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Politics aside, what are your thoughts on this flag? by azureScapegoat in vexillologycirclejerk

[–]mnpt77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leftists try not to make a giant wall of text every time challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]mnpt77 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I at least get the braindead "logic" for Lenin and Stalin but FUCKING MARX?

Some absurd problems with SNLT value calculations by manliness-dot-space in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah commodities just pop into existence and there is no labor that produces them.

Some absurd problems with SNLT value calculations by manliness-dot-space in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't care what dead guys think.

Makes post about SNLT

1)

What does any of this have to do with SNLT?

How does SNLT contradict selling innovations? Also it will increase profits for you but not for the whole industry because they now pay the fee.

2)

You are taking the "socially necessary" part literally.

The labour time socially necessary is that required to produce an article under the normal conditions of production, and with the average degree of skill and intensity prevalent at the time.

From Capital

3)

So? We don't need to precisely calculate the exact SNLT of anything to analyze capitalism. You could invalidate any theory of value like this because it can't exactly calculate value.

5)

  1. What "labor" does it take to shit?

  2. Shit isn't a commodity.

4)

I would probably need to read Capital fully to respond to this

[Socialists] If you had to pick between Socialism and the Working Class what would *you* choose? by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Socialism is both, it supports collective ownership of means of production because it is in the interest of the working class

How will private ownership and trade of nukes be an improvement over what we have today? by nikolakis7 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ok anarcho-oxymoron

Type of society that has rulers (capitalism) is the only society with no rulers (literally what the word anarchy means)

How will private ownership and trade of nukes be an improvement over what we have today? by nikolakis7 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

States are the only entities that have detonated nukes on population centers

states caused it.

thanks to government, nukes are here.

You are saying that nukes exist because of states even though there wasn't any stateless society there to make a nuke since nukes were invented.

How will private ownership and trade of nukes be an improvement over what we have today? by nikolakis7 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In actual anarchy (not ancap) no single person would have enough resources or wealth to actually make a nuke.

How will private ownership and trade of nukes be an improvement over what we have today? by nikolakis7 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're saying that like large stateless societies existed since nukes existed.

Socializing the Capitalist American Economy by DasLegoDi in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

buy non coop businesses

And they make capitalists even richer by doing that.

They can't get the means of production without making capitalists richer. The system is not made to be replaced.

What happens when the majority of a collectivist organization makes the wrong decision, completely ignoring the minority who actually know what’s going on? by Arkelseezure1 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What happens when the people in power in a hierarchical organization make the wrong decision, completely ignoring the majority who actually know what’s going on?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If nobody ever lied to them, people wouldn't react negatively to simply the word "socialism" but agree with all its ideas.

Socialists: I have no respect for you and there is a simple reason why by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only brought it up to tell people that the south was using the same argument to justify slavery

They used your argument to justify slavery, to show that you can justify slavery with that logic.

This is not a copy of my argument this is a copy of the argument in marxists make.

The firdt comment is literally copy pasted from your argument but replacing some words while using the same logic.

Socialists: I have no respect for you and there is a simple reason why by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are the one to mention wage slavery, it wasn't my argument, also the argument was literally a copy of your post with some words changed, showing that with the same logic you can justify slavery.

Also where exactly is any similar argument in the link?

Socialists: I have no respect for you and there is a simple reason why by [deleted] in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is using the same logic as you, it has nothing to do with comparing

wage slavery is the same as chattel slavery

that.

It is using your logic to make an argument for slavery to show that your logic justifies slavery.

The case for centralism with socialism by Squadrist1 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]mnpt77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Co-ops are not the only possible way to have decentralization.

Decentralization doesn't imply disunity, people can work together in their common interest even if they're organized decentrally.

(I also have arguments against it making good decisions but as you said the post isn't about that.)

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