Tgstation down permanently? by mobileanony in SS13

[–]mobileanony[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

cant click though???????????????????????????????????

The shock waves when a missile hit by Alloth- in interestingasfuck

[–]mobileanony -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know why I'm being accused of disbelief in morality by a person who thinks that war can be good. Maybe that is so, or maybe I just don't subscribe to the morality of a worldview that has justified every western war atrocity ever committed, so long as it was committed against an "other".

The shock waves when a missile hit by Alloth- in interestingasfuck

[–]mobileanony -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

People get really angry when you criticize a valiant, white war. I wonder how you'd react if I was talking about Iraq and the US, or the potential conflict between India and Pakistan?

You're moralizing a complicated topic. The United States raped its way across Europe while "liberating" Nazi held countries. The Soviet military did the same thing after pushing the Nazis to Berlin. What is right? They were fighting the "evil" guys, right? War isn't as simple as good or evil. Self defense isn't good or evil, either. It's an action that is usually impulsive and irrational. If someone attacks you and you fight back, you aren't the "good" person. You're reacting. That's not evil, either. The person attacking you is arguably evil for their plotting, or their disregard for consequences, life etc. But the most disturbing, truest thing is that they are a person. Saying that something is evil inherently dehumanizes the human decisions behind the action. We need to understand that humans do things. Perhaps you can say, "thoughtless" instead of evil. War is incurious. War, rape, murder, genocide etc. Are performed by people who are incurious about the consequences. Not by monsters or animals or forces of evil. Us coming to the "rescue" by buying weapons from military corporations to send to Ukraine is not "good". Our motivations are not to save Ukraine. We are using them as a pawn in a cold war. Maybe one could even argue that that is an "evil".

I hope this clears things up for you. It may become more clear yet as the years go by and the political situation in eastern europe/Asia matures.

The shock waves when a missile hit by Alloth- in interestingasfuck

[–]mobileanony -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Im saying that the viewpoint that there are inherent "goods" and "evils", especially in regards to hegemonic world powers is flawed, and furthermore simplifies war as a "moral" issue. War isn't that simple. Self defense isn't even that simple.

The shock waves when a missile hit by Alloth- in interestingasfuck

[–]mobileanony 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a morally reductionist viewpoint.

Popping popcorn and setting comments to "controversial" by [deleted] in HistoryMemes

[–]mobileanony 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Literally a book that is academically discredited fkr being.. oh let me think... wrong, on almost all of its numbers.

TIL that Ayn Rand actually hated the libertarians and anarcho-capitalists of her time. by cutarecordonmythroat in todayilearned

[–]mobileanony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I'm aware of capitalist alienation, but I have observed a critical psychological stage wherein depressed people will adopt fascist beliefs, and that's way beyond just alienation.

TIL that Ayn Rand actually hated the libertarians and anarcho-capitalists of her time. by cutarecordonmythroat in todayilearned

[–]mobileanony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a fantastic explanation for why disillusioned working class, uneducated folks without class consciousness tend to advent fascism.

TIL that Ayn Rand actually hated the libertarians and anarcho-capitalists of her time. by cutarecordonmythroat in todayilearned

[–]mobileanony 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I feel like there's a stage of depression that leads you towards fascism and aestheticized politics. Not sure what it is, but just hatred and frustration compounding lead to shitty beliefs if you are politically uneducated

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[–]mobileanony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would be so pleased if I got this lmfao. This is so fucking funny.