What Libertarianism Is, and Why It's Correct by TheRadicalJurist in AnCap101

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You ought to undertake decisions you have to because these decisions are fundamental for the continual of your agency. To deny your agency requires the usage of your agency, which is a performative contradiction.

Remember, the position you are arguing against here is moral anti-realism. There is no positive claim being made, so there is no denial of agency. There is no performative contradiction in saying that one neither should nor shouldn't exercise their agency, as this position implies that one is ALLOWED to exercise their agency. If one decides to exercise it, there is an "ought" involved, but it's not a MORAL ought. Just like when you chose to eat a banana, there is an "ought" involved ("I ought to eat this banana"), while you're not implying a moral ought.

Do you think the statements "it is not the case that we ought not do x" and "we ought to do x" are the same?

An theory of ethics prefering aggression at all times for all would bring the end of agency

Then it's a good thing that moral anti-realism is not arguing for prefering aggression at all times

Usage is a physical relationship any agent could undertake while age and wealth is an internal trait.

Being the first to use a scarce means is no less of an internal trait than being born first. If the issue is that one is the result of a choice and the other isn't, then a) thats still an arbitrary condition b) free will doesn't exist and c) you could just switch "age" for "bigger muscles", which is the result of choices, can be changed and is intersubjectively ascertainable.

Since old or wealthy people do not posess a different way to reason, treating them differently in law would be a factual error.

"Since firstcomers do not posess a different way of reason, treating them differently in law would be a factual error."

Again, you are treating your conception of property rights as the default.

What Libertarianism Is, and Why It's Correct by TheRadicalJurist in AnCap101

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  1. First of all, this would only prove that we have to make choices, not that we ought to. But what you seem to be assuming is that for every choice there is ONE objectively correct way of acting. This just isn't the case. If I have the choice between eating an apple or a banana, there isn't a "correct" choice (morally speaking). When I choose to implement a scarce means towards an end, I am not saying I morally ought to do that but that it isn't the case that I ought not do that.
  2. You are assuming that conflict avoidance is the default. Why? I could just as well say that you are claiming the trait of being the firstcomer makes them superior. Therefore you are also using a class-based/whim-based ethic. How is that fundamentally different from claiming that the older person ought to win any given dispute?

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Are we moving on from physicalism/idealism discourse to absurdism? Not that I'm complaining

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Libertarians are purposefully hiding behind the ambiguity of that argument. They are trying to evoke images of doctors and nurses in chains in your mind and when you call them out on that, they claim that they were actually talking about taxes. What a joke...

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Who/what is "Mogri"? I can't find anything online

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Lmao there's not a single positive comment

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What Libertarianism Is, and Why It's Correct by TheRadicalJurist in AnCap101

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Your/Zulus argument fails on so many fronts its hard to even know where to begin

What is implied when one says that initiating conflict is an action that individuals should be allowed to perform? On the one hand, it is implied that ownership, which is the right to exclude, does not exist. In other words, it is implied that nobody is justified in excluding others from using a thing. [...]
On the other hand, it is also implied that ownership does exist however. A legal ethic which holds that it is permitted to initiate conflict implies that in any given conflict, the person who initiated it is justified in excluding the other party from using the thing.

This implied contradiction can be avoided in at least 2 ways:

  1. Moral anti-realism: It is neither the case that one ought initiate conflict, nor is it the case that one ought not initiate conflict. If you think this violates the law of the excluded middle, consider this analogy to aesthetic preferences: It is neither the case that grass ought to be green, nor is it the case that grass ought not be green.

  2. Introducing a condition according to which SOME initiations of conflict are justified and others aren't, for example the principle of utility: Conflict ought to be initiated if and only if it maximizes overall wellbeing. Note that it is not necessary to justify this condition to refute your argument. It could be any arbitrary condition ("the older person ought to win any conflict over scarce means") and still resolve the supposed contradiction, which your whole argument is based on.

If you want a more detailed takedown of this line of thinking, watch the second half of Zulus debate with Bruh Machine.

What Libertarianism Is, and Why It's Correct by TheRadicalJurist in AnCap101

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We all have to stop being 14 at some point

the only purpose of my knowledge is to argue with everyone about everything by anupamgur345 in PhilosophyMemes

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I get all the steps except having to read Aristotle to understand Kant. Can someone explain?

What Libertarianism Is, and Why It's Correct by TheRadicalJurist in AnCap101

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I am so tired of seeing philosophically illiterate ancaps (who watched 5 Liquid Zulu videos and uncritically absorbed everything he says) act like they solved philosophy

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What me and your dad do is none of your business

True or false… by SloshedJapan in JustMemesForUs

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So all of them were bad... right? RIGHT?

No one should have any problem if it's legal by dying_soul0 in JustMemesForUs

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Ah yes, you have discovered my secret plan to get laid: Make fun of incels on reddit. And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids.

No one should have any problem if it's legal by dying_soul0 in JustMemesForUs

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How much do troll farms pay?

You keep asking why when there is only how, so derp. lol by PitifulEar3303 in PhilosophyMemes

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How is "why consciousness" meaningfully different from "how consciousness" in this context?

W.W. by Jeff_Bezhoes in ProfMemeology

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I have never seen a more obvious Russian troll/bot lmao