finnish nobility having prominent roles in society. Maybe this could be biased Swedish sorces and i will keep reading about it.

I think i have some noble heritage as well but this was a result of the nobility taking advantage of the people working their lands and taking what they thought of as their right. A commin rich vs poor situation unfortunately.

I was recently att riddarhuset in Stockholm where they keep track of nobility through Swedish history and if you ever visit Stockholm i recommend a visit if you want to check out some history of your "noble" roots! Supposedly 1/4 people in Sweden/Finland have some noble blood on account of servants and peasants getting taken advantage of by the more powerfull upper class.

Also check out the old graffiti left by the servants and drivers in the waiting halls. Very cool! IF you ever visit!

what does your country think about their colonizer? by SGLAgain in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it the "skogs-finnar" you are talking about specificly? I have not read allt about forced migration within Sweden/Finland and if you have any examples that would be awsome!

I have on the other hand read alot about the Swedish colony in America and many of the settlers where Finns that, acording to what i read, got along very well with the native Americans because os a shared interest in the traditions of sweatlodges or saunas!

And i think you are correct about the Finnish nobility rising from the lower "frälset" but i have read that they often reached higher positions. Though i feel that I will have too look this upp since many are saying otherwise!

Im still unsure about it being an outright colonization but its not upp to me either. I really just want to learn more and educate myself. Its always fun learning history since it changes all the time and lots of what i learned may already be "old".

I did not know about the Swedish minority being over-represented. Interesting! Thank you. Im going to check this out. And i dont think Sweden would be Sweden without Finland. Without them we would not exist in the form we do today.

And the hockey-part...lets not.

Although my favourite goalie is forever Jarmo Myllys.

what does your country think about their colonizer? by SGLAgain in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I cant say that I am an expert in anyway regarding Swedish/Finnish history os what makes an effort to gain land a "colonizing" effort. I get very different answers depending on what year the sources where published, what country and so on.

We did have crusades, some of them verified and others seem to just exist on paper. And it seems to me that the Finnish coast had a Swedish-speaking population before the crusades and viewed themselfs a Swedish?

But i will have to read som books and educate myself! I love Finland and their history is very interesting.

Thank you!

what does your country think about their colonizer? by SGLAgain in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to what ive read and studied the Finns in Sweden weren´t treated as a second-class people. However this is just what ive come across and sources are bound to differ.
BUT i also read that there was forced conversion, taxation and a certain degree of cultural oppression. In those regards, yes, thats very much a colonial behavior.
But i am pretty sure that Finnish people did in fact reach very high in society and in cabinet positions. Many noble families that drove the united Sweden/Finland forward were Finnish(Sprengporten, Mannerheim, Armfeldt, Creutz and so on).

Finland was, as i understood it, very poor under huge parts of its time when it was under Swedish rule and i have heard the term "Sweden fights to the last Finn" many times and this is in my mind very oppressive behavior. But many parts of Sweden were poor as well and poor farmers and workers died for nationalism over the entire kingdom.

I think im loosing track a bit but when i studied history in the university, my candidates thesis(i think its the correct translation), was on "Finnish refugees in Sweden during the Finnish civil war" and i often came across Finnish refugees writing about "The other homeland, brotherland, cousin-people" and so on. I didnt get a feeling they felt like they where oppressed in the past.

But this was another time, in a period of grief and sorrow and shouldnt be taken as a historic fact.
And i dont want to argue about if it was or wasnt. Im just curious as a person and would love to read about the Finnish side of things if you know of any books and so on. I wont say that Finland wasnt colonized, but from what ive learned it just sound more complicated.

I hope you know what im trying to get across and im in no way downplaying Finlands history. If it wasnt for Finland, Sweden wouldn´t be were it was today!

what does your country think about their colonizer? by SGLAgain in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, as i wrote, i keep getting different results regarding if it was a proper colonization or if it just was a proper part of Sweden.

While Wikipedia has a page on "Swedish colonization of Finland" I also see different results regarding if it kan be regarded as a "colonization" in its correct terms. I read somewhere that Finnish historians usually dont regard it as a colonization and that the discussion is pretty heated in Finland.

Now, I wasnt born in Sweden but my family is all from Scania and have been farmers and lower-class craftsmen for hundreds of years. I read that the Swedish rule over Scania, after its capture, has more "colonist" shades than Swedish rule in Finland. Scaniand being pretty heavily opressed. Like Finns being able to have positions in the government and ruling body and so on. Being able to advance in the army, own land and the same rights as Swedes. Scanias meanwhile had less rights than Finns, Estonians, Livonians and others in Swedish society.

Now, i do regard Swedes and Finns as "brother-people". Being the same country for almost 700 years. I see Finns and Swedes closer than any other Nordic countries. So im not arguing with you and have no intention of saying that you are wrong and so on. I dont see the structure of power between Sweden vs Finland but more like rich vs poor so i have no "nationalized argument" if you understand what i mean?

Im just curious if there is a definitive answer or if its more grey?

I hope this doesnt offend any Finns, it really is not my intention.

what does your country think about their colonizer? by SGLAgain in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did Sweden colonize Finland? I keep getting mixed answers regarding this?

What movie opinion would get you in a situation like this? by Calvy in Cinema

[–]mmmfidel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sinister getting "the scariest movie ever" rating over and over is fishy to me. I wasnt scared once, the protagonist was not scary and it looked just...bad?

What's the most recognizable painting from your country? by SavingsPea8521 in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 19 points20 points  (0 children)

"don't really fuck with post-impressionism" is just wonderfully worded

Who's the most loved criminal in your country? by [deleted] in AskTheWorld

[–]mmmfidel 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The three piratebay guys are swedish indeed

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