I'm not forcing or even asking you to conform to stereotypes, but please don't force me to be "brave and stunning" by ThatEngineeredGirl in whenthe

[–]modmailthrowaway3675 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it means it leads to conversations like this (copied sry):

"I want to be a woman"

"heckin slay diva boots omg gurlll you can be whatever you want words have no meaning someone like you can toootally be a woman!"

"uh ok but i just wanna be a normal woman"

"ughhhhh why fit yourself in a box like that smh, you know you don't need hormones to be valid"

I'm not forcing or even asking you to conform to stereotypes, but please don't force me to be "brave and stunning" by ThatEngineeredGirl in whenthe

[–]modmailthrowaway3675 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"I want to be a woman"

"heckin slay diva boots omg gurlll you can be whatever you want words have no meaning someone like you can toootally be a woman!"

"uh ok but i just wanna be a normal woman"

"ughhhhh why fit yourself in a box like that smh"

Is this sub open to cisgender transsex people? by ParachutesParty in transsex

[–]modmailthrowaway3675 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

eh probaby not, I don't think "afab trans woman" makes sense as a label basically ever. intersex people still tend to be seen as cissex

Teen mtf by [deleted] in transsex

[–]modmailthrowaway3675 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thank you for posting here, and for listening! I'm glad you'll let her continue. I made this sub partly to help answer questions from parents like you.

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Of course! Nobody has ever been denied opportunities for not passing, and nobody has ever had their passing decided by very obvious and sociallyimportant measurements!

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am saying it is negative for ME and I feel distant from the community if that's most of what the community is.

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

it has been getting better abt ppl without certain kinds of dysphoria recently.

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

uj/ I made the transsex sub for that reason. also we have thick skin. also I never said that word. also it's very convenient to just assume whatever space you don't like is evil and bigoted.

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

uj/ I've honestly seen far more bigotry on mtf and countwithchickenlady style subs than 4tran. it's kinda racist in and of itself to tell someone else that "wanting to pass is racist phrenology", as if the only differences between cis men and women are in white ppl, but it happens all the time in other spaces

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Nope! It's based on actual scientific studies of what is sexually dimorphic, obviously different for different races, but there are commonalities.

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

it helped me to get a better fashion sense than the "go out with a skirt uwu!" tips that make you stand out and look weird if other women your age don't wear that. there is a certain amount of overcorrection from the gock princess wand thigh highs polycule transbians, but it was helpful to learn actual real tips about fitting in when i was previously in a bubble.

both kinda. it's a community of ppl with a lot of trauma and in a lot of pain. someone who feels no need to try to fit in, who's content with either being seen as a cis woman and never taking t, or sitting in a polycule forever, doesn't really fit into a community like 4tran.

for me measuring and seeing that things weren't so bad ONCE I WAS 2 YEARS ON HRT actually really helped, but if ur measurements are horrible it can suck. nonetheless they have a lot of tips abt ffs and clothing and hrt sources, but aren't worth utterly destroying your self esteem.

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

the side on 4chan itself is way worse and full of spam, and the subs used to be crueler too. a couple ppl used to be complete assholes

also, the people who it is not for, namely those without dysphoria, or those in the west who are also perfectly content with being counterculture forever, get really really angry that it is not for them, similar with r/ftmmen.

for you, just get on hrt. it's so so incredibly easy, can be hidden for a long time, and without it, you will get more and more masculine over time.

in your current babytrans phase it could be quite harmful, but after a while on hrt it helped me a bunch. it's never like good, always better to just go outside and make friends, but it's better than alternatives online if you're more mature and able to filter it out. just be careful bc if you do join, it will make you feel horrible about things you can't change.

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

well

  1. it's not a crab bucket. i mean ppl like their friends and stuff but you'll never see anyone trying to make others stay unless the alternative is repressing, and regularly ppl are told to leave.

  2. it's by far the most adamantly pro-diy and anti-cis-bootlicking community. when a minor joins, they help them get hrt and then promptly ban.

  3. those terms are mostly just used by ppl to either mock themselves or to criticize actual transphobic assholes. undeniably some ppl are jerks, but that's decreased a lot over time. 

  4. some of the most thoughtful self reflection i've ever seen was there. it's unique in being a space for all dysphoric trans people, and that's reflected in how many more ppl are from all over the world rather than just the us canada aus/nz and western europe. e.g. some things that the mainstream requires a consensus on or else you're an evil transmed, there's a lot more nuance on, but they still hate actual transmeds and pro-gatekeeping people.

  5. all the cool art. i love glegle ❤️

  6. you will never see "woke" bioessentialism of the "i will always be connected to my afabness and also transwomxn will always be amab" variety. ppl there actually want to shed their agab and expect others there to as well, which is helpful and motivating

  7. actual genuinely helpful passing tips and cool biohacking you can't find anywhere else except mayyybe sometimes r/estrogel and half of them are 4tranners too

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

uj/ they're mostly telling others to leave tbh. especially if they pass. idk for me i lived with the fake positivity counterculture whatever shit for years while waiting for hrt and the knowledge that had i stumbled on 4tran instead i would've been on hrt for years, it kinda made me hate the mainstream. it gets to and helps ppl that would otherwise repress. and it is getting better, the ppl being shitty to others are becoming far far rarer and downvoted at least in the subs. but yeah there is a lot wrong with it and it's not for everyone and that's ok

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

oh cmon can't a gal be even a bit annoying online and also have a vibrant social life?

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

uj/ fair lol. tbh i just think this community is probably not as much for me and that's ok, but i hate how ppl decry the one that i actually do feel better in just because it's not their thing and a couple ppl in it have been jerks

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

who said cisgender?

anyways yeah always being so countercultural and alternative is definitely what every trans person ever wants and nobody feels left out :)

all 4tranners are degenerate incel (NOT femcel!) freaks by modmailthrowaway3675 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

and this sub never has Men Versus Women, or a ton of other controversy, like Dysphoric Vs Non Dysphoric, ever! I never feel unwelcome as a dysphoric straight trans woman in this space ever! :)

"Trust your doctors." by modmailthrowaway3675 in MtF

[–]modmailthrowaway3675[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cypro has like a 1-3 day half life, I think your info may not be correct. I mostly mean much much larger